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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:02:13 PM
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pat6674u
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You can get a Posi-trace Lok (Lsd), Pulleys, gears, a lighter drive shaft, lighter wheels. Do your best to lighten the car. Or you can increase the bhp by adding modifications to the engine, such as a CAI, new tune and exhaust. Powers-adders such as T/c or S/C axdd the most hp though
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:06:35 PM
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ok, now what exactly is a T/C or an S/C?
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You can get a Posi-trace Lok (Lsd), Pulleys, gears, a lighter drive shaft, lighter wheels. Do your best to lighten the car. Or you can increase the bhp by adding modifications to the engine, such as a CAI, new tune and exhaust. Powers-adders such as T/c or S/C axdd the most hp though
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:09:42 PM
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Turbocharger and Supercharger.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:11:59 PM
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oh, haha...ok, i feel stupid now....lol, i should have known that...i'm not a turbo kind of guy...i'd rather go with a supercharger  unless there is no real difference between them?
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:22:14 PM
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I'm going to go with an axle-back exhaust as well. I hear all this talk about a "restrictive Y pipe"...I take it that is different from a "straight through" axleback exhaust? I saw a posting on magnaflow's site that said axleback typically sees higher performance gains than dual exhaust...is this the case for both Y-pipe and "straight-through" or are they the same? maybe I'm just totally confused here....help!
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:25:43 PM
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The Y is the shape of the exhaust tubing under the car. I think Rygen said they dynoed a true dual (H or X?) and there was like a 2 RWHP gain. Not much performance but plenty of sound when you change exhaust.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:26:07 PM
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I'm going to go with an axle-back exhaust as well. I hear all this talk about a "restrictive Y pipe"...I take it that is different from a "straight through" axleback exhaust? I saw a posting on magnaflow's site that said axleback typically sees higher performance gains than dual exhaust...is this the case for both Y-pipe and "straight-through" or are they the same? maybe I'm just totally confused here....help!
well, i would think if the air is going straight back it would get air out faster...so i would think u could gain something there, but i dont know. i hear there is no real difference between dual or single exhaust so thats why i'm gonna stick to my single exhaust 
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 2:42:23 PM
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I thought a Y-pipe was the pipe that took the exhaust from both manifolds-down - and combined the two pipes it into the one pipe to go to the muffler.
If you want to do the most for the least, start with a Drop-in K&N air filter, then put on the axle back exhaust.. I bet a pair of short headers would be cheaper than a cai & tuner, but the gains from all of those listed there will not be as high as the cai & tuner alone. If you plan on going the S/C route you can keep the headers. If you put on a turbo.. the headers are going to come off of the car. For me, that's waaaay down the line.
My first two, if any modifications will be a shorty antenna, and a drop in k&n... after the first of next year, I will probably do the axle back exhaust. I figure by then prices will come down.
As far as appearance modifications, I see some cool stripes, some smoked headlight lenses, a rear decklip blackout, and a chin spoiler in my future.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 3:29:13 PM
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I think I see where my confusion was lying...I thought the Y pipe was the other way around, splitting into dual exhaust....DOH!
So let me see if I understand this correctly....
X-pipe = Dual exhaust
Y-Pipe = Stock Exhaust
H-Pip = ???
There's so many pieces for Exhaust it confuses the hell out of me. I want to stick with an axleback exhaust but I want it to be as efficient and performance oriented as possible. What would be the best setup?
Thanks for the help as always
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 4:54:06 PM
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From what I understand from reading on here, it's going to be pretty much your decision, they will all give modest hp gains, but the sounds are all a little different for the axleback - there's a post at the top on here with sound clips of each exhaust setup - listen to them and get the one you like best.
H-pipe and X-pipe both are dual setups, just not true dual straight out the back exhaust systems, the pipe connects both exhaust pipes, otherwise you would have exhaust that sounded like you had a pissed off bumblebee under your hood.. The connection allows the six cyliders to kinda resonate, giving you the deeper sound, probably acutually ends up releasing some back pressure too, but I am not sure. I am guessing again, that the x or H is the shape of the pipe and how it connects to the exhaust pipes..
Ie. Y <---- 2 into one ..... X <--- two into two - where both exhaust pipes coming off the engine intersect with eachother --- H <---- pipe joining each side together.. I could be way off though.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 4:56:46 PM
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The Y is the shape of the exhaust tubing under the car. I think Rygen said they dynoed a true dual (H or X?) and there was like a 2 RWHP gain. Not much performance but plenty of sound when you change exhaust.
I had my car dynoed before and after from a Y pipe configuration to a X, 2HP gain, which is arguable on a dyno (environment conditions, engine heat, etc.).
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 5:02:32 PM
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oh, haha...ok, i feel stupid now....lol, i should have known that...i'm not a turbo kind of guy...i'd rather go with a supercharger unless there is no real difference between them?
