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great, just when I get the idea of getting FI out of my head, just getting a couple more bolt ons and calling it a day then really going nuts with the next car, you put this thread here.
It looks like I don't have a choice in the turbo matter anymore. Will be a while, as I don't buy anything on credit and I just became an 'adult' back in december, started working in march.
That's great you ran that hard, now I must have them. What did you dyno @ and at what boost?
Jimp, thanks for posting this man, appreciate it. Ok, got home, I'm done for the day. Need to fire up the grill and open a cold one.
Best run of the day, out of 4 runs is:
R/T: .269
60: 2.2
330: 5.81
1/8: 8.73
MPH: 83.65
1000: 11.27
1/4: 13.41
MPH: 105 (holy crap!!!!)
She's got 12's in her, I know it cause of my trap speed. Today was a blast, but tough! I could not hook!!!! I was all over the place on the Nittos, even did pro burn outs on them.
I know once I get my DR's, its on!!!!! The other thing, and ranebow and I have been talking about this (and he is making the same recomendations as PH) is I may want to consider the stock gear. The 3.73's may be a tad tall for all the power I'm running.
So there you have it, thanks for the support. And thanks Jimp/BlackLX, Scrming, Afixer and Ranebowcyxx for the talks from the pit and the suggestions.
Congrats Rygen! This is just a superb first time on the quarter mile with the turbo. You'll hit 12's for sure!
Rygen Congrats 13.40’s is very nice, looks like you had a lot of fun nice going..
Ok you know I am a candid person as you always told me so here is my candid opinions and advice not to be offensive to anyone but to offer some opinions. I read some posts here and at another forum and would like to mention a few things that could of interest to you Rygen
Rygen on my quote below you have to admit I was very close with my statement back on May 25, 06 of you car running 13.30-13.40 in the 1/4 before you ran the ¼ yesterday.
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TJ06 You ran about a low 13. IMO (13.30 -13.40), using the margin of error of the conversion and rounding it off on your 1/8 time conversion also says poss. low 13 backs up my other reply per low 13. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=47758
Ok no offense Jimp just trying to help out Rygen here
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Jimp First run: 13.4, 2.2 60ft @ 104.8 mph Looks like he's having traction problems with that turbo! Look at his MPH though! 12 second car easy. Details to follow.
Jimp that MPH that Rygen ran does not mean easy 12’s see ET’s w/MPH below.
To run 12’s from 13.40’s by just using DR’s is asking a lot not impossible but a lot. Example remember Scrming with all his torque 400+ I think and complained all the spinning he experienced. So he installed DR’s and his time came down 2/10’s. Asking for 4-5 10’s off your time is a tall order IMO possible but a tall order.
Talking about 60 times ,someone mentioned at another forum about for you to run a 1.8 in the 60 to run a high 12 but I don’t think IMO you need to run that low for a high 12. I think a 1.93 (remember that turbo is good in the last 1/8) or under could get you in. The only thing with an auto (8.5 psi) launching without a stall not sure how easy that will be
Also just for the record Mike Powerhouse ran a 60 in only a 2.01 with ET of 12.57 ET but at 117MPH but that was also at a higher PSI than you are running but he did it in 2.01 60 but also he has a MT
Disclaimer all of the above is just IMO.
Good luck next weekend Rygen. I want to see 12's :)
No offense taken man, you know I appreciate your posts. And you were right on the money on your prediction.
The only thing I can say is it is really hard to predict what the turbo can do with a really solid launch on tires that hook. I have looked at several other cars with better 60 ft, Scrming at a 1.8 and Jimp at a 1.9. It's hard to compare this thing to the juice or an SC because of the power curve and the TQ. It has TQ like the Nitrous, at least within 15HP of the my setup, but pulls for the entire run. The SC has great top end, but dosn't have the TQ of the two systems, however, it makes launching a lot easier.
But...if I can get the turbo to hook, on an aggressive launch....I will hit max boost close to off the line, and have the TQ and the top end for the entire run. We will have to wait and see, I know it wont be easy. Getting a 13.6 on street tires with 100 shot of juice wasn't easy either and with a 2.03 60ft. It's also going to be harder now that it gets hot at the track (95+ degrees) But practice makes perfect.
I'm determined to hit 12's, count on it. And I really want to hit 12's with an auto at 8.5psi. To me that is a huge acomplishment, so I might have to whip out mr. plastic for a new DS or stall converter, so be it.
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Best 1/4: 10.97@122.09, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6 Best 1/4: 11.67@115.45, 1.64 60ft w/5.4 3V Best 1/8: 7.401@92.77, 1.65 60ft w/5.4 3V www.rygen.net/stang
No offense taken man, you know I appreciate your posts. And you were right on the money on your prediction.
