So one of my friends just got a supercharged Cobalt SS and apparently he thought it could run with/take my 2000 GT. So obviously I had to shut him up. We finally got to race a couple days ago. We went 6 times in a row from a dig and I killed him every time. His excuse was "I kept missing 3rd". Right. And he actually knows how to drive, so for anyone who is wondering...yes, Cobalts are slow. Shocking, isn't it?

Well duh from a dig it would beat it. The Cobalts don't have **** unless boost is built.

Oh GOD. I have a feeling this is gonna turn into a HUGE thread real quick. ha ha ha. Just wait till CodySS catches wind of this. Your gonna have a big arguement on your hands. ha ha ha

Good Kill.

dont forget foxrod...cody's car is now capable of mid 13s, since he has Stage 2!! *scary movie sounds as stage 2 is spoken*

i always thought they would put up a good fight, i guess not. Good kill, those cars are oogly !!

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dont forget foxrod...cody's car is now capable of mid 13s, since he has Stage 2!! *scary movie sounds as stage 2 is spoken*



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But wait when I say that I have a HP Performance Turbo kit and upgraded to the STAGE 2 *scary movie sounds* do I get the drama. Oh wait I guess I just did. :D

there was one at the track with a big fartcan and a tool driver and he was running high 15's and 16's all day....Not even joking either!!!!! lol @ cobalt driver

i think that ill call my cam "stage 2" from now on...:D

*scary movie music*

most mustangs shouldn't have a problem with cavaliers. first its civics and neons, and now its cavaliers. hmmm, i am guessing its tercels next.

does toyota still make the tercel?

stage 2 cam eh??? well i have the stage 2 k&n filter, stage II catback (LOL), and stage 3 h-pipe!

i dont have catback or an h pipe...:D

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does toyota still make the tercel?



No, the Yaris and the Scion Xa's have replaced the Tercel and the Echo.

are you the toyota employee? i know that someone here is..

my area has ALOT of riced out scions..[:'(]

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cobalts are slow...

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So one of my friends just got a supercharged Cobalt SS and apparently he thought it could run with/take my 2000 GT. So obviously I had to shut him up. We finally got to race a couple days ago. We went 6 times in a row from a dig and I killed him every time. His excuse was "I kept missing 3rd". Right. And he actually knows how to drive, so for anyone who is wondering...yes, Cobalts are slow. Shocking, isn't it?


did that kid just get the car? i think hes supposed to drive it 1000 miles first to work in the supercharger on those queerbolts.
oh well way to show that p.o.s up

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cobalts are slow...

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Agreed, Nice Kill

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are you the toyota employee? i know that someone here is..

my area has ALOT of riced out scions..[:'(]



Yep. But not for long. Thank GOD. [sm=hail.gif]. I'll be moving to a Blue Oval Dealership soon. :D And I'll get to work on the cars instead of explain to ignorant people that want to know what each function does in the car instead of actually understanding what genious an internal combustion motor is. I'm sorry to rant but people that find a back up sensor amazing over the fact that there is so much genious under the hood just irratates the piss outta me.

Foxrod what part of florida are you in.

The South Part. [sm=icon_rofl.gif] j/k. I'm in the Ft.Lauderdale, Davie, Weston, Pembroke Pines area. Where are you at?


Edit: Duh, Dumb question. Champ 561 West Palm

Yeah I am in West Palm beach. Do you make the journey to moroso?

here we go.......i killed 4 of these things so far, they dont give up, usually some tool with his girlfriend......one ran at my track managed to hit a 10.4 in the 1/8th:D

Yeah guys. They suck. I was reading that freakin long thread about the Cobalt SS that CodySS or whatever his name is kept getting owned in. Funny stuff. I drove the Cobalt. Extremely unimpressive to say the least. The only time you can actually feel it making boost is 1st gear. After that it's about as exciting as my girlfriend's 99 Taurus. Apparently 12psi isn't as much as we all thought...

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Yeah I am in West Palm beach. Do you make the journey to moroso?



Haven't been in a while. And before you ask, no I haven't ran it since the turbo kit is on. And unfortunately I won't be able to for a while. Can't pass tech. Too many oil leaks and I haven't put my External battery cut-off switch on yet.

Stupid NHRA Rules. ha ha ha

I drove out there when I first got my car (30 minute drive) and couldnt run cause I have a sun roof and didnt bring a helmet.

Don't you love the NHRA Rules? ha ha ha. That's wierd though because I know a few F-bodies with T-tops that didn't need a helmet. I think that guy was just being a d*ck with you. I've never heard that rule before. I thought the only requirement of a helmet is if you ran a 13.5 or better.

My buddy brang his s4 up there and had to were a helmet because he had a sun roof. Who knows though those guys can be fags some times.

at my track you need a helmet if you run faster than a 8.6 1/8th.......that includes sunroofs, T- tops Convertables etc.

Its not a big deal, I just wish they would sell head socks and rent helmets.

NHRA and IHRA sanctioned tracks should require a helmet for anything faster than 13.99.

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Its not a big deal, I just wish they would sell head socks and rent helmets.


They do rent helmets but I wouldn't stick my head in those sweaty a$$ things. Not even with a Head sock on. [:'(]

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NHRA and IHRA sanctioned tracks should require a helmet for anything faster than 13.99.



Bahhh. I was close enough. Mr. Perfect. ha ha ha ha j/k

Thats true the head sock wont stop aweat. Do you know if you have to have any kind of visor, cause I have my bmx helmet fro when I used to race bikes.

some places really bust balls about having snell rated helmets, but at some tracks, ive seen guys running in the 11s with old ratty dirtbike helmets..

for you guys who need helmets, check out online motorcycle suppliers...i got my dad a new helmet for christmas since hes running the white car now, and i have an older bell full face helmet...except i was dicking around one night on the street and when i launched hard, the helmet smacked against the area where the back seat should be...and broke the visor..i never bothered to replace it.

anyway, my dads helmet is pretty nice, and it only cost like 70 bucks or so...motorcycle places usually have nice helmets on clearance, you just have to check to see if they have your size. i would have bought myself a new one when i got my dads, but they didnt have anything to fit me, with the exception of new, very expensive helmets.

Uhhhhhhhh Correct me if I'm wrong but BMX are not DOT and Snell approved are they? You don't need a visor. You can get an open face helmet that is approved by all sanctioning tracks as long as you don't go under a certain speed. Once you hit a certain speed or time in the 1/4 mile, you need a full face helmet

i dont think that you need a full face helmet unless youre into the 9s, or youre running a rail car...but dont quote me on that, as neither of those rules apply to me.

BMX helmets are probably not approved by anything...some tracks will let you slide with a DOT approved helmet, but some are tough about it and require snell 2000 or better...some require snell 95 (i think thats what the next older rating is). mine is a snell 2000.

some tracks dont know what is going on, so you have to be ready for just about anything. i had a track about two years ago not even ask for a helmet when i told them that it ran mid 12s, but they bitched that i didnt have long wheel studs on the front...so they gave me the "next time you have to have long studs on the front"...meanwhile, there was a probe IN MY CLASS who ran with the hood open, and he only had 3 lugnuts on each of the front wheels...he told us that it was to reduce weight..and no, im not kidding...[:@]

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...meanwhile, there was a probe IN MY CLASS who ran with the hood open, and he only had 3 lugnuts on each of the front wheels...he told us that it was to reduce weight..and no, im not kidding...[:@]




AHHHHHHHH haha ha ha ha ha. Lugnuts = weight reduction. ha ha ha haha

Yeah when I went to the Moroso track they wouldn't let me run because I was in shorts. I had to buy some plain sweat pants for $12. Anyone know why shorts aren't allowed?

In case of extreme cases of a fire breaking out they want you covered for some reason. I told the guy one time that I can't shift good with pants cuz the pedals are too close together and I snag the pant leg and he said tough sh*t. Plus if a fire breaks out I don't want something that can catch on fire and have more chance of my legs being completely fried.

Whats up with all these slugbolt SS threads popping up lately???

The rule about wearing long pants is an odd one. I've been out to Moroso on several occaisions over the years and noticed a difference between some of the guys working the track.

I think some guys are more lax about the rules than others. My freind ran his lexus out there and it had a sun roof but they didnt say anything.

This thread is hilarious.

Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.

I missed 3rd more than a few times until I got used to the cable shifter feel. It's alot different than a T-56 ot T-3650 direct shifter.

And ursslow the SS/SC doesn't need to build boost it's supercharged, tire spin is what makes it slow off the line.

