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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/7/2003 10:46:06 PM   
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Nuff said.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/9/2003 3:25:46 AM   
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On a lighter note , yes it is possible to get duals put on the car. i had them put on mine when it was a 4 banger. It didn't do much as for sound though. it let out alittle "grunt" when i'de first hit the gas but nothing after that. Granted I had cheaper "turbo" mufflers put on it. all they did was run one pipe through the cross member and made a "Y" out to two mufflers. They did have to do some wierd crappy looking welding to hang the muffler on the right hand side since there wasn't one there already.


As far as my opinion ,buy a 5.0 Notchback like everyone is saying. This guy at my work  is buying one next week for $2,500. It has lots of engine work done to it but with average body condition. there is another one at a used car lot near my town with immaculate interior and body and 78,000 miles. They want $5,700 for it.It is harder to find Notches around here since we have a drag strip close by and Mustangs are the favorite in my area. Notches are the lightest so i guess everyone goes after them first. I see hatchbacks all the time cheap. My uncle buys wrecked and used stangs and fixes them up to sell and everything. He always has lots of decent ones he is selling for $4000 or less.look around and buy a 5.0,I did the 2.3 to 5.0 swap and although it wasn't the hardest thing to do  , it wasn't easy . If you are going to do it yourself then it can be pretty cheap providing you buy a donor car and not try to buy everything seperate. If you are going to have to have someone do it for you then you are wasting your time really. You'll have to buy the donor car or parts and then labor is possibly going to cost so much you could almost buy a 5.0 of decent quality and not have to wait or mess with the swap.


As far as the differences in 2.3 blocks i have only heard of something to do with oil provisions to the turbo. I can't remember anything else that was said in my 2 years of researching a 2.3 N/A to 2.3T conversion concerning the block. There are differences in internals though. Anyways after the 5.0 swap i dont know what I was thinking when i wanted to fool with the 4 banger. I'm sure 2.3's are nice when highly modified but the parts I found at Esslinger , Racer Walsh and some of the other places weren't exactly cheap. Money well spent on a 5.0 or 5.4 rather than a 2.3


Sorry for talking so much by the way . I'm up to late and I'm fairly hyper right now hehe! Nobody flame at me if i said something stupid , but feel free to correct me. i'de rather be prven wrong than give bad advice.


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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/9/2003 3:51:54 AM   
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in my local newspaper...5.0 notch 1990, 5 speed.  like 175k miles...but f**king $1,800!  its even modded!  notches are common and cheap!

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/10/2003 2:18:01 AM   
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I wish I could find more of them around here though. if i had found a decent 5.0 Notch I'de have screwed my swap and just bought it instead. i wish i could have found a nice 5.0 Notch to mod and play around with and left mine a 4 banger for road trips.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/10/2003 11:52:20 AM   
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i guess since mustangs are common here, so are the oldies.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/10/2003 1:46:05 PM   
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[QUOTE=RAGNAROK]

On a lighter note , yes it is possible to get duals put on the car. i had them put on mine when it was a 4 banger.[/QUOTE]

It's gay putting duals on a single bank motor (yes, even if it's an I6).

The thing about duals on a 4 banger is you're better off without. Why?

Because although the exhaust velocity CAN skyrocket, with two pipes to fill up and speed gases out of the motor will need to rev much higher to prodce enough volume to do it. It will probably need to rev higher than it can (IE 12 grand when it can only hit 7 grand).

Stick to a single pipe, you'll be happier.


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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/10/2003 5:15:37 PM   
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Actually the reason I did it was because I needed a new exhaust badly because of rattling and fumes coming into the cab ,and since we had the engine swap planned in the future I figured we'd just cut the "y" off and run pipes back to the mufflers when we got the 5.0 in. Rather than buy 2 new exhaust systems in a short period of time. Besides, I was answering her question on wether or not it is possible to do , not telling her to do it. And on a side note, It doesn't make a difference either way. i didn't feel any loss or gain in power whatsoever so it doesn't matter either way to me. I don't recommend it as a so called "Mod" since it doesn't do crap , I did it to save money on buying a dual setup once I swapped the 5.0 in. And it worked  , it cost me $50 to get the "Y" cut off and have 2 pipes ran back.  


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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/12/2003 6:15:20 PM   
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See, you have plans like that and modify to accomidate them.

