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Don't buy the AEM one. How does that sound?
I have C&L on the way. I fell for the RPMoutlet.com marketing when I was a mustang neophyte, I am now paying for my sins. When I paid for my SCT/C&L over the phone @ Evolution Performance, the guy laughed when I told him I had been suckered in for the AEM/DIablo combo. I said "yeah I figured they were all the same when I first had the car", he said that I wasn't the first making this upgrade.
Posts: 148
Joined: 4/30/2006 From: Atlanta Status: offline
In college, I laughed at all engineers, all of our degrees said "Georgia Tech" and we all got good jobs, I just got to have fun in school. Poor fellas.
man i stop to build a house and all this happens. lx200 i think you are showing good restraint. at least at a glance. keep up the good work . all this stuff is way to over my head thats why id rather pay 400 bucks for a dyno tune than 30,000 bucks for a college education!
< Message edited by afixer -- 6/28/2006 9:00:40 PM >
Afixer... ah heck, I just deleted all my posts. There is no sense having a battle of wits with and unarmed man. I really just have to let this crap roll off my back.
Ohhh.... I am starting to get the supercharger bug...... I can feel it starting....... ehhhhh.... ahhhh... must fight.....
< Message edited by LX200 -- 6/28/2006 8:52:12 PM >
yeah LX I thought you were doing pretty good too, I was impressed. This is not where my knowledge lies though so I have NO clue which one of you were right. I could basically understand what you were both saying but not know which one of you were on the right track. BUT since you were so marvelously restrained I give LX the win. LMAO Sorry KnotBand not slighting you one bit, but LX held his massive temper honorably. Just when I though he was gonna blow...he didn't. LOL
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I'm not having fun anymore, cya later on. Take care.
LOL, well after I've spent 12 hours in the hot sun it's ineitable that my wife will be frisky. Me on the other hand... hard to say, but then again I got a few years on ya...no offense
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frisky what the heck is frisky after 12 hours in the hot sun frisky is the last thing on my mind!
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I'm not having fun anymore, cya later on. Take care.
I bet! That looks like a nice remodel you got going. Anything special planned for the garage? I ask because I'm planning on doing a second garage at my house in 2 or 3 years.
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I'm not having fun anymore, cya later on. Take care.
Sounds nice. Plenty of room pamper to hunny in there. Best of luck with it. Since mine is a ways off I don't know really what I'm gonna do, but it will be good space for a future project car.
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I'm not having fun anymore, cya later on. Take care.
Afixer... ah heck, I just deleted all my posts. There is no sense having a battle of wits with and unarmed man. I really just have to let this crap roll off my back.
Ohhh.... I am starting to get the supercharger bug...... I can feel it starting....... ehhhhh.... ahhhh... must fight.....
You just mean you had no rebuttal....hell, it was obvious you were running out of stuff when i had to keep trying to refresh your memory about the open and closed loop thermodynaic conditions.......oh yea, and the fact that you had to resort to saying you wouldn't drive over any bridges in my area???? WTF?? hahaha.....bridges, I am still laughing at that one.
OK Fellas I started this debacle all I wanted to know is if anyone had the Demolet and C&L dynoed and which one showed better gains if any. I have a Mac and don't like it. Kudos to all the einsteins on the Forum.
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the first time around, I took Goliath's approach and just was interested in having fun...hell, for one semester, all I did was party at night. I didn't even go to a single class after about half way through.
second....about that time in my life, i could have taught thermo about as good as you could today.
So, 1. You can't spell (I enjoyed your variations on fahrenheit... how does one attain an engineering degree and not know how to spell this?)
2. You use poor grammar. Maybe if you had studied the first four years you were in college, you could have mastered some basics.
3. You think mechanical engineers are never involved in bridge design (ya, right, civil engineers do them all)
4. You think engine power is described by the equation work = m*Cp*dT (I have tears in my eyes on this one).... you just described the amount of energy it take to warm air
5. By the above equation, you think all the work an engine does is transferred to heating the "air" in the cylinder, thereby leaving no work to be done on the piston and delivered to the flywheel (essentially turning a car into an "air" heater)
6. You think you can look at the rise in temperature of the air in the cylinder, EVEN THOUGH there is no air left after the combustion. Wow, further support for your stunning theory of engine operation.