So long story short no matter what any jackass here thinks a stock SS/SC still runs low-mid 14's at 97-100mph thats right on par with a 99-04 GT.

SS/SC w/bad driver < GT w/good driver
SS/SC w/good driver > GT w/bad driver
SS/SC w/good driver = GT w/good driver

From a roll the GT will just plain lose unless the SS/SC driver misses 4th and 5th.

Oh thats right now I remember your the guy with the SuperHero car!!![8D]

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Oh thats right now I remember your the guy with the SuperHero car!!![8D]


that was running 14.2s..rumor has it that he got into the 13s with stage 2...but i dont know that the rumor has been confirmed...

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Oh thats right now I remember your the guy with the SuperHero car!!![8D]


that was running 14.2s..rumor has it that he got into the 13s with stage 2...*scary movie sounds* but i dont know that the rumor has been confirmed...


Fixed it for ya :D

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Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.




Haha. Yeah. Right. I obviously posted this so you would read it. All for you.

And by the way, out of the SIX times we raced, one time was from a roll. To about 120. Guess what? I still won. You sad bastard.

So Cody you're telling me that if you have it in 3rd gear cruising and doing 35 and you just put it to the floor and it will just flat out go? No. Been there done that.

if youre in the wrong gear for sudden acceleration, no car will just get up and go...but superchargers dont lag...

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if youre in the wrong gear for sudden acceleration, no car will just get up and go...but superchargers dont lag...
Yea but to sit there and say it's because of tire spin is beyond retarded. Hell GT's spin to. Let them use that excuse. Driver for Driver a 99 to 04 GT is quicker from a dig but closer from a roll but who cares but yeah you always find a bad driver.

but with a "performance fwd" (and im using that term loosely) the weight transfer is working against you...hell, my daily driver is an ATX with 210ish hp, and if i launch it hard (as hard as i can with an atx) it spins the tires, and my car only runs high 15s/low 16s. while the GT also has traction issues, the weight transfer is working in the drivers advantage.
any fwd car with enough power to break traction will have more traction issues in comparison to a RWD car.

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This thread is hilarious.

Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.

I missed 3rd more than a few times until I got used to the cable shifter feel. It's alot different than a T-56 ot T-3650 direct shifter.

And ursslow the SS/SC doesn't need to build boost it's supercharged, tire spin is what makes it slow off the line.

So long story short no matter what any jackass here thinks a stock SS/SC still runs low-mid 14's at 97-100mph thats right on par with a 99-04 GT.

SS/SC w/bad driver < GT w/good driver
SS/SC w/good driver > GT w/bad driver
SS/SC w/good driver = GT w/good driver

From a roll the GT will just plain lose unless the SS/SC driver misses 4th and 5th.




Your so pathetic cody.

Of all the Coblat vs GT videos I have seen, I have NEVER seen a stock GT go down to one from a roll or a dig.

You CANNOT run with a SRT-4 from a roll, and I have seen a couple 5spd GTs do this or stick pretty dammed close.

IF you have john force in the gaybalt and my grandma in the GT then the coblat will come out on top. unfortunatly for you john force wouldn't be caught dead in one.

GT > coblat + a truckload of naked girls

Edit: Your OUT of your mind if you think a 14.50 is "on par" with a stock 5spd GT. You are comparing terrible GT drivers against the 2 or 3 people that can sratch out a 14.50 (instead of the typical 14.90+) with the coblat. Anyone that cannot drive a GT to at least a 14.2-14.1 simply doesn't know how to drive a car on the strip.

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This thread is hilarious.

Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.

I missed 3rd more than a few times until I got used to the cable shifter feel. It's alot different than a T-56 ot T-3650 direct shifter.

And ursslow the SS/SC doesn't need to build boost it's supercharged, tire spin is what makes it slow off the line.

So long story short no matter what any jackass here thinks a stock SS/SC still runs low-mid 14's at 97-100mph thats right on par with a 99-04 GT.

SS/SC w/bad driver < GT w/good driver
SS/SC w/good driver > GT w/bad driver
SS/SC w/good driver = GT w/good driver

From a roll the GT will just plain lose unless the SS/SC driver misses 4th and 5th.




Your so pathetic cody.

Of all the Coblat vs GT videos I have seen, I have NEVER seen a stock GT go down to one from a roll or a dig.

You CANNOT run with a SRT-4 from a roll, and I have seen a couple 5spd GTs do this or stick pretty dammed close.

IF you have john force in the gaybalt and my grandma in the GT then the coblat will come out on top. unfortunatly for you john force wouldn't be caught dead in one.

GT > coblat + a truckload of naked girls

Edit: Your OUT of your mind if you think a 14.50 is "on par" with a stock 5spd GT. You are comparing terrible GT drivers against the 2 or 3 people that can sratch out a 14.50 (instead of the typical 14.90+) with the coblat. Anyone that cannot drive a GT to at least a 14.2-14.1 simply doesn't know how to drive a car on the strip.


I'm sorry but I have to disagree with the bold part.

Thing is though with equal drivers one who know how to launch the GT and one who knows how to launch the SS/SC it would be a drivers race.

And Ursslow do you know what your talking about, you think wheelspin isn't the hold back from a dig? Of course the GT has wheel spin but no where near what a S/C FWD experiences. I had a 2003 GT and the only time I spun as much as my SS/SC was when I was trying to.

And will everyone please stop with the SS/SC run high 14's BS

Your funny 2000GT4.6

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Thing is though with equal drivers one who know how to launch the GT and one who knows how to launch the SS/SC it would be a drivers race.

And Ursslow do you know what your talking about, you think wheelspin isn't the hold back from a dig? Of course the GT has wheel spin but no where near what a S/C FWD experiences. I had a 2003 GT and the only time I spun as much as my SS/SC was when I was trying to.

And will everyone please stop with the SS/SC run high 14's BS

Your funny 2000GT4.6


IF YOU QUIT WITH THE A 99-04 RUNS A MID 14 BS

Definately...it's more like mid 15's you dummy!






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[8D]

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Thing is though with equal drivers one who know how to launch the GT and one who knows how to launch the SS/SC it would be a drivers race.

And Ursslow do you know what your talking about, you think wheelspin isn't the hold back from a dig? Of course the GT has wheel spin but no where near what a S/C FWD experiences. I had a 2003 GT and the only time I spun as much as my SS/SC was when I was trying to.

And will everyone please stop with the SS/SC run high 14's BS

Your funny 2000GT4.6


No, a slowbalt will NOT run with a GT if the drivers are equal. And MOST slowbalts ARE running 14.8~ not the mid/low 14s you claim. Lets see ONE video of a slowbalt running a 14.0 on the stock tires......

A good GT driver should see a 14.0 or 14.1. A awsome slowblat driver might see a 14.50 if he is lucky, with a hell of a 60' (for a slowbalt anyway)

BTW, so now not only have you owned a LT1, LS1, and a vette, but a GT too eh?? BS.

your so full of ****.

if i may...while i wont agree that a slowbalt is equal to a new edge GT, there are ALOT of new edge GT owners here who would be happy to get near a 13 stock...

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if i may...while i wont agree that a slowbalt is equal to a new edge GT, there are ALOT of new edge GT owners here who would be happy to get near a 13 stock...


Granted. There are also alot of new edge GT drivers that cannot drive :)

And there are ALOT of slowbalt drivers out there that would cum in their pants to pull off a 14.50.....

If you can't drive a 99-04 GT 5spd coupe to at LEAST a 14.40 you need to go back to drivers ed. Even without powershifting etc it is easily capable of this. A slowbalt is not.

I am not attempting to say that a GT > all, not by any means. But I would rather have a 99 GT with 100,000 miles on it than a brand new gaybalt.

eh..to each their own..one of my friends back home opted for a slowbalt over a new Z...but he loves his cavalier...i wouldnt drive one, because im not fooled...this car could have just as easily been named the cavalier SS...

the cavabalt drivers will say "there are no common parts" but theyre made in the same plant, and there was little retooling. the previous square cavaliers were vastly different from the last gen cavalier, but they were both still a cavalier..so i guess that if some people can look past the fact that they drive a renamed, new gen cavalier, so be it...its for that reason, and the cheap ass interior and such, that i didnt buy an srt4.

the cobalt would beat a 2000gt from a roll. from a dig thats a different story. the 2000's had less hp than the 2001's up. if the cobalt had slicks then it would be close until the mustang got into 3rd and then the cobalt's top end comes in. ive seen a cobalt stay next to a 1999 cobra from 45 up and that was a 100% stock cobalt ss.

those are some whacked out facts man..lol

99-04 is the exact same GT.. so saying it would beat one but not the other is insane..

and there is no way a cobalt is gonna hang with a 320 hp cobra FROM A ROLL

i will say that perhaps, from a high (50mph +) roll , a cobalt ss might be close or on par with a 99-04 STOCK GT, but thats it,

99-00 have less compression.9 to 1 while 01-04's have 9 to 4. the thing is it depends on the driver to.

