Does this mean i cant do like a drift with my '68 302...surely i can hold one for a couple of seconds!!!
i dont think you can do it in a RWD car. what they were doing was while turning a sharp turn they would pull the handbrake to lock the back 2 wheels while the front 2 wheels kept pulling and since it was a turn or curve the back of the car would swing out cause it was being pulled. so no i dont think you can.
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a drift is held ONLY if ur car is RWD..see that ways the Rear provides movement whilst steering with the front 2 wheels...so quite literally you are drifting because the back wheels are all over the place...my cousin who drifts with a 240sx says its like doing a power slide on steriods....and he reckons you need to have a RWD
that car was a lancer...the amount of mods u chuck in those things at that level u can get a car driving upside!!!!! Porsche's are mostly ALWAYS RWD or AWD...
that car was a lancer...the amount of mods u chuck in those things at that level u can get a car driving upside!!!!! Porsche's are mostly ALWAYS RWD or AWD...
they wernt ALLL mitsubishi, there was 1 porsche and i dont know n e thing about porsches, and there were about 100 different cars.... so chill out
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well all those mitsubishi's and other imports and the porsche are all FWD, unless they did something to them so they could drift in the movie.
HUH? nOOb! der da der der!
well, as was stated RWD is the better platform for drift. having RWD will allow you to first GET your car sideways (w/o the e-brake) and second KEEP it sideways by still pushing the car while the front steer in the direction you want it to go. it's a little like driving on ice, lots of counter steering. now, FRD you have to lock up the rears, so you start to slow down (it's inevitable). even with the front still "driving" the car, it slows down so you have to cut the e-brake in and out (usually. if you're set up good, you can just brake hard and cut the traction out and than drift out from there).
well all those mitsubishi's and other imports and the porsche are all FWD, unless they did something to them so they could drift in the movie.
HUH? nOOb! der da der der!
well, as was stated RWD is the better platform for drift. having RWD will allow you to first GET your car sideways (w/o the e-brake) and second KEEP it sideways by still pushing the car while the front steer in the direction you want it to go. it's a little like driving on ice, lots of counter steering. now, FRD you have to lock up the rears, so you start to slow down (it's inevitable). even with the front still "driving" the car, it slows down so you have to cut the e-brake in and out (usually. if you're set up good, you can just brake hard and cut the traction out and than drift out from there).
well whenever they did that way without the e-brake, they would smash into the wall or another car. i know ive only drifted in ym fox was when it was raining or icey on the road, never when it was dry.
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HUH? nOOb! der da der der!
well, as was stated RWD is the better platform for drift. having RWD will allow you to first GET your car sideways (w/o the e-brake) and second KEEP it sideways by still pushing the car while the front steer in the direction you want it to go. it's a little like driving on ice, lots of counter steering. now, FRD you have to lock up the rears, so you start to slow down (it's inevitable). even with the front still "driving" the car, it slows down so you have to cut the e-brake in and out (usually. if you're set up good, you can just brake hard and cut the traction out and than drift out from there).
well whenever they did that way without the e-brake, they would smash into the wall or another car. i know ive only drifted in ym fox was when it was raining or icey on the road, never when it was dry.
okay, try to remember what movie "series" we are talking about here. do you really expect them to know what they are doing?
you wanna see a REAL drift movie, rent the LIVE ACTION version of "Initial D" good ****, good movie, real drifting. it also stars the most sought after drift car, as much of an underpowered POS it is, and is the reason that car is so sought after as a drift car!
all the e-brake is used for is to cut out the traction of the wheels so the drift can begin. you can do that, STOMP the brakes and cut all traction, than jump back on the gas as you cut the wheel or inertia (almost like a fish tail or start of a burnout; cut away from the drift and back in and this time open the throttle.) to send the ass end out, than counter steer and go.
okay, try to remember what movie "series" we are talking about here. do you really expect them to know what they are doing?
you wanna see a REAL drift movie, rent the LIVE ACTION version of "Initial D" good ****, good movie, real drifting. it also stars the most sought after drift car, as much of an underpowered POS it is, and is the reason that car is so sought after as a drift car!
all the e-brake is used for is to cut out the traction of the wheels so the drift can begin. you can do that, STOMP the brakes and cut all traction, than jump back on the gas as you cut the wheel or inertia (almost like a fish tail or start of a burnout; cut away from the drift and back in and this time open the throttle.) to send the ass end out, than counter steer and go.
try it and get a movie i couldnt do it at all without a slick road.
