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HAHA.
ill say this, looks wise, i like the Cobalt's. performance wise, no. id rather have an SRT-4 ANY DAY. they look better, and it seems to me like they take to mods better. plus, i like Mopars anyway. BUT, the Cobalts do seem to be gettin more of an aftermarket support for 'em, so, im sure theyll be just as good as an SRT-4 eventually, if not already.
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still around here all the 1999-2004 mustang GT's were beat by codyss when he was stock. i hosted the races. i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.
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still around here all the 1999-2004 mustang GT's were beat by codyss when he was stock. i hosted the races. i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.
either he was bsin you about his car, or all he ran into were GTs with terrible drivers. I have NEVER seen a coblat stock beat a 99-04. Around here they don't even bother to try anymore till they have a few mods.
I dunno if the comment was directed at me personally, but I would hate to see what would happen in a race between me and cody, and thats for cody's ego's sake.
Maybe if cody didn't come on here with such an additude people would respect him anymore.
Regardless, I still want someone to explain to me how a coblat is supposed to be waxing a 99-04 from a stop or a roll, but they can't even dream of hanging with a SRT-4 stock for stock. I have seen quite a few srt-4 vs GT videos and they seem about 1/2 and 1/2, even from a roll.....
So, you have nitrous and a 2.2L KB on a stock bottom end? Man you are just asking for a blown engine.
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i just think its funny how everyone trys to bash him on his car when they have no room to talk because there mustang is slow and worthless.
This coming from a guy who also drive a Mustang? So, with all your mods, what times are you running there buddy? How bout you post up a timeslip or dyno sheet or something?
aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.
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335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.
because of your lack of typing skills, I thought you meant 'had' like, back when he was stock. I never claimed to be able to beat a 'claimed' 270 WHP car that weighed under 4K pounds.
You need to get off the OTHER GUYS high horse and come to terms with reality.
According to you, and SS:
Cobalt runs (stock vs stock) on par with a SRT-4 (despite the obvious hp difference) New Edge GT gets destroyed be an SRT-4 yet..... Cobalt (with good driver) is a drivers race with a new edge GT
so how can Cobalt=SRT-4 and SRT>GT,, yet... GT=SS??
im not saying a Cavabolt SS is an absolute slug. Apparently, like most stock boosted cars, it has great potential when compared to a N/A 2v 4.6 (big whoop, nowadays, what doesnt) but youre still in dream world if you think STOCK EQUALLY DRIVEN 99-04 GT's are equal to a Cobalt SS
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aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.
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335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.
because of your lack of typing skills, I thought you meant 'had' like, back when he was stock. I never claimed to be able to beat a 'claimed' 270 WHP car that weighed under 4K pounds.
You need to get off the OTHER GUYS high horse and come to terms with reality.
According to you, and SS:
Cobalt runs (stock vs stock) on par with a SRT-4 (despite the obvious hp difference) New Edge GT gets destroyed be an SRT-4 yet..... Cobalt (with good driver) is a drivers race with a new edge GT
so how can Cobalt=SRT-4 and SRT>GT,, yet... GT=SS??
im not saying a Cavabolt SS is an absolute slug. Apparently, like most stock boosted cars, it has great potential when compared to a N/A 2v 4.6 (big whoop, nowadays, what doesnt) but youre still in dream world if you think STOCK EQUALLY DRIVEN 99-04 GT's are equal to a Cobalt SS
Me have an attitude? Lets get things straight here!
A) Cobalt / G4 /Pursuit ride on a Delta chassis not J-Body like the Cavaliers
B) The Delta chassis makes the SN197 chassis look/feel weak
C) I am only an a$$hole to those who think there slow a$$ stock GT can hang with my car without any effort. If you drive a near stock GT and win a roll race with a SS/SC you got lucky because you didn't win due to HP, gears or anything else you beat the driver.
D) Enough with the sure you had this car or that car, look at my phot page you damn idiots.
