ORIGINAL: 95LT1 Disclaimer: may be dumbass ricer, but they usually won't run for that much $.
Uh.... Ricers don't normally buy a 30,000+ dollar sport compact and then race for money....
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Money Is Stollen... It was rape... We went from a 20 roll i was in 2nd gear. He beeped it out and jumped on me.. at the End of second we were even...power shifter to 3rd put a car on him and pulled 2 cars in 3rd. power shifted to 4th pulled another 2 and it was over. Got my money and the race on camera...He was Demoralized
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2900 lbs 3.73's and a 5 speed with a really near stock 5.0 equals and honest 13.9 if you can get it moving to the tune of a 2.0 60 ft. Trust me I have seen it.
I think 2000Si should go to his little ricer boards and stop comming here with all the info that he reads on the internet...not from any experiance.
Experience? You said...
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ORIGINAL: 92 StangBang We went from a 20 roll i was in 2nd gear. He beeped it out and jumped on me.. at the End of second we were even...power shifter to 3rd put a car on him and pulled 2 cars in 3rd. power shifted to 4th pulled another 2 and it was over. Got my money and the race on camera...He was Demoralized
He jumped on you? Yet you pulled on him by over 4 cars? Until I see the Video I'm not going to believe you.
From a stop I could see it as the S2K takes a PRO driver to get it's full potential.
They run 14 flat in the 1/4 mile but from a roll they aren't a joke. The worst part of a S2K in the 1/4 is the launch. From around 2nd/3rd they aren't a joke though.
Unless the driver couldn't drive for **** I call BS on this. Not saying it isn't possible however until I see proof I am holding the BS flag.
I raced a few S2K's in my time. Even raced a Vortech SCed one. I know and have seen what they're capable of.
I could be wrong and he could have been a ****ty driver but this story isn't the most believable to me.
RE: Racing an S2000 tonight.. - 5/31/2004 10:34:28 PM
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I think 2000Si should go to his little ricer boards and stop comming here with all the info that he reads on the internet...not from any experiance.
Ok you want my personal experience?
Two years ago I personally watched a 93 5.0 LX with slightly more done to you get ass rapped pretty badly by an S2000 with nothing more than exhaust and cams. Since then that 5.0 was totalled and I haven't seen the S2000 around anymore either. but thats my personal experience.
Now onto your other statement. "ricer" board, you're the idiot kid, who street races by the way, that is coming on the internet to see if you can beat a "ricer" car instead of going to the fugging track to figure out what the hell you run so that YOU can actually have some legal experience.
Whats so wrong with reading things off the internet? So if I say I saw a 3000GT pull on a Trans Am it can't happen because I didn't personally see it with my own two eyes in person? Please. what happens is what happens. Hell, why should I believe any of your stories you've told in this thread? This is on the internet...and unlike you, I don't believe everything I read.
LOL 2000si is correct. You shouldnt street race but it is fun i gotta admit . But at the same time though 2000si Dude you gotta stop thinking Fox body mustangs cant run low 14 stock. My GT 91 runs 14.6 STOCK . To the tires with a 90k or better engine and a wore out 2nd gear and i shift like a old lady with a spin in 1st and 2nd. And my LX seems even quckier to me cause it is so light. I know some mustangs dont even hit 15s cause i have seen it at the track myself,but alot of it does deal with driver and gears. Like my 91 has 3.08 stock .Im not busting on ya cause i think ur aight but serious most mustang runs somewhere in the 14s and even some break into the high 13s. Especially the LX. MY LX weights 2860 and any mods i do it to it will mean fast results. I think the kid might of beaten this dude but who cares really lol.. Just good reading and i dont take what i read to serious. And i bet if he does weight 2900 pounds then his LX would probally run high 13s with his mods. hehehe but who knows.
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2000Si said that 5.0LXs are quick, but not low 14 cars???!! Total BS, with the mods he has he should easily be able to break 14s. You are correct in saying that it really depends on how the two drive, but to say that its a sure win for the S2k is rediculous. If it was a machine driving each car the same, my 200$ is on the stang, and not just because I'm bias, I like S2Ks a lot, but in this match up, the heavier car with more power just might edge out the lighter higher revving import.