99-00 have less compression.

but the exact same HP and exact same 1/4

more the compression on a NA motor the more power it makes. simple mechanics.lol

to bad you read to much. get out there on the street and try that fact.

*sigh*

a 99-04 is the exact same man, i dont care about compression,, both dyno 225's to the wheels in a manual, and can run a 14.0-14.3 with a good driver

i had a friend that had a 99gt that had mid-pipe and catback and intake. i beat him with my 2001 gt that just had catback.

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99-00 have less compression.9 to 1 while 01-04's have 9 to 4. the thing is it depends on the driver to.



wow you really are smoking crack. There is ZERO difference between a 99-00 and a 01+.

Also, it will not be a drivers race from a roll or a stop.

what mods do u have 72MachOne99GT?

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i had a friend that had a 99gt that had mid-pipe and catback and intake. i beat him with my 2001 gt that just had catback.


rofl this has NOTHING to do with your compression ratios. Not only is there a difference driver to driver, but there will always be a difference in cars, even ones that are exactly the same.

Look at LS1s. I have heard of them dynoing 320+ WHP, and others dynoing inthe 280 range, with the same trans/year/everything.

I dunno who told ya about the compression ratios but they were wrong.

this is the page i think. 99's have lower compression than 2000-2004. 2000 had the same compression but different belt tensioner so there is a difference somewhat lol.

http://www.modulardepot.com/modspecs.php#01

well 2000, i do remember seeing somewhere there is a slight compression difference, but it is nothing that matters any,,

all 99-04's are drivers race, if you beat a 99 with catback and midpipe and you had just a catback, you beat a car that MIGHT have had 2-3 more hp than you

if they were different transmissions from one another, then it negates the mods

ive got a 99GT
4.10's, MT DR's, o/r H, Borla Catback, K&N filter w/ silencer removed..

i MIGHT be making 335 to the wheels, adn i ran a dissapointing 14.086@99.09 w/ 2.05 60'

yes, that is LOUSY, but its not because of my compressino..lol

335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.

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this is the page i think. 99's have lower compression than 2000-2004. 2000 had the same compression but different belt tensioner so there is a difference somewhat lol.

http://www.modulardepot.com/modspecs.php#01


check out that page closely and they ahve the same compression ratio for the 98s as they do the 99s. I am 99.99 percent sure it is a typo.

there are a few minor diferences in the cars (IAT sensor location, size of the bungs on the intake, etc etc) but the average 99 will run with the average 04 all things being equal. Also, the eariler cars had a t-45 and the newer ones have a 3650 with a slightly different 5th gear ratio.

Thats not what got your buddies car beat though. Either you car simply ran better from the factory or you outdrove em.

and I dunno wtf was with the cobra vs coblat race you saw. Something was up, cause a coblat definatly will not run door to door with a 99 cobra stock to stock

EDIT: The more I look at it hte more that page is screwed up. It also shows some funky ass number for the t/b on the 99s. I definatly know that the 99 T/b is exactly the same as the 2000. It also shows the 2000 has a bigger combustion chamber and the same piston but a higher compression ratio? WTF?

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This thread is hilarious.

Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.

I missed 3rd more than a few times until I got used to the cable shifter feel. It's alot different than a T-56 ot T-3650 direct shifter.

And ursslow the SS/SC doesn't need to build boost it's supercharged, tire spin is what makes it slow off the line.

So long story short no matter what any jackass here thinks a stock SS/SC still runs low-mid 14's at 97-100mph thats right on par with a 99-04 GT.

SS/SC w/bad driver < GT w/good driver
SS/SC w/good driver > GT w/bad driver
SS/SC w/good driver = GT w/good driver

From a roll the GT will just plain lose unless the SS/SC driver misses 4th and 5th.





harumph.

i dont know if u know this buuuut.... cobolts are slow, and of course gay. it doesnt matter the type of race

335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.

dude, youre an idiot....
if youre talking about a stock cobalt running a 14.0, youre retarded,, im pretty sure youer just being a troll alright..

i have to go to work now so any smart or witty remarks you make, im not going to be here to defnd myself from your randomness

my car is VERY capable of a 13.6 as it sits, i just have to drive better,
have a good night

idk i thought it was weird to. the thing is the cobalt had a little more momentom than the cobra did. i was suprised to. you should of seen the kid in the cobra. his face was priceless. lol.

aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.

when did mach ever say he could beat cody?

Mach's car should run a mid/high 13 with a good driver.

What I love about this thread is that cody instantly claims it was a ****ty driver. If a slowbalt driver goes down it was the driver, if they manage to hold a GT within a carlength it was the super duper coblat ss

Wow I log out for acouple hours and the slugbolt thread gets 4 pages long[:-]

HAHA.

ill say this, looks wise, i like the Cobalt's. performance wise, no. id rather have an SRT-4 ANY DAY. they look better, and it seems to me like they take to mods better. plus, i like Mopars anyway. BUT, the Cobalts do seem to be gettin more of an aftermarket support for 'em, so, im sure theyll be just as good as an SRT-4 eventually, if not already.

still around here all the 1999-2004 mustang GT's were beat by codyss when he was stock. i hosted the races. i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.

im not bashing him, nor have i ever, IF youre referring to me....if not, disregard that comment.;)

oh i get it now, ur a cody defender. or maybe you got on another IP and you have to defend urself that cobalts are better than GT's. sad.

I will say this though, cody

I STILL HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE DAMN DYNO SHEET OF THIS CLAIMED 270 HP SO UNTIL YOU POST IT YOUR FULL OF IT!

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still around here all the 1999-2004 mustang GT's were beat by codyss when he was stock. i hosted the races. i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.


either he was bsin you about his car, or all he ran into were GTs with terrible drivers. I have NEVER seen a coblat stock beat a 99-04. Around here they don't even bother to try anymore till they have a few mods.

I dunno if the comment was directed at me personally, but I would hate to see what would happen in a race between me and cody, and thats for cody's ego's sake.

Maybe if cody didn't come on here with such an additude people would respect him anymore.

Regardless, I still want someone to explain to me how a coblat is supposed to be waxing a 99-04 from a stop or a roll, but they can't even dream of hanging with a SRT-4 stock for stock. I have seen quite a few srt-4 vs GT videos and they seem about 1/2 and 1/2, even from a roll.....

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99-00 have less compression.9 to 1 while 01-04's have 9 to 4. the thing is it depends on the driver to.


Never heard of a 9 to 4 compression ratio before.

2001 Mustang GT

Nitrous, CROWER stage2 CAMs, stage2 HEADS, KB2.2L.

engine almost done

So, you have nitrous and a 2.2L KB on a stock bottom end? Man you are just asking for a blown engine.

i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.

This coming from a guy who also drive a Mustang?
So, with all your mods, what times are you running there buddy? How bout you post up a timeslip or dyno sheet or something?

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aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.


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335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.


because of your lack of typing skills, I thought you meant 'had' like, back when he was stock. I never claimed to be able to beat a 'claimed' 270 WHP car that weighed under 4K pounds.

You need to get off the OTHER GUYS high horse and come to terms with reality.

According to you, and SS:

Cobalt runs (stock vs stock) on par with a SRT-4 (despite the obvious hp difference)
New Edge GT gets destroyed be an SRT-4
yet.....
Cobalt (with good driver) is a drivers race with a new edge GT

so how can Cobalt=SRT-4
and SRT>GT,, yet...
GT=SS??

im not saying a Cavabolt SS is an absolute slug. Apparently, like most stock boosted cars, it has great potential when compared to a N/A 2v 4.6 (big whoop, nowadays, what doesnt) but youre still in dream world if you think STOCK EQUALLY DRIVEN 99-04 GT's are equal to a Cobalt SS

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

ORIGINAL: redstanger

aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.


ORIGINAL: redstanger

335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.


because of your lack of typing skills, I thought you meant 'had' like, back when he was stock. I never claimed to be able to beat a 'claimed' 270 WHP car that weighed under 4K pounds.

You need to get off the OTHER GUYS high horse and come to terms with reality.