Most people don't

And MAJOR props to you for your project, not a lot of people have the balls to go ahead and do it.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/12/2003 9:21:20 PM   
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Thanks , it's still rough though right now. I still got some wiring issues , and somethings not right with the carb. That car used half a tank of gas in 1 day. i bet I only drove 20 miles . Its crazy . Anyways, I wish i could find a digital camera to borrow from someone. I did some real cool stuff with the interior today. i replaced alot of the center console pieces with diamond plate pieces I made. I also made a diamond plate piece that covers where my old shifter was. It has switches in it for my fans and fuel pump, and also has a switch for my amp , in case the popo pass by when i'm cruising. Flip that switch and the subs cut off in no time baby! hehe. The car itself looks awsome. Alittle paint and it'l be sweet ass. Just doesn't run like I want it to right now.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/12/2003 10:26:23 PM   
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Nice work man, definately planning things out. I wish more people thought things through like you

You check the a/f of the exhaust? If you can find an O2 sensor, shove it in there (you can always put a bolt in it then tack weld it shut) and it'll give you an idea if you're rich/lean. Very helpful.

I'm going for the stealth s**t personally. I'm gonna have a 14 or hopefully 13 second ride.....and it's gonna look completely stock.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/13/2003 12:23:27 AM   
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Well ,I am actually going to put my stock hood back on too. this big ram air one looks sweet but it isn't painted and it sticks up to high. Kinda makes me feel like a redneck-ricer. I think it looks more sleek with the stock one anyways , or maybe a 2" cowl or soemthing. Just sucks because my air cleaner and the top of the a/c bracket cause the hood not to shut. So i'm going to have to get a smaler air cleaner and either mod the a/c bracket or figure out a way to take the a/c off. i already tried once but i was unable to find a way to route the belt . Do you know of a kit to delete the a/c ? My smog pump is already gone. I got the belt routed once and thought I was the s**t , then realized the water pump would be going the wrong damn way! Hahaha. If I get rid of the a/c the belt will hit the water pump pulley , so i have to make a bracket or find a kit to put a pully where the a/c was so it'll hold the belt up.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/13/2003 8:51:52 AM   
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Go to Ford and get a belt for a non-A/C 'stang, the tension will be fine and you can completely remove the A/C system.

As far as the hood, get the stock one and use a whiz wheel on it. Starting a couple inches in front of the air cleaner, cut two lines towards the cowl running paralel to the air cleaner

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/13/2003 10:02:59 PM   
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I gues it's worth a try. I have 3 stock hoods setting here now as of today. I bought them from my uncle for $15 bucks each. They have really bad paint but I just got them so i could experiment. I think It would look cool if I made one that had a round hole where the air cleaner stuck out the top. Kinda like the round track cars we have around here. Alittle redneck but I think it would look cool with alittle chrome trim around the hole . The other one I guess I will try what you said . I'm going to keep the original hood stock and not bang on it because it's still painted the same color as the car and I am eventually going get a bracket and pulley kit and reposition where the alternator is and try to delete the a/c pulley. I would get one of the belt you are talking about but it actually isn't a belt issue. It's just that when i take the a/c pulley off there is no way to route the belt. It causes the belt to have to go from the power steering pump straight to the alternator. The water pump pulley is directly between and the belt runs right into it. Hard to explain , maybe I can draw a pic. I had the belt on it once in a way it would have worked, but it was on the wrong side the water pump. Water + Pump runnin wrong direction = Not good . haha


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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/15/2003 2:05:49 PM   
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THERE IS AN IDLER PULLY THAT FORD PUT ON IN PLACE OF THE AC COMPRESSIOR.  I WILL RUN ABOUT 50$ OR YOPU CAN PICK ON UP AT A SWAP MEET FOR AROUND 35$ .  WHEN YOU POURCHASE THE IDLER PULLEY I T WILL HAVE THE SIZE OF BELT YOU WILL NEED, BUT IT SHOULD BE THE SAME SIZE AS WHAT WAS ON IT BEFORE.  MY 88 CAME WITH OUT AIR FROM THE FACTORY AND IT HAD THE IDLER PULLY SET UP ON IT.  SUMMITT CARRIES IT ALONG WITH MANY OTHER MUSTANG PARTS PEOPLE.


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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/15/2003 9:47:35 PM   
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Awsome , thanks man. I'll check it out

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/16/2003 12:40:58 AM   
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on this subject of 4 cyl 2.3.... i saw one at the track today...running low 20's in the 1/4 consistently. ditch it ASAP for a V6 or V8.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/16/2003 1:29:31 AM   
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When i had a 2.3 in my car I almost decided to cut the floorboard out and just use my legs to power the car. Almost as fast and you save on gas money

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/16/2003 1:57:20 AM   
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And get a crazy workout.

My 4 banger's at 16 flat right now.

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/16/2003 2:15:42 AM   
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there was on in colombus that was in the 8 sec zone.  of coarse when it took off it stood on it back bumper it was wild!

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lil 4 cylinder 2.3 - 8/16/2003 3:48:06 PM   
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I thought it would be neat to keep my 2.3 and make it a monster but it just wasn't working. The stuff for them is way to high and I figured it would be cheaper and easier to put in a 5.0. But yeah I have seen some 2.3 stangs and rangers, and some 2.0 pintos that lay down some serious numbers though.

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