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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 6:19:36 PM   
MrRogers



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Now shes going to go back and edit her posts so it makes your statement irrelavent. You have to "quote" her so she can't change what she said....yes.. it's that bad.


lol. yeah, its like everytime she posts theres a subliminal message to the reader just asking for a flame.


She just won't admit when shes wrong..No intergrity...all she does is edit her posts to reflect the corrections that other people have made on her staments..

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 8:55:06 PM   
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Ahh it looks fast, but it really isnt fast yet. Like i said i have big plans for it. I might try and see if i can get more cubes than your LS7. I am kinda thinking of shooting for a 481 or 454, gotta see exactly what the cost would be. It is probably going to be a lot and scare me away to something smaller like a 402 or 408. I dont know, i would actually kinda like to save some money and see if i could buy a 07 ZO6 towards the end of this year. But i have so much stuff i have to do first before i could, and i still dont even know if i could. If i am able to, i will definately get me the blue one or perhaps the silver, both are awesome colors. It is a real shame that they dont make a white one though, not since 01 anyway. That would be my top choice.

I was thinking about it the other dat Mr.Rogers and do you know what the crazy thing is about your new car. I could do full-bolt-ons, heads, cam, and intake and i would finally get to your rwhp number and still lose. Almost maxing my car out N/A, other than nitrous. That is just absolutely astounding, and no car has ever sounded as good as a Vette, with a good size cam, true duals, off-road X-pipe, and an awesome cat-back. Not the butterfly valves, but something like a Borla Stingers or Corsa. If I am able to go for a ZO6 towards the end of this year, do you think you could hook me up with someone to get one from, tall order i know, but jsut wondering.

Oh and lastly i cannot believe you are only 27. You are 1 year older than I am and have an awesome vehicle. Hope I can get mine while im still only 26.


Apply yourself and lose all conventional thinking and you will be surprised at what you can accomplish. Go against the grain my friend...


the best possible advice to give someone! the way i look at life is that if i dont accomplish something new every day, that day was wasted. when i don't have anything exponentially cool to do, i turn to projects...like...say...making a carbon fiber sub box in my garage...
aside from the fact that im still strapped to the grain via college, id consider myself more accomplished in life at 19 than most 30yr-olds out there

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 9:37:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sleeper05

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ORIGINAL: MrRogers


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Ahh it looks fast, but it really isnt fast yet. Like i said i have big plans for it. I might try and see if i can get more cubes than your LS7. I am kinda thinking of shooting for a 481 or 454, gotta see exactly what the cost would be. It is probably going to be a lot and scare me away to something smaller like a 402 or 408. I dont know, i would actually kinda like to save some money and see if i could buy a 07 ZO6 towards the end of this year. But i have so much stuff i have to do first before i could, and i still dont even know if i could. If i am able to, i will definately get me the blue one or perhaps the silver, both are awesome colors. It is a real shame that they dont make a white one though, not since 01 anyway. That would be my top choice.

I was thinking about it the other dat Mr.Rogers and do you know what the crazy thing is about your new car. I could do full-bolt-ons, heads, cam, and intake and i would finally get to your rwhp number and still lose. Almost maxing my car out N/A, other than nitrous. That is just absolutely astounding, and no car has ever sounded as good as a Vette, with a good size cam, true duals, off-road X-pipe, and an awesome cat-back. Not the butterfly valves, but something like a Borla Stingers or Corsa. If I am able to go for a ZO6 towards the end of this year, do you think you could hook me up with someone to get one from, tall order i know, but jsut wondering.

Oh and lastly i cannot believe you are only 27. You are 1 year older than I am and have an awesome vehicle. Hope I can get mine while im still only 26.


Apply yourself and lose all conventional thinking and you will be surprised at what you can accomplish. Go against the grain my friend...


the best possible advice to give someone! the way i look at life is that if i dont accomplish something new every day, that day was wasted. when i don't have anything exponentially cool to do, i turn to projects...like...say...making a carbon fiber sub box in my garage...
aside from the fact that im still strapped to the grain via college, id consider myself more accomplished in life at 19 than most 30yr-olds out there
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< Message edited by MrRogers -- 7/14/2006 9:39:45 PM >


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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 9:40:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRogers

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ORIGINAL: Sleeper05

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ORIGINAL: MrRogers


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ORIGINAL: Pewterwssicc

Ahh it looks fast, but it really isnt fast yet. Like i said i have big plans for it. I might try and see if i can get more cubes than your LS7. I am kinda thinking of shooting for a 481 or 454, gotta see exactly what the cost would be. It is probably going to be a lot and scare me away to something smaller like a 402 or 408. I dont know, i would actually kinda like to save some money and see if i could buy a 07 ZO6 towards the end of this year. But i have so much stuff i have to do first before i could, and i still dont even know if i could. If i am able to, i will definately get me the blue one or perhaps the silver, both are awesome colors. It is a real shame that they dont make a white one though, not since 01 anyway. That would be my top choice.

I was thinking about it the other dat Mr.Rogers and do you know what the crazy thing is about your new car. I could do full-bolt-ons, heads, cam, and intake and i would finally get to your rwhp number and still lose. Almost maxing my car out N/A, other than nitrous. That is just absolutely astounding, and no car has ever sounded as good as a Vette, with a good size cam, true duals, off-road X-pipe, and an awesome cat-back. Not the butterfly valves, but something like a Borla Stingers or Corsa. If I am able to go for a ZO6 towards the end of this year, do you think you could hook me up with someone to get one from, tall order i know, but jsut wondering.

Oh and lastly i cannot believe you are only 27. You are 1 year older than I am and have an awesome vehicle. Hope I can get mine while im still only 26.