According to you, and SS:

Cobalt runs (stock vs stock) on par with a SRT-4 (despite the obvious hp difference)
New Edge GT gets destroyed be an SRT-4
yet.....
Cobalt (with good driver) is a drivers race with a new edge GT

so how can Cobalt=SRT-4
and SRT>GT,, yet...
GT=SS??

im not saying a Cavabolt SS is an absolute slug. Apparently, like most stock boosted cars, it has great potential when compared to a N/A 2v 4.6 (big whoop, nowadays, what doesnt) but youre still in dream world if you think STOCK EQUALLY DRIVEN 99-04 GT's are equal to a Cobalt SS


+1

Me have an attitude? Lets get things straight here!

A) Cobalt / G4 /Pursuit ride on a Delta chassis not J-Body like the Cavaliers

B) The Delta chassis makes the SN197 chassis look/feel weak

C) I am only an a$$hole to those who think there slow a$$ stock GT can hang with my car
without any effort. If you drive a near stock GT and win a roll race with a SS/SC you
got lucky because you didn't win due to HP, gears or anything else you beat the driver.

D) Enough with the sure you had this car or that car, look at my phot page you damn idiots.

E) A stock SS/SC is more than capable of low 14's, no matter what some of you brainless
morons want to belive. To every one SS/SC in the high 14's theres 20 GT's anyone who says
differently is stupid. Not every SS/SC owner can drive and nor can every GT owner.

F) The attitude that some of you have is what makes smoking a GT all that much more fun!!!

Cody, I understand your argument here and all, but how many people on this board actually have stock GT's? Personally, I can't think of any. So, the whole stock vs. stock thing is a moot point here. You're not stock, and neither would be most GT's you would meet up with on the street or at the track.

the delta chassis is just the J-body chassis renamed...they did it with all of their models. you honestly dont see the REMARKABLE resemblance between the cavalier and the cobalt?

if the cavalier didnt have such a reputation as a bitch car, they would have just named this new slug the cavalier, but they are trying DESPERATELY to change their overall image, but its not working.

also, you go on and on about how the cavalier SS/SC is capable of this and that, yet all you can produce is a few random owners, and magazines? where are your better-than-Gt timeslips cody?

youre absolutely right..not every GT drive can drive the car well, but like it or not, the mustang is a sports car, and the cobalt is just the next installment of a cheap ass economy coupe...its what people who dont want a sedan, and dont REALLY care about performance get instead of the srt-4.

people give you crap because you are the #1 paper racer...you go on and on about what your mighty car is capable of, yet you have nothing to back it up. and dont get into the "i dont have to prove anything to anyone" crap...thats a cop out. just because your car can beat some poorly driven new edge GTs, doesnt mean that the CAR is faster with equal drivers.
hell, my car has put down better times than stock terminators, but i dont go around here telling people with 03-04 cobras that my caris faster...except for hisss, but he deserves it...

and to make matters worse for your arguing point, you are now bickering with the other SS/SC owner here and he claims that being in the wrong gear creates supercharger lag? :D

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

the delta chassis is just the J-body chassis renamed...they did it with all of their models. you honestly dont see the REMARKABLE resemblance between the cavalier and the cobalt?

if the cavalier didnt have such a reputation as a bitch car, they would have just named this new slug the cavalier, but they are trying DESPERATELY to change their overall image, but its not working.

also, you go on and on about how the cavalier SS/SC is capable of this and that, yet all you can produce is a few random owners, and magazines? where are your better-than-Gt timeslips cody?

youre absolutely right..not every GT drive can drive the car well, but like it or not, the mustang is a sports car, and the cobalt is just the next installment of a cheap ass economy coupe...its what people who dont want a sedan, and dont REALLY care about performance get instead of the srt-4.

people give you crap because you are the #1 paper racer...you go on and on about what your mighty car is capable of, yet you have nothing to back it up. and dont get into the "i dont have to prove anything to anyone" crap...thats a cop out. just because your car can beat some poorly driven new edge GTs, doesnt mean that the CAR is faster with equal drivers.
hell, my car has put down better times than stock terminators, but i dont go around here telling people with 03-04 cobras that my caris faster...except for hisss, but he deserves it...

and to make matters worse for your arguing point, you are now bickering with the other SS/SC owner here and he claims that being in the wrong gear creates supercharger lag? :D



thank you! someone finally said it. idk where cody is getting his info from. i think like 2 months ago 98LS1 posted a cobalt dyno that had the cobalts making more power to the wheels than what chevy said, that was the only factual proof ive seen of the cava....err cobalts being just as fast or faster than GT's. cody, you should really back up what ur saying before u go on and on. and where the heck did u get the thing about the new J-body platform being soo much better than the S197 chasis?? LOL

with a professional driver, cobalts have put down times better, or as good as, new edge GTs.

thats codys whole arguement right there, he thinks every cobalt driver is a professional drivers and GT drivers suck at life, hence the "yea cobalts can easliy beat 99-04 GT's" comments. like 3 cobalts get a low 14 sec time and to cody every cobalt is a low 14 sec car, kinda like how if u put a pro driver in a GT, hell probably get 13's wit no problem

ORIGINAL: codyss

Me have an attitude? Lets get things straight here!

A) Cobalt / G4 /Pursuit ride on a Delta chassis not J-Body like the Cavaliers

B) The Delta chassis makes the SN197 chassis look/feel weak

C) I am only an a$$hole to those who think there slow a$$ stock GT can hang with my car without any effort. If you drive a near stock GT and win a roll race with a SS/SC you
got lucky because you didn't win due to HP, gears or anything else you beat the driver.

D) Enough with the sure you had this car or that car, look at my phot page you damn idiots.

E) A stock SS/SC is more than capable of low 14's, no matter what some of you brainless
morons want to belive. To every one SS/SC in the high 14's theres 20 GT's anyone who says
differently is stupid. Not every SS/SC owner can drive and nor can every GT owner.

F) The attitude that some of you have is what makes smoking a GT all that much more fun!!!



ROFL

Seriously, you are such a moron. WHERE in the hell off WHAT ricer forum did you get this about your "delta" chassis against the S197. There isn't a circut track in the world where the S197 wouldn't wipe the floor with your mighty "delta" chassis, and it wieghs hundreds more pounds than you.

Did you want me to upload a couple more photos to my photo page, I think I have a ford GT and a couple viper picutres scanned out of magazines onthere, jsut like your LS1 ones.

Seriously, didn't you say you either traded your vette or LS1 car for your coblat?? Riiiggghhhttt...

And I have seen plenty of GT guys with consistant 2.1-2.2 60's in the 14.40~ range, but I have never seen anyone that could drive consistantly ET i the 14.60+ range. This is what ALL the coblats around here ET.

Once again, lets see ONE video where they show a underhood shot and the tires beforehand or even CLAIM to have a stock coblat, and then lets see it beat a new edge GT or run a 13.90 in the 1/4 mile. You are claiming that a good driver can drive a blat equally with a new edge, and i have seen at least a few non professional (just dammed good) drivers rape a all stock GT into the high 13s.....

Your just a joke dude. Your car is slow, and unless you put insane amounts of money into it it will always be so.

And frankly, what do you want coming on a mustang forum? You don't see me camping out on www.coblatforums.com do you ? If I did, well hell I would probably be their hero for having a car in the 12s, but still they would hate me. [sm=badbadbad.gif]

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/cobalt/1/043196E3-6985-42D6-8F11-87C301098BCD.htm
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/cobalt/3/46B10A60-9836-4C9B-948C-7724EFEC9C58.htm

2000GT4.6 your stupidity is hilarious.

Look at the pictures ace, there all taken in the same spot and have NE plates. I would post all of my NE registrations that I kept but you aren't worth the time or effort.


And Ride of the Month you are completely wrong the Delta chassis was all new to the states when the Saturn ION came out. It was also used on the Opel Astra a year before then too. It shares nothing with the J-Body platform except maybe some screws or bolts, look under a cobalt. There are no old style sub frames it has two fully boxed channels per side that everything attaches to, it's as close to a full frame as you can get.

!!!!!!!!!!!!! UPDATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY 20004.6GT TAKE A PEEK AT MY PHOTO PAGE LINK

BET I GOT ALL THOSE OFF THE INTERNET, HUH

NOW **** OFF

so were supposed to be impressed that you REALLY have a cobalt?

No the jackass made some comments that I pulled pictures off the internet and never had 2 LS1's.

Codyss how much does your cobalt cost?