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We went from a 20 roll i was in 2nd gear. He beeped it out and jumped on me.. at the End of second we were even...power shifter to 3rd put a car on him and pulled 2 cars in 3rd. power shifted to 4th pulled another 2 and it was over.
"You think a stock S2000 power plant has more torque to beat a modded 5.0 off the line?"
see just like i said he jumped off the start,pulled 2 cars in third and 2 in 4th so i think that ads up to 4 just what the results were just what i predicted never said it had more torque,just its a light car makes up for its torque lossbut it was still another win for the stangs good work ....are u splitting the cash with us .... lol jk good job
RE: Racing an S2000 tonight.. - 6/1/2004 3:28:11 AM
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stinger: 14.6 IS NOT low 14s...
95: With the mods he has, 14s are possible, yes. I'm not denying that, but there is a BIG difference in running a 14.3 over running a 14.8.
Edit for 95 also: I'd like to see this guys dyno sheets, because last I knew 5.0s had 225 hp and 300 ft lbs torque. The S2k has him beat on HP (240) and weight, but it's also light on the torque (170ish). I know the 04 S2k got a 2.2 with slightly higher torque over the 00-03 models, (which have 240 hp/169 ft lbs) but I'm too lazy to go to honda.com and actually look exactly how much torque it got.
Now before you go calling the motor a torqueless wonder just realize that the horsepower output is insanely high because of the rpms and compression ratio. If it put out 180 hp and 169 ft lbs it would look quite a bit more normal.
Still, nothing beats an American V8 for torque production... I cannot, and will not argue that point.
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I told you this kid couldnt drive. S2k's need a good driver with skill to pull the numbers you are talking about. This is an idiot kid with no clue about cars. But I really wasnt impressed with the car. Im sure with the right driver its fast but i did get him by 4 cars. And Ive seen cars with less mods than mine run 13's so I beleive my car is an easy 13 second car. Gears alone are worth about .5 second on there own.
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The redline on the S2K is nearly 9000 rpm, isnt it? Yes it makes 240 hp but at a high RPM and only for a short amount of time. The way a 5.0 can stomp its butt is because the 225 it makes is closer to 4500 rpm, it stays there longer making the engine work more in each gear. If you dont keep that Honda in its tight narrow powerband, you will get spanked. Its all about shift points, weight, and not doing anything stupid with the Honda. Still they need alot of perfection to get low 14's.
In a 14-15 second race 4 car lengths isnt that much time. A second would be about the most difference you can get. I am very confident he can and did beat the S2K. I dont need a video, I feel those cars are over rated and for normal people they are slow but pretty.
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Mysterious def. knows what hes talkin about lol. I did spank that thing by 4 car lenths. That thing is like a dam 2 stroke on the pipe with that powerband, its like an on-off switch
Mysterious def. knows what hes talkin about lol. I did spank that thing by 4 car lenths. That thing is like a dam 2 stroke on the pipe with that powerband, its like an on-off switch
You're a import hater I can tell.
I still say BS on the 4 car lengths.
Yes it takes a pro driver to get the max performance of those cars HOWEVER it doesn't take an idiot to race from a roll.
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00-03 S2ks redline at 9000 rpm
04-up S2ks redline at 8000 rpm
An 04 S2k has a tighter powerband and he will be in that power band sooner than you think.
A friends of mine's neighbor has an 04 s2000, he has an aftermarket midpipe and catback and I was at the track with him (by chance) and watched him make about 5 runs - his best was a 14.6 - not that good considering he just dropped like 600 bucks on it. Most of his runs were in the high 14's. I don't think hes that good of a driver - but who knows. Just FYI
If the kid had any common sense he would of challenge you to a autocross or open track contest, and used his S2k to it full advantage. It always ends up being 1/4 mile times that seem to be the end all of car wars. I have a stock 5.0 ragtop with gears best time was 14:30's at 97 and I know I would not want a S2k behind me on a curvy road.
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