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It's so much easier with the E-Brake if you don't use the e-brake it makes it almost impossible too drift correctly.
not true. yes, it does make it EASIER, but it's not almost impossible to do without the e-brake. example: you have a hard turn coming up, (RWD) you slow to enter the turn and as you cut thru, you drop a gear and floor it and counter steer. this (if done right) will send the ass end out. if you line up right you can hold it for a bit and drift thru the turn, countering back to your correct line.
rent "the drift bible" and you'll see 6 ways to drift, only one (maybe two) use the e-brake.
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OH and clutch have you actually tried that? It's a lot harder then your making it sound to be.
yes, i have. in a MR2, a s10 blazer (thought i was rolling that one!), and my 89 fox 4-banger (hard as **** to do on dry ground with the 4 banger, but can be done).
i never claimed that any of it was easy. like anything else it takes time and practice. and above all, i NEVER claimed to be a pro at drifting. it's not on top of my to do list. i enjoy getting loose, but understand the dangers involved, especially on public roads and highways. prefer to do it on a track in a controlled environment, unlike these F&F fans who think they are invincible until they **** up and hit a tree at a buck plus cause they lowered their car so far they hit a pebble and went airborn.
S10 drifting. I gotta see that! Tell me you have video!
Oh and yeah the F&F racers crashing yeah I like going out to the street races and seeing them crash with each other in the parking lot. good times!
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yes, i have. in a MR2, a s10 blazer (thought i was rolling that one!), and my 89 fox 4-banger (hard as **** to do on dry ground with the 4 banger, but can be done).
i never claimed that any of it was easy. like anything else it takes time and practice. and above all, i NEVER claimed to be a pro at drifting. it's not on top of my to do list. i enjoy getting loose, but understand the dangers involved, especially on public roads and highways. prefer to do it on a track in a controlled environment, unlike these F&F fans who think they are invincible until they **** up and hit a tree at a buck plus cause they lowered their car so far they hit a pebble and went airborn.
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Did you guys happen to see the movie "State Of The Union" starring Ice Cube? They had a 67 or 68 that didn't get wrecked. Looked like an eleanor though. They also had what they called a Shelby proto type. 225 MPH. It got wrecked though.
Did you guys happen to see the movie "State Of The Union" starring Ice Cube? They had a 67 or 68 that didn't get wrecked. Looked like an eleanor though. They also had what they called a Shelby proto type. 225 MPH. It got wrecked though.
no but now i am going too
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try it and get a movie i couldnt do it at all without a slick road.
okay if you had said MAKE instead of GET i would have figured that out w/o reading that about 40 times! and what kind of car/motor/tranny was it? that plays a big part. i no longer have my 89, so i can't now. my friends mr2 blew a head gasket about 7 months ago (he always talked **** about how mustang guys "couldn't ever take their car for a spin cause they were constantly working on them" and he hasn't had a hand in the repair of his own car, he hired . . . . . . . . a mustang guy!!!) and still doesn't have his car on the road. as per the blazer, yeah, 31" tires, 5-speed, 3.8L V6, going sideways for about 10 seconds seemed like an entire day! i just couldn't get it to come back! to put it nicely, i shat myself.
Glen, i heard that movie was garbage tho. i mean everyone said ice cube was a horrible actor in that one and it (and the first) had a bit of a F&F vibe to it. now that i know there's some killer cars involved, i might just check it out to and if you like it it's gotta be decent. my step dad is 54 and he hates most of todays movies (and i don't blame him. you cannot ride a motorcycle thru rush hour traffic, turn around and shoot at someone and not run into something!) so i figure you'd prolly be the same. i'll tell ya what, you really can't beat the old black and whites tho! those movies are better than cocaine!!! LOL!
okay if you had said MAKE instead of GET i would have figured that out w/o reading that about 40 times! and what kind of car/motor/tranny was it? that plays a big part.
ok, sinces your being literal, make a movie, you in a RWD car, not using the e-brake, drifting.
i couldnt do it in any of our cars, and we have 4 mustangs and an escape. granted i didnt do it in my dads mustangs or my mom's escape, and my 69 isnt driveable right now.
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RE: Fast and furious tokyo drift - 
i couldnt do it at all without a slick road.