E) A stock SS/SC is more than capable of low 14's, no matter what some of you brainless
morons want to belive. To every one SS/SC in the high 14's theres 20 GT's anyone who says
differently is stupid. Not every SS/SC owner can drive and nor can every GT owner.

This is true, but this is because of 2 reasons.

1. The GT's that run high 14's are not driven to the car's potential, while the Cobalt running high 14's would be with a pretty decent driver.

2. There are a LOT more Mustang GT's then there are Cobalts.

That's all. :D

ORIGINAL: codyss

No the jackass made some comments that I pulled pictures off the internet and never had 2 LS1's.


Why in the HELL would you ever trade any LS1 for a slowbalt.

I live in Phoenix, ~3600ft elevation. It was 85 degrees outside and I ran a 14.33 bone-stock (I bought the car from a little old lady 3 days before) with a dirty air filter.

I would love to see your so-called Stage2 Cobalt better it. The fastest Cobalt I've seen when at the track ran a 15.3. That is a full second slower than me. Just some little information

I remember back awhile ago when cody was saying that he ran a 14.4 stock, and that was good, because most SS drivers were high 14's and low 15's

now, nearly all competently driven cobalts can beat a 14.0-14.2 GT..which is pretty good
the cobalts must have broken in pretty good to get over a half second for most drivers

and you HAVE to compare a stock to stock comparison,,, after that, its all up in the air, you can start bitching about money spent, or power to the ground, or better supsension..blah blah..

stock to stock is the only 'fair' argument left (and also assume equal drivers)

ORIGINAL: codyss

2000GT4.6 your stupidity is hilarious.

Look at the pictures ace, there all taken in the same spot and have NE plates. I would post all of my NE registrations that I kept but you aren't worth the time or effort.


And Ride of the Month you are completely wrong the Delta chassis was all new to the states when the Saturn ION came out. It was also used on the Opel Astra a year before then too. It shares nothing with the J-Body platform except maybe some screws or bolts, look under a cobalt. There are no old style sub frames it has two fully boxed channels per side that everything attaches to, it's as close to a full frame as you can get.

!!!!!!!!!!!!! UPDATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HEY 20004.6GT TAKE A PEEK AT MY PHOTO PAGE LINK

BET I GOT ALL THOSE OFF THE INTERNET, HUH

NOW **** OFF


Wow you really proved me wrong there! Rofl.

I have some pics of my buddies Ls1 sitting in my driveway next to my GT. Wait, I mean its my LS1.... hell the plates are from IL where I used to live.

Even if you did own a couple LS1s, all that proves is your a total moron for getting rid of them to buy a blat. Great move there, trade in or sell a car for less than what it costs to buy a new one that runs slower modified with your "stage 2" stuff than they did stock.

ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

I remember back awhile ago when cody was saying that he ran a 14.4 stock, and that was good, because most SS drivers were high 14's and low 15's

now, nearly all competently driven cobalts can beat a 14.0-14.2 GT..which is pretty good
the cobalts must have broken in pretty good to get over a half second for most drivers

and you HAVE to compare a stock to stock comparison,,, after that, its all up in the air, you can start bitching about money spent, or power to the ground, or better supsension..blah blah..

stock to stock is the only 'fair' argument left (and also assume equal drivers)


+1

And you don't really have to compare stock to stock though. How about the fastest street driven coblat vs the fastest street driven 99-04 GT :)

Hell, what is the fastest coblat out there? have they even broken into the 11s on street tires??

And you don't really have to compare stock to stock though. How about the fastest street driven coblat vs the fastest street driven 99-04 GT :)

Hell, what is the fastest coblat out there? have they even broken into the 11s on street tires??

thats true, BUT even I will agree that a SS Cavabot is probably more receptive to mods than a 2V 4.6, and probably cheaper as well

but then again, i didnt really think about the fastest street Stang vs Cavabolt either..

if i were to create a catchy ad announcement for the car, i think it would be somethign like this....
"are you, or were you ever a ricer? have you ever dreamed of owning a 4 cylinder car that accomplishes the quarter mile in under 16 seconds? are you too cheap to buy a SRT-4? then come to your nearest chevy dealer and look at our new and improved, Cobalt SS. Owning up to its historical, and not to mention nastalgic nameplate, the Cobalt SS bolts down the 1320 in a mere 14.5 seconds, while at the same time, saving you gas mileage and becoming the envy of all your ricer friends. So stop by your nearest chevy dealer today, and become a 'cool' ricer."

(not to mention DESTROY new edge stangs)

Hey 20004.6GT do you also happen to have the window sticker, bill of sale and registration all of which are in your name? Didn't think so bitch.

And will everyone quit saying a 99-04 GT runs 14.0-14.1 stock they don't.

Take a stock 99-04 GT run it 3 times, if there was $1000 on the line it still wouldn't run a 14.0 once.

14.0 in a stock GT is just like a 12.9 second stock LS1 just because it happens a couple of times doesn't set the standard.

And anyone who can do better than 14.6 in a stock SS/SC sucks and should be driving a LS or V6 Mustang.

ORIGINAL: codyss

Hey 20004.6GT do you also happen to have the window sticker, bill of sale and registration all of which are in your name? Didn't think so bitch.

And will everyone quit saying a 99-04 GT runs 14.0-14.1 stock they don't.

Take a stock 99-04 GT run it 3 times, if there was $1000 on the line it still wouldn't run a 14.0 once.

14.0 in a stock GT is just like a 12.9 second stock LS1 just because it happens a couple of times doesn't set the standard.

And anyone who can do better than 14.6 in a stock SS/SC sucks and should be driving a LS or V6 Mustang.




Ummm...that doesn't make sense. Don't you mean can't?

stand down with the name calling cody, or ill show you the door. :)

youre a guest here, act like one.

ahem.. Cobalt SS = more money then Srt4. I know the one I test drove was. Also, it had a 6k markup from the dealer! Personally I don't mind the Cobalt SS's - I've gotten into it with a couple of them and one modified one - and it wasn't a real race against my Stang, but they're not to bad I guess if that's what you're looking for. but for god sakes, someone needs to call Chevy and tell them to change the wheels on that car, those are hideous.

But when I test drove one I can say, it had good pickup - and the clutch/shifter was very nice. I just don't get a 200hp/200lb tor. car that weighs 2800 lbs.. keeping up with a 260hp/305tor, 3300 lb car. - I don't think 500lbs makes up for 60hp/100+ lb ft of tor., the power/weight makes it close, a lot closer to what it should be, but think of it this way. It's about the same distance of power and weight between a T/A and a New Edge, and who here really thinks a 99-04GT will beat a stock LS1? - but I believe we've all had this conversation with Cody. I don't know how well those Cobalts respond to mods, but anything with a supercharger responds better to mods then something N/A

Although, I wouldn't mind having his gas milage, haha.
ORIGINAL: 72MachOne99GT

And you don't really have to compare stock to stock though. How about the fastest street driven coblat vs the fastest street driven 99-04 GT :)

Hell, what is the fastest coblat out there? have they even broken into the 11s on street tires??

thats true, BUT even I will agree that a SS Cavabot is probably more receptive to mods than a 2V 4.6, and probably cheaper as well

but then again, i didnt really think about the fastest street Stang vs Cavabolt either..

if i were to create a catchy ad announcement for the car, i think it would be somethign like this....
"are you, or were you ever a ricer? have you ever dreamed of owning a 4 cylinder car that accomplishes the quarter mile in under 16 seconds? are you too cheap to buy a SRT-4? then come to your nearest chevy dealer and look at our new and improved, Cobalt SS. Owning up to its historical, and not to mention nastalgic nameplate, the Cobalt SS bolts down the 1320 in a mere 14.5 seconds, while at the same time, saving you gas mileage and becoming the envy of all your ricer friends. So stop by your nearest chevy dealer today, and become a 'cool' ricer."

(not to mention DESTROY new edge stangs)

ORIGINAL: codyss

Hey 20004.6GT do you also happen to have the window sticker, bill of sale and registration all of which are in your name? Didn't think so bitch.

And will everyone quit saying a 99-04 GT runs 14.0-14.1 stock they don't.

Take a stock 99-04 GT run it 3 times, if there was $1000 on the line it still wouldn't run a 14.0 once.

14.0 in a stock GT is just like a 12.9 second stock LS1 just because it happens a couple of times doesn't set the standard.