The only thing I can say is it is really hard to predict what the turbo can do with a really solid launch on tires that hook. I have looked at several other cars with better 60 ft, Scrming at a 1.8 and Jimp at a 1.9. It's hard to compare this thing to the juice or an SC because of the power curve and the TQ. It has TQ like the Nitrous, at least within 15HP of the my setup, but pulls for the entire run. The SC has great top end, but dosn't have the TQ of the two systems, however, it makes launching a lot easier.
But...if I can get the turbo to hook, on an aggressive launch....I will hit max boost close to off the line, and have the TQ and the top end for the entire run. We will have to wait and see, I know it wont be easy. Getting a 13.6 on street tires with 100 shot of juice wasn't easy either and with a 2.03 60ft. It's also going to be harder now that it gets hot at the track (95+ degrees) But practice makes perfect.
I'm determined to hit 12's, count on it. And I really want to hit 12's with an auto at 8.5psi. To me that is a huge acomplishment, so I might have to whip out mr. plastic for a new DS or stall converter, so be it.
Well maybe not EASY 12s like i said but 12s are definitely doable. With DRs you could pick up 4/10ths on the launch and i would imagine your trap speed will be higher because you won't be wasting as much time on the launch. At the risk of sounding like our other friend, here's my prediction: 12.8@107MPH.
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Best track time: 13.5@100MPH (100 shot) 271RWHP and 349RWTQ (100 shot)
Uh oh Scrming!!!!! looks like the student is becoming the teacher lol. You better watch out for Rygen, he's comn for your number one spot lol. All jokes aside, congrats Rygen. I can only image what the ride must be like. Where's MSP at? lol he cracks me up everytime.
No offense taken man, you know I appreciate your posts. And you were right on the money on your prediction.
The only thing I can say is it is really hard to predict what the turbo can do with a really solid launch on tires that hook. I have looked at several other cars with better 60 ft, Scrming at a 1.8 and Jimp at a 1.9. It's hard to compare this thing to the juice or an SC because of the power curve and the TQ. It has TQ like the Nitrous, at least within 15HP of the my setup, but pulls for the entire run. The SC has great top end, but dosn't have the TQ of the two systems, however, it makes launching a lot easier.
But...if I can get the turbo to hook, on an aggressive launch....I will hit max boost close to off the line, and have the TQ and the top end for the entire run. We will have to wait and see, I know it wont be easy. Getting a 13.6 on street tires with 100 shot of juice wasn't easy either and with a 2.03 60ft. It's also going to be harder now that it gets hot at the track (95+ degrees) But practice makes perfect.
I'm determined to hit 12's, count on it. And I really want to hit 12's with an auto at 8.5psi. To me that is a huge acomplishment, so I might have to whip out mr. plastic for a new DS or stall converter, so be it.
Well maybe not EASY 12s like i said but 12s are definitely doable. With DRs you could pick up 4/10ths on the launch and i would imagine your trap speed will be higher because you won't be wasting as much time on the launch. At the risk of sounding like our other friend, here's my prediction: 12.8@107MPH.
Ok Jimp :) this sounds good I’ll take another stab at it, ok 2/10’s + off at least for DR’s, Hmmm this time I think there will/could be tuning at the track this time ;) plus for weather conditions take off a little for that. The wild card is the weather and track conditions, but taking the tuning and DR’s into account. .
I am thinking 12.95- 13.05 @107 +MPH But this ET is only for DR’s and tuning being done.
But Rygen sounds so confident either he knows something or he is going to will this car into the 12’s and if he runs 12’s history will be made first non pro forum member to run 12’s in a Mustang 4.0.
No matter whether you hit 12's or not (Which I am sure you will soon) those numbers are sick!!! (In a good way) I can now honestly be proud of being on these forums with knowing guys like you doing these great things! (Like afixer & others as well)...someday my pony will grow up to be like yours (well at least close to yours!) LOL
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No offense taken man, you know I appreciate your posts. And you were right on the money on your prediction.
The only thing I can say is it is really hard to predict what the turbo can do with a really solid launch on tires that hook. I have looked at several other cars with better 60 ft, Scrming at a 1.8 and Jimp at a 1.9. It's hard to compare this thing to the juice or an SC because of the power curve and the TQ. It has TQ like the Nitrous, at least within 15HP of the my setup, but pulls for the entire run. The SC has great top end, but dosn't have the TQ of the two systems, however, it makes launching a lot easier.
But...if I can get the turbo to hook, on an aggressive launch....I will hit max boost close to off the line, and have the TQ and the top end for the entire run. We will have to wait and see, I know it wont be easy. Getting a 13.6 on street tires with 100 shot of juice wasn't easy either and with a 2.03 60ft. It's also going to be harder now that it gets hot at the track (95+ degrees) But practice makes perfect.
I'm determined to hit 12's, count on it. And I really want to hit 12's with an auto at 8.5psi. To me that is a huge acomplishment, so I might have to whip out mr. plastic for a new DS or stall converter, so be it.