The power curve is different between the two, and then complicate that by comparing a centri SC (Vortech, Procharger) to a roots SC (Xcharger) and it can get confusing real quick. Roots SC make power at 2K rpm, so you feel it right off the line...sounds pretty sick!
If you want to beat a stock GT for cheap, Nitrous works, though it is not for everyone. I was beating stock and bolt on GT's (no suspension mods) at the track when I used to have it, in fact I havent lost to one yet. But there is no replacement for displacment, if a GT goes all out, we are toast.
Second most economical is a SC, cost less than a TC, generally makes power at higer RPM's, curve isn't as broad, but then just up the boost, throw in a nice IC and your kicking ass and taking names. You can get a SC without intercooler and match GT power.
For simplicity I think the Explorer express (xcharger) is the easiset to install, and has a proven reliability record. Here is a list of power adders that Jimp (a.k.a. BlackLX4.0) maintains on a regular basis for our cars:
http://american-speed.com/****/forums/showthread.php?t=167
Hope this helps.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 5:06:44 PM
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rygenstormlocke
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ok great. thanks so does anyone know what's the most power i can get out of a V6 with mods?
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Yeah you just have to go when theres an open day, like street drags night or something and you can run your car I think its like $15. Just go to your local tracks website and they should have information, if not just call them.
213rwhp is the highest I have seen on the manuals....or did someone post 215???? And that is close to what 04GT's put down stock with no mods.
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 8:09:22 PM
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V6MustangKnight
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oh, haha...ok, i feel stupid now....lol, i should have known that...i'm not a turbo kind of guy...i'd rather go with a supercharger unless there is no real difference between them?
The power curve is different between the two, and then complicate that by comparing a centri SC (Vortech, Procharger) to a roots SC (Xcharger) and it can get confusing real quick. Roots SC make power at 2K rpm, so you feel it right off the line...sounds pretty sick!
If you want to beat a stock GT for cheap, Nitrous works, though it is not for everyone. I was beating stock and bolt on GT's (no suspension mods) at the track when I used to have it, in fact I havent lost to one yet. But there is no replacement for displacment, if a GT goes all out, we are toast.
Second most economical is a SC, cost less than a TC, generally makes power at higer RPM's, curve isn't as broad, but then just up the boost, throw in a nice IC and your kicking ass and taking names. You can get a SC without intercooler and match GT power.
For simplicity I think the Explorer express (xcharger) is the easiset to install, and has a proven reliability record. Here is a list of power adders that Jimp (a.k.a. BlackLX4.0) maintains on a regular basis for our cars:
http://american-speed.com/****/forums/showthread.php?t=167
Hope this helps.
is it possible to use more then one of those on ur car??? or would it be too unstable and too harsh for my engine to handle?
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/15/2006 8:11:11 PM
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oh, haha...ok, i feel stupid now....lol, i should have known that...i'm not a turbo kind of guy...i'd rather go with a supercharger unless there is no real difference between them?
The power curve is different between the two, and then complicate that by comparing a centri SC (Vortech, Procharger) to a roots SC (Xcharger) and it can get confusing real quick. Roots SC make power at 2K rpm, so you feel it right off the line...sounds pretty sick!
If you want to beat a stock GT for cheap, Nitrous works, though it is not for everyone. I was beating stock and bolt on GT's (no suspension mods) at the track when I used to have it, in fact I havent lost to one yet. But there is no replacement for displacment, if a GT goes all out, we are toast.
Second most economical is a SC, cost less than a TC, generally makes power at higer RPM's, curve isn't as broad, but then just up the boost, throw in a nice IC and your kicking ass and taking names. You can get a SC without intercooler and match GT power.
For simplicity I think the Explorer express (xcharger) is the easiset to install, and has a proven reliability record. Here is a list of power adders that Jimp (a.k.a. BlackLX4.0) maintains on a regular basis for our cars:
http://american-speed.com/****/forums/showthread.php?t=167
Hope this helps.
is it possible to use more then one of those on ur car??? or would it be too unstable and too harsh for my engine to handle?
What, a turbo or nitrous. I have the first production Powerhouse Pipeline turbo for our cars installed. I had the Zex nitrous kit wtih racers kit prior.
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Best 1/4: 10.97@122.09, 1.56 60ft w/4.0 V6
Best 1/4: 11.67@115.45, 1.64 60ft w/5.4 3V
Best 1/8: 7.401@92.77, 1.65 60ft w/5.4 3V
www.rygen.net/stang
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RE: Mod Help! - 6/16/2006 12:07:41 AM
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V6MustangKnight
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yay! i'm getting my magnaflow tomorrow!! i'm happy! next.....CAI w/ tuner ...well, thats if i can save up 
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