And anyone who can do better than 14.6 in a stock SS/SC sucks and should be driving a LS or V6 Mustang.




and will you quit saying that a cobalt ss s/c runs low 14's? run a cobalt ss 3 times and chances are itll run high 14s stock. someone got a 14.3 in a cobalt ss and you say ALL cobalts can get to that and its the standard time for a cobalt ss regardless of anything else, yet when a GT gets to a 13.9 or 14.0 stock, it doesnt set the standard.

you like to contradict urself dont u?

ORIGINAL: codyss

Hey 20004.6GT do you also happen to have the window sticker, bill of sale and registration all of which are in your name? Didn't think so bitch.

And will everyone quit saying a 99-04 GT runs 14.0-14.1 stock they don't.

Take a stock 99-04 GT run it 3 times, if there was $1000 on the line it still wouldn't run a 14.0 once.

14.0 in a stock GT is just like a 12.9 second stock LS1 just because it happens a couple of times doesn't set the standard.

And anyone who can do better than 14.6 in a stock SS/SC sucks and should be driving a LS or V6 Mustang.




I do have all that, but I'm not posting it on the internet. However, I do have mulitple videos with me driving the car and talking to mustangforums about something or other. "bitch" indeed

There are PLENTY of people on this site that have ran a 14.0-14.2 stock.

Wheres your ass at in the "mighty 14.0 coblat" post??? I don't see you commenting on there. Apparently all of the people on streetfire.net need to be driving mustangs/camaros. (hell you would be alot better off that driving a coblat that is for sure)

Hell, MT and road and track got 14.0's out of mustang GTs, and they NEVER get the full ponetial of out a car. Considering they couldn't get a 03 cobra out of the 13s.....

ALso, as dogal said, you seem to set a double standard. You cannot present ONE video of a coblat going 14.0 stock in the 1/4 mile, yet you deny that a GT is capable of doing so even though there is massive evidince to the contrary.

I spent about a hour on streetfire looking, and then about another hour crusing around the coblat forums. I didn't see ONE 1/4 mile claim in their sigs that was better than a 14.4 at stock or close to stock. Hell, most of the "Stage 2" guys where HOPING they could get into the 13s.

You know what really sucks for you though? You have to worry about every mustang that comes up having a couple boltons or a blower. And your thousands and thousands away from being able to beat one. Let alone a LS1 car or a newer vette.

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.

ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.



I call BS

ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.

I agree with most of this Stock I have found that I can run 14.5 consistant. Call me a bad driver if you want I live at 3600ft.

Damn people, chill out lol, codyss is back against the wall... 1. ANYONE is going to defend their car if they like it, hence him retaliating, and starting a thread like this is only going to bring it out obviously, let's be smarter then that. We are a mustang forum and making fun of another person's car isn't very respectable, especially if it IS a respectable car. Cobalts and srt-4's we're the counter to ricer's and they are doing a damn good job at it. Forget who's car run's faster stock because it matters on the driver/surface/dig/roll/distance... take all of those into consideration. Cobalt's are nice cars I mean hell it's supercharged and light what's not to like? All i'm saying is, dont judge a book by it's cover and no one should say cobalts are slower then their GT if they haven't raced one. And on top of that bring PROOF, for all we know it was just some BS topic brought up to flame cody..

thats just my input just like everyone else, dont flame me!

ORIGINAL: headturningV8


ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.



I call BS
Call BS all you want buddy. The guy I did this against ran a 14.21 in the 1/4 mile against me and I ran a 14.5 and he is a good driver. 2 weeks later we were on a straight way and went from a 45 roll and ran until 95 and shut down and I have a fender on him. He is completly stock along with me.

ORIGINAL: 302RideOrDie

Damn people, chill out lol, codyss is back against the wall... 1. ANYONE is going to defend their car if they like it, hence him retaliating, and starting a thread like this is only going to bring it out obviously, let's be smarter then that. We are a mustang forum and making fun of another person's car isn't very respectable, especially if it IS a respectable car. Cobalts and srt-4's we're the counter to ricer's and they are doing a damn good job at it. Forget who's car run's faster stock because it matters on the driver/surface/dig/roll/distance... take all of those into consideration. Cobalt's are nice cars I mean hell it's supercharged and light what's not to like? All i'm saying is, dont judge a book by it's cover and no one should say cobalts are slower then their GT if they haven't raced one. And on top of that bring PROOF, for all we know it was just some BS topic brought up to flame cody..

thats just my input just like everyone else, dont flame me!


I respect what you are trying to do here 302, and I partially agree with what you said about Cody just defending what he drives. But the fact is, and I see that you are very new here and maybe didn't know this, that he is the one who started the original debate (if you can call it that) by making his first post on this forum something about how much faster the Cobalt is, stock for stock, than a 99 - 04 GT. Obviously it has been ongoing since.

ORIGINAL: White2000GT



[quote]

I respect what you are trying to do here 302, and I partially agree with what you said about Cody just defending what he drives. But the fact is, and I see that you are very new here and maybe didn't know this, that he is the one who started the original debate (if you can call it that) by making his first post on this forum something about how much faster the Cobalt is, stock for stock, than a 99 - 04 GT. Obviously it has been ongoing since.


ah, I see. I didn't know that he brought it about... sorry cody, your in it for yourself... my advice, ignore it. If you really believe cobalts can take a gt stock for stock then throw it to the streets not on a MUSTANG forum :)

No worries 302. By the way, that is a nice 5.0 you got there. [sm=icon_cheers.gif]

the expression "close, but no cigar" comes to mind..

I wouldn't be shocked of cavalier SS's were CLOSE to new-edge stangs.. but stock for stock, equal drivers, they're still slower (or less fast, depends on your perspective).



How someone could go from driving a vette to a cobalt, though, is inexplicable. That's like going from dating jessica alba and adriana lima to dating oprah and nicole ritchie. [:'(]

ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

ORIGINAL: headturningV8


ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.



I call BS
Call BS all you want buddy. The guy I did this against ran a 14.21 in the 1/4 mile against me and I ran a 14.5 and he is a good driver. 2 weeks later we were on a straight way and went from a 45 roll and ran until 95 and shut down and I have a fender on him. He is completly stock along with me.


oh ...so u must've started out a 1/2 car in front of him then huh?

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ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

ORIGINAL: headturningV8


ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.



I call BS
Call BS all you want buddy. The guy I did this against ran a 14.21 in the 1/4 mile against me and I ran a 14.5 and he is a good driver. 2 weeks later we were on a straight way and went from a 45 roll and ran until 95 and shut down and I have a fender on him. He is completly stock along with me.


oh ...so u must've started out a 1/2 car in front of him then huh?
You know i'm not going to argue with you because it's pointless and retarded.

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.


+1

Although I was hard pressed to find anything on the streetfire forums that possibly could have been a stock SS and ran better than a 14.50.

It was either 14.50s+ or one video of a 12.0 run.

ORIGINAL: ASUSMC


ORIGINAL: UrSSlow

You know this issue is getting beyond ridiculous. Yes the GT is faster, has more HP and TQ, and the Cobalt has less HP and TQ but to argue over something like this constantly is retarded. It was fun at 1st few times but some of you get heated over a stupid argument. And yes I drive one and have beaten a few GT's(from a roll, but who cares? You win some and you lose some) but a kill is a kill and a loss is a loss. A Good driven GT sees anywhere from 14.0 to 14.3, great would be 13.8 and 13.9. A good driven Cobalt see's 14.4 to 14.6, great would be 14.2 and 14.3. All those times have been seen stock. And of course you're going to see people running into the 15's and 16's with the Cobalt because they can't drive; I have also seen a bunch of GT's running the same times. You're always going to find inexperienced drivers. To argue over a few tenths of a second is ****ing pointless.

I agree with most of this Stock I have found that I can run 14.5 consistant. Call me a bad driver if you want I live at 3600ft.


You also have a vert.

I do I did forget to mention that. Vert~+200lbs or a Passenger. Weight is a very large determining factor. Once again not saying Im a good driver cause everybody has a bad run every now and then but consistant 14.5 on a bonestock new edge vert at 3600 ft ain't bad.

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.


No one can video tape a run, it makes things too easy. God forbid someone spend $500 on a camera when they can afford to spend $10k on modifications.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1


ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.


No one can video tape a run, it makes things too easy. God forbid someone spend $500 on a camera when they can afford to spend $10k on modifications.


+1

I never buy it when someone claims to have a ton of money into a car but can't seem to get video proof. I can walk by anyones house and snap pictures of their car, but a video is concrete evidence 99 percent of the time.

I had a hard time finding any coblat track videos period. I surfed the coblat forums for like a hour and never found a single one of a stock car.