7. You think adding 30% more oxygen molecules to a cylinder will result in an insignificant increase in power, thereby proving superchargers don't really work (brilliant). You derived this conclusion in masterful fashion using your theory of "Work = (mass flow of air) * (thermal capcity of air) (change in temperature of the air). " BY THE WAY, what is thermal "capcity"? Capacity maybe?
8. You don't understand the fundamental difference between the Fahrenheit and Rankine temperature scales (first week in thermo class stuff). In fact, you can't even spell fahrenheit. Lets review YOUR classic explaination of why my density calculation is wrong, in it you say
"Rankine is the same units as Farenheight, as so say that one degree change in Rankine is the same as one degree change in degrees F, even though the Rankine numbers are much higher, but that is becuase they are measured with a different scale".
OK, so WTF were you trying to say? Fahrenheit and Rankine are different temperature scales? Ya, any 6th grader knows this (and can spell both of them as well). So? What's you point exactly? The reason Rankine exists is so you can use it in equations of state... some most 6th graders DON'T know, or you either. HOW WAS MY USE OF A RANKINE TEMPERATURE RATIO INCORRECT FOR DETERMINING DENSITY CHANGE IN AIR? HUH GENIUS? WELL? Don't skirt this one, THIS WAS YOUR ORIGINAL CONTENTION. Explain to everyone here how my analysis was wrong, and how using Rankine in this equation was wrong. You stated in your first brain fart message...
"ok, here is the deal.....your temperature analysis, well.....not right"
So, now go ahead. Refute what I said with a logical explaination that can actually be understood, and quote internet references to refute my density calculation. Then I'll site multiple internet sources to refute any bullcrap you spew. You clueless retard. IF YOU CAN'T DO THIS, YOU'LL BE EXPOSED TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS AS A BIG BAG OF CRAP. You've been served.
9. You don't understand how to use an equation of state, such as ideal gas law to determine density changes
10. You don't realize that moles are used by engineers of all types to do many things (but... you aren't really an engineer, are you)
11. You think you can analyze an internal combustion engine by looking at air temperature rise and ignore everything else like combustion, heat loss, cooling, compression of intake gas, removal of exhaust gas, etc. Damn, you're good!!!
12. You spent four years flunking out of college because you were too busy drinking. You couldn't even get this right. It took you four years to realize you're a retard. It only took the people on this board a few hours to figure that out.
So to summarize, go ahead, show everybody here I'm wrong. Show everybody you know way more thermo than me..... do the following
1. Answer question 8 above, disproving that the change of density of air can be calculated by taking a ratio of the Rankine temperatures of the two conditions. While you're at it, explain to everybody here on the forum why the Rankine temperature scale was created if it's just Fahrenheit with "bigger numbers".
2. Explain, with equations and from first principles, how the power created by an engine is described by the equation Work = (mass flow of air) * (thermal capcity of air) (change in temperature of the air). Then, explain how if the work produced by this equation describes the work done by an engine, HOW IS THERE ANY WORK LEFT TO TRANSFER TO THE PISTON. YOUR EQUATION SAYS THE WORK IS EQUAL TO THE RISE IN TEMPERATURE OF THE AIR. WHAT AIR? WHAT TEMPERATURE RISE? AND WHAT'S LEFT FOR THE ENGINE? HAHAHAAHAHAH. You are such a retard.
Becuase we can always use a good laugh at lunch, I printed this thread down and showed it to a group of engineers. People almost choked on their lunches. They had tears in their eyes. Included in the bunch was a PhD thermodynamicist and a PhD ME... as well a 5 MS level engineers. So hey, at the end of the day, I have to say thanks, you've really provided some excellent comic relief. One guy suggested we should print the thread down, and send it to the head of the ME department where you "graduated". We should ask him WTF they are doing down there, and why they admit people who flunked out of college previously. Must be a real top flight department.
Now don't forget... everybody will be watching.... answer questions 1 and 2 above.... or just admit you're a make believe engineer with a C average from a crap school.
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