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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/25/2006 6:48:29 PM   
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The original thread starter did not mention anything except stripes and Gt 350 markings. Any 65-66 fastback could add those cheap markings and make it look like either an original or a full blown clone. That is just Mustang rice IMO.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/25/2006 6:52:21 PM   
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mustang burgers and rice! yum!!!!!

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/25/2006 10:11:25 PM   
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I think this thred has to do with clone or not. I have to say that some day I hope to own a well done shelby clone. I might even do it. Right now I am doing a '65 C code to a GT A code and enjoying puttin on all the "STUFF"!!!!!
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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/25/2006 10:59:57 PM   
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The original thread starter did not mention anything except stripes and Gt 350 markings. Any 65-66 fastback could add those cheap markings and make it look like either an original or a full blown clone. That is just Mustang rice IMO.

Mustang rice for the win!

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/25/2006 11:06:34 PM   
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I dont mind taking a plain coupe and making it look cooler. For example, i like the California special mustangs. Im about to buy a 68, and make it look like a C/S. Does it make it one? NO, but i like the looks. IT's MY CAR.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 2:14:42 AM   
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I dont mind taking a plain coupe and making it look cooler. For example, i like the California special mustangs. Im about to buy a 68, and make it look like a C/S. Does it make it one? NO, but i like the looks. IT'S MY CAR.


the most important thing to consider on any build.

but flipside of that coin, if you are looking to build it for a profit, you must take into consideration what the market is going for and your cost vs profit.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 2:44:47 AM   
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Well IF I were to ever have a limited built mega dollar rare auto. I really think I would want a clone also. Mainly so I could actually drive it and have some fun without worries of having it wrecked, adding miles, or anything that will make it depreciate but actually using and enjoying it.
I guess my biggest problem with some of the replies is It's someone elses car and if they are proud of it then great let them be proud. Weather it be riced or what ever term someone wants to use. The only problem I see is when someone tries to decive another to make a profit. If someone wants to be a poser they'll be a poser big deal! Most all of us have some amount of car enthusiasm. And most all are proud of what we have. If the few that were lucky enough to get the car of their dreams and were at the right time and place to afford said car, great! You were lucky or whatever. For the rest of us we'll either drive what we have or we'll make it 'appear' to be our dream car. I didn't want a matching numbers car, I wanted a car that I could modernize into the car we want.
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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 2:52:33 AM   
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very well said SDI. you want to get technical, anyone who does anything to a car to make it anything but stock, would technically be "ricing it out".

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 2:54:36 AM   
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im building a clone/restomod i like the look of a clone even though its not real it just looks cool. how many "r"model shelby are for sale today? if u cant buy one make one thats what shelby had to do!

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 9:47:13 AM   
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R model sold at auction: $900,000. Go for the KO with the clone

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 1:41:19 PM   
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I don't really see the point in doing that. Fake is fake no matter how you spell it.



Let's analyze this for a moment.

Shelby didn't build the Mustangs he started with...Ford did.
Shelby added body components
Shelby changed the suspension geometry
Shelby added a few other performance and aesthetic enhancements.

If we start with a Mustang built by Ford (not a faked one)
Add the same body components that Shelby did (reproductions)
Make the same suspension geometry changes that Shelby did
Add all the other performance and aesthetic enhancements that shelby did...

How is that faked? We're not talking a New York street-vendor-Rolex special, here. We are talking the real thing...just not made by Shelby.

If you want to get technical, there really isn't a Shelby after 1968. Ford faked some for '69-'70. Shelby didn't have much to do with those years.

Edit - Honestly, the faking only takes place at shows or sales if the owner attempts to pass the vehicle off as authentic (i.e. competed by Shelby Automotive). That would be dishonest and unethical.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 2:25:34 PM   
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Well said 67Rally. I totally agree.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 3:03:46 PM   
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yeah, same with saleen, rousch, cervini.



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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 5:40:52 PM   
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I have NO problem with clones! Clones are OK in my book, with two caveats:

1) Don't try to pass it off as "real" - no Shelby ID plates allowed!
2) Make sure it has the performance to back the look! Honduhboy kill stories are built on 6-cyl clones!

IMHO, clones and fakes are two completely different animals. A clone only becomes a FAKE when the owner tries to pass it off as real!

BTW, my previous car to the saleen WAS a GT350 Clone, and it would run circles around most "real" Shelby's on the street, track or show field... A Shelby is nothing magic - just a special ID number on a regular Mustang body. Build one today, and you have 40 years worth or better parts / technology available, plus you can drive it and race it anywhere without fear of destroying something "valuable".

Oh, and I sold it for an obscene amount of money...




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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 5:44:34 PM   
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Hey I think "clones" or just a mustang that has similar markings is cool, as long as you dont tell people its a real shelby.


I think just the opposite. NO shame in owning a clone. The shame comes in trying to pass it off as real when it's not... Any knowlegable enthusiast will bust you, big time.

Check the stripes closely:

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 5:49:14 PM   
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Hey I think "clones" or just a mustang that has similar markings is cool, as long as you dont tell people its a real shelby.


I think just the opposite. NO shame in owning a clone. The shame comes in trying to pass it off as real when it's not... Any knowlegable enthusiast will bust you, big time.

Check the stripes closely:



now, that is a VERY respectable thing to do. has to be the best thing i have ever seen done. a friend of mine has a gt350 clone, but his doesn't say clone. i think that's just as cool!

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 6:18:06 PM   
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I find it amazing you guys have taken the original posters query to these heights. He was asking about Shelby stripes and 350 GT Makings. Not a clone in actualilty with all the other GT Shelby mods that were done back then. By only adding the stripes and the 350 GT marking, does not even make it a clone. It just makes it a fake. And therefore the Ricer comment I made. If you want a real clone, then add all the parts to make it so. Stickers ain't gonna do it.

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 9:45:17 PM   
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Hold on a second, Soaring,

Ricer? First of all, that is a derogatory and offensive remark. I know that it is all acceptable here and all, but there are many others that are equally offensive to certain ethnicities and not allowed here.

Secondly, you should post a checklist that would put a car into that category. As far as I am concerned, classic mustangs don't come near to that status unless one applies Yuban exhaust, plastic ground effects, 53" rotors and 98" chrome rims (ok, I am exaggerating, but you get the point)...sorta like the crapenors.

Applying graphics, badging, and other aesthetic upgrades is nothing new and can be executed tastefully. Adding a Neuspeed decal kit...not good. Get it?

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 10:33:01 PM   
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I agree it takes a heck of a lot more then additional stripes (normal stripes lol) to be consitered 'Riced' in my book!
I don't have direct fine line that has to be crossed to become 'riced'. I think it depends car to car. Now take a Honda Civic put front bumpercover, rear deck fin, side body panels and it riced in almost every body's book, Now take a 66 Mustang put a front bumpercover, rear deck fin, and side body panels and it becomes one of the most sought after 66 Mustang 'R' model Shelby! To me it all depends on if it's done in class and I know that is subjective to many different opinions.
I'm am about to drop the hammer on a Saleen Supercharger Extreem (480 hp/500ft lbs) for our 06 Mustang convertible now does this make me a fake, a poser, a none poser (it'll be a sleeper because it will not have saleen S/C anywhere on the car) Or does it jst make me someone that likes our car and want to make it a little more uniquie, as in OURS. 05SDI,

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RE: But it's not a Shelby!!!? - 6/26/2006 10:54:17 PM   
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Rice is defined as, "more show than go". That's the line. So just adding Shelby decals=Rice

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