BTW, 99 percent of the guys on the coblat forums are claiming 14.60+ 1/4 mile times stock.

ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

I had a hard time finding any coblat track videos period. I surfed the coblat forums for like a hour and never found a single one of a stock car.

Dood...go **** something...preferably with a vaginal area. [8D]

BTW, 99 percent of the guys on the coblat forums are claiming 14.60+ 1/4 mile times stock.



That is surely impressive. I think I'll go trade my Corvette for one!

ORIGINAL: 98LS1


ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

I had a hard time finding any coblat track videos period. I surfed the coblat forums for like a hour and never found a single one of a stock car.

Dood...go **** something...preferably with a vaginal area. [8D]

BTW, 99 percent of the guys on the coblat forums are claiming 14.60+ 1/4 mile times stock.



That is surely impressive. I think I'll go trade my Corvette for one!



I'm stuck at work (remeber we are closing the plant in january) and there is NOTHING to do but surf the forums and pick on poor ole cody.

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.
I don't know if you said any of that referring to me but if so... I never once claimed my car can run a 14.1 or anything like that. My 1st run I had was 14.6 and I posted that slip. I went back a week later and ran a 14.58. Whoop-de-doo. You know like I said I don't really care anymoreand it's pointless to argue what my car or my type of car is capable of running and what it isn't because the car wont be mine much longer.

Your dad taking it back?





:D

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

Your dad taking it back?





:D
haha right... My parents dont pay for any of my ****.

Eh, I was just joking. I know your dad has better sense than to buy a Cobalt as a performance car. I know my dad does.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

Eh, I was just joking. I know your dad has better sense than to buy a Cobalt as a performance car. I know my dad does.

Who said I bought it as a "performance" car? I bought it for a DD. I have a 83 400 SmallBlock Camaro for my "Performance" car.

ORIGINAL: UrSSlow


ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.
I don't know if you said any of that referring to me but if so... I never once claimed my car can run a 14.1 or anything like that. My 1st run I had was 14.6 and I posted that slip. I went back a week later and ran a 14.58. Whoop-de-doo. You know like I said I don't really care anymoreand it's pointless to argue what my car or my type of car is capable of running and what it isn't because the car wont be mine much longer.



This was in reference to cody

Really? That's just precious.

98 is jealous because his Mom took his car back before he could sell it, hense "no longer for sale" [8D]

Dood! STFU! I trusted you, you bastard!

This was in reference to cody




Ok.

Actually it's preciously sitting in the garage with the motor out of it being rebuilt, and then repainting the car. The car will be painted within the next month and then the motor goes back in as soon as the roller cam just I just ordered comes in and paint goes on. The car would have been painted last week put painted a 79 Camaro.

It's just the net, but better? :)

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Ok.

Actually it's preciously sitting in the garage with the motor out of it being rebuilt and repainting the car. Car will be painted within the next month. Motor back in as soon as the roller cam just I just ordered comes in and paint goes on. The car would have been painted last week put painted a 79 Camaro.


Dood...I actually have nothing against you, but english would be nice. Please re-read, edit, read to yourself, make sure it makes sense, click ok.

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

i dont know why you slowbalt guys dont just go to the track...in this day and age, everyone knows SOMEONE with a video camera...go make a good run, and post it here, and then no one would give you any crap about it...its THAT simple.

we have even had mustang owners who claimed ridiculous numbers, and they also refused to get video of track runs...if your cavalier is that fast, just go make a run or two on film, and throw in a picture of your car with a sign that says something to identify you..like "this is for that b***h headturningV8 at MF" then show us all one of your cavaliers ripping off a 14.1 run...or even something close to it...and stop posting videos of cavabalts on streetfire and such...there is no proof that a "fast cavalier ss" on streetfire isnt modded.


yeah!.....wait. what?

well, youre the one bickering with them the most...so it would be you they would be shutting up..

and UrSSlow...what does the "performance car" run?

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

Dood! STFU! I trusted you, you bastard!


LMAO. or, are you serious ??? LOL

White2000GT P.S. look at my sig. the engine is at the machinest. i dont think i can pull a dyno sheet out my ass when the car hasnt even had the engine put in the car. why dont you take your little "mustang" that is slow as **** and shut up. i, just like everyone else, am tired of everyone on this forum that doesnt know jack squat about cars. the way you make yourself sound makes me think that mom and daddy bought you that piece of a Mustang. once you get out of the 14's you run then you can speak up.

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

well, youre the one bickering with them the most...so it would be you they would be shutting up..

and UrSSlow...what does the "performance car" run?
Never ran it at the track. I built the car and drove it for half a year on and off and it sat in the garage for 2 years. I sold both Carbs I had on it and the paint wasn't in good shape so I decided to re-do the car.

The motor is a 400 four bolt main small block-square decked and balanced, It had .568" lift, greater than 270 duration @.050 solid lifter cam (Now going to use a roller),11 to 1 compression pistons, 202 intake 188 exhaust camel hump heads that have been fully ported and flowed-screw in studs-guide plates-and stud girdle, Tunnel ram intake with two 600 New Holley carbs-1/2" fuel line ran to 12 gallon fuel cell powered by Holley blue fuel pump, BEI II laser distributor, electric water pump, 2 1/2" tube hooker headers, shortened mopar 8 3/4 rear end with 513 gears-competition engineering three link suspension with extra adjustment link, 4800 stall speed converter, full race prepped turbo 350 transmission, line-lock, and just need to get the trans break. Also car is tubed and caged. I got pics if you want some.

2000GT ive seen vids of your car(not to Impressed).y didnt you pay a little extra and get a supercharger that would blow away your uglyness lol.Mongoose kit lol. that means your to incompitent to put in a supercharger by yourself. im done with this stupid cobalt vs mustang **** and this post may i add.


P.S. KENNE BELL said that with my set up should at 15psi be mid 500 range at the rear wheels. then with the wet nitrous set up should be mid 600 range depending on the shot of nitrous and fuel(pump gas--race fuel).

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ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

well, youre the one bickering with them the most...so it would be you they would be shutting up..

and UrSSlow...what does the "performance car" run?
Never ran it at the track. I built the car and drove it for half a year on and off and it sat in the garage for 2 years. I sold both Carbs I had on it and the paint wasn't in good shape so I decided to re-do the car.

The motor is a 400 four bolt main small block-square decked and balanced, It had .568" lift, greater than 270 duration @.050 solid lifter cam (Now going to use a roller),11 to 1 compression pistons, 202 intake 188 exhaust camel hump heads that have been fully ported and flowed-screw in studs-guide plates-and stud girdle, Tunnel ram intake with two 600 New Holley carbs-1/2" fuel line ran to 12 gallon fuel cell powered by Holley blue fuel pump, BEI II laser distributor, electric water pump, 2 1/2" tube hooker headers, shortened mopar 8 3/4 rear end with 513 gears-competition engineering three link suspension with extra adjustment link, 4800 stall speed converter, full race prepped turbo 350 transmission, line-lock, and just need to get the trans break. Also car is tubed and caged. I got pics if you want some.


mopar 8 3/4....thats right...got yourself a near bulletproof rear...maybe you arent so dumb...;)

from the way it sounds, you should at least be in the mid 12s, as you have more to your engine than i do...i ran mid 12s with 4.10s, a 3000 stall, and 9 to 1 compression in my old dodge

ORIGINAL: redstanger

White2000GT P.S. look at my sig. the engine is at the machinest. i dont think i can pull a dyno sheet out my ass when the car hasnt even had the engine put in the car. why dont you take your little "mustang" that is slow as **** and shut up. i, just like everyone else, am tired of everyone on this forum that doesnt know jack squat about cars. the way you make yourself sound makes me think that mom and daddy bought you that piece of a Mustang. once you get out of the 14's you run then you can speak up.