Apply yourself and lose all conventional thinking and you will be surprised at what you can accomplish. Go against the grain my friend...


the best possible advice to give someone! the way i look at life is that if i dont accomplish something new every day, that day was wasted. when i don't have anything exponentially cool to do, i turn to projects...like...say...making a carbon fiber sub box in my garage...
aside from the fact that im still strapped to the grain via college, id consider myself more accomplished in life at 19 than most 30yr-olds out there










+1

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you can't mix oil and water, only chuck norris can do that.



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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 10:26:38 PM   
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It's a forced induction motor vs an n/a motor...generally you won't see the same results. Of course, you generally won't see 100rwhp with a cam, or cam(s) swap, in a Cobra motor like you can in an LSx motor.

They're not valuable cars....they might as well do what they want with them. This isn't even GM's top of the line Corvette...well, currently it is, but give it a couple years.

Forced induction is just like adding cubic inches to a given engine. I displaces more air/fuel under boost. My 02 GT with it's 2V 281 ci engine can never make 456 to the wheels normally asperated. But under the 281 2V engine dynamics, it would take 524 CI to make 430 rwhp based on the stock quoten of 230 rwhp for 281ci. If you divide 281 into 230, you get 1.22. That is the variable. If you want this design to make 430 you have to mulitply 1.22 x 430 and you get 524 ci. With this particular engine's internal design, it would take 524ci to achieve 430 hp to the wheels, normally asperated. Of course you would need larger injectors, Maf etc to make this all work together.

Can you see what I am eluding to?


i kinda see what your saying. in order to make 430 rwhp while keeping everything flowing like a regular 281 2v you would need 524CI.that is one ****ed up idea that actually works. since there are 2vs making 430 rwhp on the motor. and i don't beleive the numbers your car makes. it should make more, i saw an 01 or 02 roush make 390 rwhp at 10 PSI non-intercooled at a car show, and it was really hot outside, he claimed everything was stock except the supercharger system and exhaust. it was a vortech SQ as well

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/14/2006 10:29:08 PM   
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ok I havent been reading all of this bs but I have one question/ statment. HOW the HELL does adding boost add to your displacement. does it magically make your engine bigger?? NO it does not!! your just forcing air into it!!! Air + fuel = HP Air + Air does not make displacement bigger!!!!! if I port my heads.. I am adding air does that mean I am adding displacement too.


I see what your talking about. No. The only way you can add displacement is by boring out the walls. You can also shave down the head surface and that will change displacement some what. Flat top and domed pistons will do something as well.


that adds compression. hi detonation, nice to meet ya

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/21/2006 5:54:09 PM   
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I did alot of research before i did any upgrades to my 2003 mach 1 mustang. i decided on a procharger. ive never regrated it. you cant drive a big block around all day. you always have the power even when you dont want it. with a blown setup you got it when you want it. i have beat up on plenty of big blocks that put twice the money in their cars (chevy and fords). so i would have to say blown is better.

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/21/2006 6:06:47 PM   
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I did alot of research before i did any upgrades to my 2003 mach 1 mustang. i decided on a procharger. ive never regrated it. you cant drive a big block around all day. you always have the power even when you dont want it. with a blown setup you got it when you want it. i have beat up on plenty of big blocks that put twice the money in their cars (chevy and fords). so i would have to say blown is better.


A newbie looking through the archives and making their first post on this thread....smells funny..someone check the IP on this douche..N/A small block gets my vote.

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/21/2006 6:41:13 PM   
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I did alot of research before i did any upgrades to my 2003 mach 1 mustang. i decided on a procharger. ive never regrated it. you cant drive a big block around all day. you always have the power even when you dont want it. with a blown setup you got it when you want it. i have beat up on plenty of big blocks that put twice the money in their cars (chevy and fords). so i would have to say blown is better.


How many big blocks have been stock in sports cars in the last 20 years? I'll give you the answer, NONE!!! Did you install a flux capaciter in your Mach and going back in time to beat up on some big block muscle cars.

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/21/2006 6:45:16 PM   
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I did alot of research before i did any upgrades to my 2003 mach 1 mustang. i decided on a procharger. ive never regrated it. you cant drive a big block around all day. you always have the power even when you dont want it. with a blown setup you got it when you want it. i have beat up on plenty of big blocks that put twice the money in their cars (chevy and fords). so i would have to say blown is better.


How many big blocks have been stock in sports cars in the last 20 years? I'll give you the answer, NONE!!! Did you install a flux capaciter in your Mach and going back in time to beat up on some big block muscle cars.


LOL. Hes delusional!!! The technology in the big block engines of yesterday are not up to par with the technology of today. If GM or Ford were to design a big block nowadays it would be bad ass.

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 7/23/2006 5:55:57 PM   
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i never said they were stock cars. they were all at the tulsa drags. just because im a newbi to this site does'nt mean i don't know what a big block

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 4/28/2007 7:06:32 AM   
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It's late and i'm bored so I started digging into the forums and stumbled upon this classic...


Hey its been over 8 months since this legendary thread was started. I don't want to jump back into the argument, I wanna know what's different about your cars since this one was started..Any new cars? Any new mods..tunes etc...

-Mr Rogers.




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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 4/28/2007 9:44:36 AM   
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Modded my STi to stage 2.5 (meth injection included), sold my Mustang, bought a Z06.  That about covers it.

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RE: N/A big block vs. a blown small block; which is bet... - 4/29/2007 2:59:33 AM   
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To each there own. Your going to have guys that bleed blue and your going to have guys always side with GM. I say be thankful that we still have a choice. The way things are looking mustangs and vettes might dissapear. Hasn't ford mentioned that they will be bringing back the little hurricane. Ford will eventually make a big block.

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