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Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:04:14 PM   
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So what do I do now? I found a 351w for $200 but it'll probably need rebuilt before I put it in the car considering it's got 110,000 miles on it. Another friend of mine I just talked to wants me to keep the 289 and just stroke it to 347 but IDK what that'll cost me or any of the details on it. My cousin wants me to just stick with the 289. What do I do?

Pics of the 351 should be coming up tomorrow

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:17:59 PM   
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If you can get a winsor for 200 I would grab it and keep you options open. You can always resell the winsor later and make money on that deal.

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:24:31 PM   
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If you can get a winsor for 200 I would grab it and keep you options open. You can always resell the winsor later and make money on that deal.

The guy is also selling an 8" & 9" rearend for $140 ea. as well as a C4 for $90. Does anyone on MF want them? There in good shape off of a '76 Torino

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:24:33 PM   
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The 289 is also a Windsor engine. It depends on your deep pockets. If it were mine, I would just keep the 289 as an original engine with an overhaul. You can always stroke it to some incredible numbers for sit you back in your seat too. But that can be done years later when you have the funds.

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:26:11 PM   
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The 289 is also a Windsor engine. It depends on your deep pockets. If it were mine, I would just keep the 289 as an original engine with an overhaul. You can always stroke it to some incredible numbers for sit you back in your seat too. But that can be done years later when you have the funds.

So you think I should stick with the 289 and not take the 351? Is this because originality is so important to you or do you not like the 351 for another reason?

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:44:20 PM   
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You know I am an original what was put into the car works the best guy. Yes, you can add a 351 W and in some cases a 351C engine in a classic Mustang. Hell, some guys even try to put in large block engines in theirs like 426's and EFI 5.0's and have relative success with a ton of mods, but I just think the classic 65-66 Mustangs were neither designed nor meant to have that kind of power. The bodies are not designed to accept that, and neither are the rest of the components. Yes, you can modify it with beefed up components, but in the end, you have a freak. If you want a hot rod that will give you the best of both worlds, get an O3-06 Mach or Cobra. I have read where guys have spent 30 thousand dollars on their classic to make it about the same as my 03 Mach that I spent less than that for a new car. Yes, the classic look is great as we all agree, but from a sheer performance standpoint, the classics cannot be modded enough to beat the modern Mustangs. Rembering, that the modern Mustangs can also be modded too.

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:50:18 PM   
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Yeah I can see your point. One of the reasons I bought this '67 though is because I viewed it as moddible and easy to work on. I was gonna get a 65-66 but they were just to classy to do something like drop a 351 into. Don't ask my why...that was just how I felt about them.

How hard is it to get the 351 into mine? I was under the impression that it's fairly easy. No shock tower modifications or any of that, just a new suspension. Anyways, there is no guarentee that I'm gonna go through with this - I'm just exploring my options and that classifieds ad happened to come up.

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/24/2006 11:53:23 PM   
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A 351 Windsor will drop into your 67 engine bay with a few mods. If that is what you want, then go for it.

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 12:04:29 AM   
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A 351 Windsor will drop into your 67 engine bay with a few mods. If that is what you want, then go for it.

I just might. It'd be awesome on a restomod IMO but we'll see.

I asked why he's selling it. The guy told me that he just bought the Torino but was concerned about gas when he was surprised by what a guzzler it is. Who buys a 351 when gas is an issue???? There are some pretty interesting people out there

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 12:18:20 AM   
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Ryan, sent you a PM...

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 11:39:01 AM   
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Glen you can get alot of performance out of classic cas, but having someone do the work for you will be expensive. Doing most of it yourself can save you money if you dont goof up too often, and research everything before you do it.

As for having a 351W its a good thing to have. The choice between 289/347 and 351 is more about packaging than anything else. Some cars like the 65-66 and earlier Falcons, fairlanes etc, wont fit the 351W easily and the 347 is a large CI 289/302 so it fits better. The price to build a stroker is a bit more than a stock size engine, but with the availability of kits its not as large a difference. You can have stock looks with more power with a stroker, to some people that is desierable..

I would buy the 351, what you do is up to you. I have alot of projects so another engine is a good thing to have. If you only have one, you need o figure out what you want to do with it. More power or a cruiser...

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 2:58:43 PM   
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Grab that engine and resell it! Thats a damn good price!

Edit: Im also interested in one of those rearends, if they have discs. Though which would be better for my 67 w/289 (future 351c or w)?

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 3:16:20 PM   
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Grab that engine and resell it! Thats a damn good price!

Edit: Im also interested in one of those rearends, if they have discs. Though which would be better for my 67 w/289 (future 351c or w)?
you can find 351's in junkyards for that price, nothing real spectacular about a 110k windsor, its worth 200-300 bucks max

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 3:16:28 PM   
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I would keep the 289 and build it up. I just got my 289 short block back from the machine shop all done and the following will be installed over the next two or so weeks. Based on the Dyno, it should be about 380hp with 370ft lbs torque at the crank... Enough to keep you in the seat.

My new built up 289;

* Keith Black Forged pistons (9.5:1 Compression)
* Comp Cam's XE262H (493 / 500 lift with 268 duration)
* Comp Cam lifters and push-rods
* Edelbrock Performer PRM intake with endurashine
* Edelbrock Performer RPM heads
* Edelbrock 650 Carburetor with endurashine
* Crane Roller Rockers
* High volume oil pump
* high volume water pump
* MSD Distributor
* Fluidyne 3 row ALum radiator
* Ford Racing Chromed Cast alum valve covers
* Chromed 7 qt oil pan

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 3:23:21 PM   
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408 stroker... You wont be sorry...

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 3:36:09 PM   
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I'll take one of what slickman's having!

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 3:53:59 PM   
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I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to go look at it today. We'll see...

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 4:46:22 PM   
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The 289 is also a Windsor engine. It depends on your deep pockets. If it were mine, I would just keep the 289 as an original engine with an overhaul. You can always stroke it to some incredible numbers for sit you back in your seat too. But that can be done years later when you have the funds.


Not trying to be a smarta$$, but the 289 is actually a Cleveland


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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 4:52:00 PM   
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^ Smartass

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RE: Stroked 347 vs 351w vs 289 - 6/25/2006 7:28:01 PM   
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I would keep the 289 and build it up. I just got my 289 short block back from the machine shop all done and the following will be installed over the next two or so weeks. Based on the Dyno, it should be about 380hp with 370ft lbs torque at the crank... Enough to keep you in the seat.

My new built up 289;

* Keith Black Forged pistons (9.5:1 Compression)
* Comp Cam's XE262H (493 / 500 lift with 268 duration)
* Comp Cam lifters and push-rods
* Edelbrock Performer PRM intake with endurashine
* Edelbrock Performer RPM heads
* Edelbrock 650 Carburetor with endurashine
* Crane Roller Rockers
* High volume oil pump
* high volume water pump
* MSD Distributor
* Fluidyne 3 row ALum radiator
* Ford Racing Chromed Cast alum valve covers
* Chromed 7 qt oil pan
that motor is not making 380

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