Haha! Oh man you are so funny! First of all, I am 31 years old and have been in the Navy for 10 years. I can assure you that my "little Mustang that is slow as ****" and everything else that I own was bought and paid for with my own money.
Second, why are you listing mods in you sig that haven't been done yet? If the engine is at the machinist and not even in the car then why even list it as a mod in your sig? That is just like me putting "KB on the way baby!" in my sig when I don't plan on even getting a KB for a few years yet. Oh man you crack me up.
The way you talk, I am starting to think that you are one of those little tools that don't really have what you say you do. And you really need to get off your high horse there buddy. You drive a Mustang, yet you sit here and call the rest of our Mustangs little pieces of ****. What is wrong with you? You sound like a cocky Cobra or LS1 driver.
Running a KB at 15 psi and a wet shot of nitrous... again I say, have fun blowing your engine up buddy.

that's ok white I have a N/A stang too... so I guess I'm a slow piece of **** as well :eek:
but I would rather be a slow piece of **** with you than a cocky douchbag with a piston in my eye [8D]
slow pieces of **** FTW ::high five::

ORIGINAL: bharsen

that's ok white I have a N/A stang too... so I guess I'm a slow piece of **** as well :eek:
but I would rather be a slow piece of **** with you than a cocky douchbag with a piston in my eye [8D]
slow pieces of **** FTW ::high five::


Word bharsen. We all pale in comparison to the mighty redstanger!

once you get out of the 14's you run then you can speak up.
One more thing redstanger... once you get a car with an engine in it, then you can speak up. :eek:

HOLY **** where has this post gone?

Enough with the bull**** guys, who cares if it's a GT, SRT-4 or SS/SC.

Who cares if someone has a SS/SC as there nice car? A car that can run low 14's, pull .89 on the skid pad, slaloms and brakes better than a Vette and has a top speed of 155mph isn't an average vehicle.

A Mustang GT only matches the 1/4 numbers so what does that say about the GT?

My car may not be as " cool " or as raw as say my Camaro SS's but it still gets respect due to the fact that it's a 2.0 with a S/C that hauls ass.

ORIGINAL: codyss

HOLY **** where has this post gone?

Enough with the bull**** guys, who cares if it's a GT, SRT-4 or SS/SC.

Who cares if someone has a SS/SC as there nice car? A car that can run low 14's, pull .89 on the skid pad, slaloms and brakes better than a Vette and has a top speed of 155mph isn't an average vehicle.

A Mustang GT only matches the 1/4 numbers so what does that say about the GT?

My car may not be as " cool " or as raw as say my Camaro SS's but it still gets respect due to the fact that it's a 2.0 with a S/C that hauls ass.






Make up your dam mind. The other day you said "keep up" and now we ONLY match a ss?

Go back to your noballs forum.. We have enough trolls here as it is.

ORIGINAL: white04gt


ORIGINAL: codyss

HOLY **** where has this post gone?

Enough with the bull**** guys, who cares if it's a GT, SRT-4 or SS/SC.

Who cares if someone has a SS/SC as there nice car? A car that can run low 14's, pull .89 on the skid pad, slaloms and brakes better than a Vette and has a top speed of 155mph isn't an average vehicle.

A Mustang GT only matches the 1/4 numbers so what does that say about the GT?

My car may not be as " cool " or as raw as say my Camaro SS's but it still gets respect due to the fact that it's a 2.0 with a S/C that hauls ass.






Make up your dam mind. The other day you said "keep up" and now we ONLY match a ss?

Go back to your noballs forum.. We have enough trolls here as it is.




I agree, wtf. earlier you said that a stock GT cant get a 14.0 time and suddenly now cobalt ss's can get to around a 14.0 time?


dude, u give cobalts waaaay too much credit if you think most of them go low 14's. as a matter of fact, you give cobalts too much credit in general. a s/c car that only does high 14's is kinda sad when you have some n/a 4 bangers getting high 14s in a stock engine w/o power adders (i.e rsx-s or celica GTS)

ORIGINAL: codyss

HOLY **** where has this post gone?

Enough with the bull**** guys, who cares if it's a GT, SRT-4 or SS/SC.

Who cares if someone has a SS/SC as there nice car? A car that can run low 14's, pull .89 on the skid pad, slaloms and brakes better than a Vette and has a top speed of 155mph isn't an average vehicle.

A Mustang GT only matches the 1/4 numbers so what does that say about the GT?
My car may not be as " cool " or as raw as say my Camaro SS's but it still gets respect due to the fact that it's a 2.0 with a S/C that hauls ass.






OOOOOMMMMMGGGGGG!!! , i want u to post where u live so some1 on this site w/ a stock GT can meet up w/ u and blow ur doors off on camera. You're such a clown . Stop comparing ur slowbolt to a GT/SRT4 , its a false statement. Your car is at best 14.5 (stock)...n e comment on that? (this is a partial rant)

I'm glad that there are those out there thay are enjoying their Colbalts.. cus they are at least a change from some of the imports I've been seeing.
As to their speed, well a supercharger that still only brings a small car into the mid-ish 14's is kind of sad.. :(
I know this is not a real comparison, But I had a kid in a Cobalt come up behind me on a long bridge and from a 45-50mph range, and by the time i Put it in 4th, he was about 4-5 car-leangts behind me..
My last car, 03 gt would have had no brob either.. In fact myu 99 v6 might have even been a match.. okay mabey not, but Why are we even spending so much time on this damn Colbalt issue anyway..?

Oh, and as the 'race' was the second week I had my new Stang, so I didn't have any mods yet..

Damn Super Cody are you confused[&:]... I actually like the way the Slowbalt SS (in black) I'm just not impressed by the performance #'s...:(

HeadturningV8 you want to put some cash down on that?

Out of anyone here you need to keep your mouth shut the most. You are an annoying little bitch that most likely has Wal Mart change your oil. Put your fag ass in your stock GT and go to the track. I wish I could be there when you run high 14's all night long.

And RSX-S and Celica GT-S both get murdered by SS/SC unless your a moron and get your info from Streetflamers.com

RSX and GTS? youre bragging about beating low to mid 15 second cars now?

while i agree 100% that HTV8 needs to get to the track and get some solid evidence, the same goes for you cody...lets see what that GMPP Stage 2 can do...

all arguement aside I still want to know what cody runs with the stage 2... just out of curiosity.... I'm done argueing pointlessly... the numbers are there the video is there, and this converstaion has nothing to do with the thread at hand now....
cody has a stage 2 and then some... so he has nothing to do with a bone stock cobalt SS
and cody... you have the fastest cobalt SS/SC ever OK? whoopdeefreakindoo!!!!
that's like being the smartest kid with down syndrom...
this thread needs to die..seriously...like the kind of die where you slit its throat chop it up into itty bitty pieces and flush various parts down the toilet throw some in the sewer and bury the rest... yea that kind of die

ORIGINAL: Ride Of The Month

RSX and GTS? youre bragging about beating low to mid 15 second cars now?

while i agree 100% that HTV8 needs to get to the track and get some solid evidence, the same goes for you cody...lets see what that GMPP Stage 2 can do...


Why don't you both go to the track and bring back proof of who's faster... (Super Cody & HTV8) since both of you keep bitching I'm sure you both could afford to go out to the track and VIDEOTAPE it...

screw you all, I just pissed in the urinal from 18 feet away. beat that. oh, and videotape it and pm it to rotm so he can post it for you. :D

....... I guess I found out what stage 2's do for you... don't bother explaining cody.... please, I'm sorry... that's just sad..
http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22016
http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21383

that a way nice kill bro

not only are they slow, but they seem to know NOTHING about track racing...go figure..

but seriously, some of the stuff that they are posting..is just plain awful...mid 14s and 15s with the MIGHTY stage 2??

2.4 60' times[:@] thats pretty damn bad:(

ORIGINAL: bharsen

....... I guess I found out what stage 2's do for you... don't bother explaining cody.... please, I'm sorry... that's just sad..
http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22016
http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21383


Launched at "1300 rpm"??? [sm=WTFsgign.gif] I don't get it? Do they have that bad of traction?

I fall asleep dump the clutch and still get 2.3 60ft times.

j/k

Not I run consistant 2.15 60ft not horrible but on street tires with some spin which I am working on not really too bad[&:]

ORIGINAL: eindow

2.4 60' times[:@] thats pretty damn bad:(


my DD only runs low 16s and it pulls better than 2.4 short times...

ORIGINAL: Derf00

Launched at "1300 rpm"??? [sm=WTFsgign.gif] I don't get it? Do they have that bad of traction?


no, that bad of drivers...thats the problem with making high (ish) horsepower, very cheap cars...every ricer in the world runs out and gets one and they either make themselves look like an ass at the track, or they wreck it....the same goes for SRT4 owners. little jimmy or carrie wants a "fast new car" so their ignorant parents think "hmmm..a neon or cavalier, that seems safe, and its cheap!" but theyre forced induction cars and as a result they end up wrecking the cars, an insurance goes up. thats why if GM and DCX are going to make cars like the neon or cavalier "fast" (ish) they should actually make them NICE inside and out and charge more for them. hell, the neon is 20,000+ and has cloth seats and manual windows? hell no. charge 25,000 and