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Hey thanks for this link man, I found the track easily. Wichita Interantional Raceway. I knew I had heard of it, jsut wasn't sure where it was. Turns out it's only like 10 miles North of me. Going to be checking it out very soon. Not sure If I want to go out and check it out before or after I do my gear swap though. Might wait for the gears and Tlock to improve things a little. Anyways thanks again for the link. And one more times great times. Can't wait to see your progress!
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mmmm adrenaline, better than any drug money can buy. One of these days I'm goin to the track. I just have to figure out where it is LOL. I've only lived here 15 years, now wonder I don't know where it's at. lol
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Great times Ry, can't wait to see it when you can hookup. Was it intense?
Thanks man. It’s always intense at the track. I always feel like I did a hard days work after leaving the track, because of the constant adrenalin rush, it really takes it toll. But it’s a rush for sure, I strongly recommend it.
Hey Rygen like to mention a few things from recent posts I just read from my last post so I am not misunderstood.
First of all Rygen IMO could run just about anywhere in 12’s he wants right now by just changing 1 spring.
What it looks like is he wants and is trying to do is run 12’s w/auto on only 8.5psi !! That IMO would be a impressive accomplishment but it also goes much farther than that. This goal from trying to get into the 12’s on only 8.5psi this data will set him up should he decide to up the spring to 9.5psi on a stock bottom end and he would have a great base line best ET to work off of. Also this data/testing from the 8.5psi and if he decides on 9.5psi will also help him this winter when rebuilding his motor to go faster and get it better dialed per building it and on what ET could be possible along with gearing.
Speaking of gearing one of the other things that is going to be good info when he/if decides to change gears to a 3.50 or even a 3.31 that will be really interesting info vs. the 373. Remember unlike a centi S/C a taller gear works better for a turbo. This weekend alone will be great to see what DR’s do to his times. This is also the first turbo on a 4.0 auto interesting to compare to a stick also more good info when he goes to a stall I mean I could go on and on. The excellent efficient ness is showing on this turbo (psi vs HP&TQ + ET) vs. other systems out for the 4.0 or as Rygn likes to say pound for pound :)
Those people considering S/C’s, Nitrous will have some great info to work with from Rygen’s work to help decide what they want out of a system.
The above is just a few things I mentioned just scratching the surface, Rygen is supplying a lot more info than I just mentioned above IMO for guys who want and who know what to look for. So getting the best ET at the lowest psi is great.
I've been staging pretty shallow, we will see, I need more practice with this setup.
@TJ,
Thanks man, we will have to wait and find out. Cause at 4AM EST, my son and I start the trek down to Richmond for FFW. I will have DR's and hope to break this 13 ET barrier. If not, I will still have a blast, though my other spring is in the car.....just in case. LOL. I really want 12's on 8.5lbs of boost though. Another thing I forgot about that I plan to do is take out my front sway bar. Its still on the car!!!! So when I get to the track, I will take that puppy off!
So, more to come soon!!!!
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Best 1/4: 10.97@122.09, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6 Best 1/4: 11.67@115.45, 1.64 60ft w/5.4 3V Best 1/8: 7.401@92.77, 1.65 60ft w/5.4 3V www.rygen.net/stang
rygen though my other spring is in the car.....just in case. LOL.
LMAO! Way to go man! Rygen rumor has it pressure is headed your way, if 12’s is a no go then spring in and put the pedal to the metal this weekend I wouldn’t mess around anymore! I hope you know what I am talking about per rumor. :)
rygen though my other spring is in the car.....just in case. LOL.
LMAO! Way to go man! Rygen rumor has it pressure is headed your way, if 12’s is a no go then spring in and put the pedal to the metal this weekend I wouldn’t mess around anymore! I hope you know what I am talking about per rumor. :)
Pedal down and good luck!
ROFL!!! I know whats going down this weekend, and hey, as long as a 4.0 is representing, I'm all for it. Norwalk will be the real deal!
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Best 1/4: 10.97@122.09, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6 Best 1/4: 11.67@115.45, 1.64 60ft w/5.4 3V Best 1/8: 7.401@92.77, 1.65 60ft w/5.4 3V www.rygen.net/stang
rygen though my other spring is in the car.....just in case. LOL.
LMAO! Way to go man! Rygen rumor has it pressure is headed your way, if 12’s is a no go then spring in and put the pedal to the metal this weekend I wouldn’t mess around anymore! I hope you know what I am talking about per rumor. :)
Pedal down and good luck!
ROFL!!! I know whats going down this weekend, and hey, as long as a 4.0 is representing, I'm all for it. Norwalk will be the real deal!
Rygen we are not on the exact same page on this one, the rumor I am talking about is not this weekend, care to explain what you are talking about? :)
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