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Old 06-27-2006, 03:54 PM   #1
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Does anyone have any documentation on WHP for different CAI'S I have a mac and I am not happy with it I have a slight bog on takeoff and parkway entrance form a roll. I was either thinking about the Demolet or the C & L. Any response would be helpful.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:12 PM   #2
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no docs but I have a one from S&b that is a molded plastic tube. I am not happy with it because it does not seal off the hot air from the engine compartment and the tube itself gets really hot, probally ruining any gain. It cost 200 so I got what I paid for.

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Old 06-27-2006, 04:25 PM   #3
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So far, it is generally agreed that the C&L and TI units show the best gains.
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Old 06-27-2006, 04:59 PM   #4
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Thanks I was leaning that way. I was thinking of switching sides but after seeing what your wheels did wtih the TC I may just go in that direction.
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:09 PM   #5
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Whats your favorite type of pizza?
jk...but people that have cai will typically lean towards the one they own. The c&l cai is supposed to be one of the best though.
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:11 PM   #6
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Actually they are not all created equal. For example, the AEM was dyno'd to show no gain over the stock airbox. I put up a post with a link to Justins dyno of all of them. I will see if I can find it.
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:11 PM   #7
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i would ask lx200 he seams to have all the answers regarding CAI's and tuners. i had the AFE till the sc install and was happy with it. the tuners is a must no matter what CAI you have.
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Old 06-27-2006, 05:14 PM   #8
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i would ask lx200 he seams to have all the answers regarding CAI's and tuners. i had the AFE till the sc install and was happy with it. the tuners is a must no matter what CAI you have.
I had the AFE before I got a dyno tune and was happy with it as well. Actually, LX200 and a bunch of us sorted out our differences in another thread, I think it is all good now. No name calling or anything, just good constructive debate. See what happens when you build a new house Tom, you miss out on all the internet fun! ROFL.
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Old 06-27-2006, 06:21 PM   #9
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oh ok
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Old 06-27-2006, 07:21 PM   #10
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One question I have always wondered is this.... how much of the gain from a CAI comes form the fact that the air is marginally cooler, and how much comes from the fact that the large pleated filter has much greater surface area, and therefore much lower pressure drop, so more air can flow into the engine while the intake valve is open.... Both temperature and massflow make a difference, and it seems temperature would really be a small difference...

if you compare how many air molecules are in air at one temp vs. another, you have to use a themodynamic temperature scale like Rankine. So if the air under the hood was normally 110 degrees, but the cold air unit delivered it at 15 degrees cooler, then the gain in air molecules would be

In Rankine, 110 F = 570 and 95 F = 555, so, you would expect 570/555 increase in O2 molecules or a 2.7% increase in O2 molecules. Dunno... this can't be it, right? Even if the CAI causes a 30 degree drop, you are looking at a 5.5% increase. If all those molecules were completely turned into a HP advantage, you would expect an increase of about 5 HP at 15 degree advantage, and 10 HP at 30 degrees advantage, at the flywheel.

ANYBODY know how much these units ACTUALLY cut the temperature??? Especially the C&L which has a metal duct running to the throttle body... I imagine this must work well as a heat exchanger!

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