E) A stock SS/SC is more than capable of low 14's, no matter what some of you brainless morons want to belive. To every one SS/SC in the high 14's theres 20 GT's anyone who says differently is stupid. Not every SS/SC owner can drive and nor can every GT owner.
F) The attitude that some of you have is what makes smoking a GT all that much more fun!!!
Cody, I understand your argument here and all, but how many people on this board actually have stock GT's? Personally, I can't think of any. So, the whole stock vs. stock thing is a moot point here. You're not stock, and neither would be most GT's you would meet up with on the street or at the track.
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the delta chassis is just the J-body chassis renamed...they did it with all of their models. you honestly dont see the REMARKABLE resemblance between the cavalier and the cobalt?
if the cavalier didnt have such a reputation as a bitch car, they would have just named this new slug the cavalier, but they are trying DESPERATELY to change their overall image, but its not working.
also, you go on and on about how the cavalier SS/SC is capable of this and that, yet all you can produce is a few random owners, and magazines? where are your better-than-Gt timeslips cody?
youre absolutely right..not every GT drive can drive the car well, but like it or not, the mustang is a sports car, and the cobalt is just the next installment of a cheap ass economy coupe...its what people who dont want a sedan, and dont REALLY care about performance get instead of the srt-4.
people give you crap because you are the #1 paper racer...you go on and on about what your mighty car is capable of, yet you have nothing to back it up. and dont get into the "i dont have to prove anything to anyone" crap...thats a cop out. just because your car can beat some poorly driven new edge GTs, doesnt mean that the CAR is faster with equal drivers. hell, my car has put down better times than stock terminators, but i dont go around here telling people with 03-04 cobras that my caris faster...except for hisss, but he deserves it...
and to make matters worse for your arguing point, you are now bickering with the other SS/SC owner here and he claims that being in the wrong gear creates supercharger lag?
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the delta chassis is just the J-body chassis renamed...they did it with all of their models. you honestly dont see the REMARKABLE resemblance between the cavalier and the cobalt?
if the cavalier didnt have such a reputation as a bitch car, they would have just named this new slug the cavalier, but they are trying DESPERATELY to change their overall image, but its not working.
also, you go on and on about how the cavalier SS/SC is capable of this and that, yet all you can produce is a few random owners, and magazines? where are your better-than-Gt timeslips cody?
youre absolutely right..not every GT drive can drive the car well, but like it or not, the mustang is a sports car, and the cobalt is just the next installment of a cheap ass economy coupe...its what people who dont want a sedan, and dont REALLY care about performance get instead of the srt-4.
people give you crap because you are the #1 paper racer...you go on and on about what your mighty car is capable of, yet you have nothing to back it up. and dont get into the "i dont have to prove anything to anyone" crap...thats a cop out. just because your car can beat some poorly driven new edge GTs, doesnt mean that the CAR is faster with equal drivers. hell, my car has put down better times than stock terminators, but i dont go around here telling people with 03-04 cobras that my caris faster...except for hisss, but he deserves it...
and to make matters worse for your arguing point, you are now bickering with the other SS/SC owner here and he claims that being in the wrong gear creates supercharger lag?
thank you! someone finally said it. idk where cody is getting his info from. i think like 2 months ago 98LS1 posted a cobalt dyno that had the cobalts making more power to the wheels than what chevy said, that was the only factual proof ive seen of the cava....err cobalts being just as fast or faster than GT's. cody, you should really back up what ur saying before u go on and on. and where the heck did u get the thing about the new J-body platform being soo much better than the S197 chasis?? LOL
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thats codys whole arguement right there, he thinks every cobalt driver is a professional drivers and GT drivers suck at life, hence the "yea cobalts can easliy beat 99-04 GT's" comments. like 3 cobalts get a low 14 sec time and to cody every cobalt is a low 14 sec car, kinda like how if u put a pro driver in a GT, hell probably get 13's wit no problem
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Me have an attitude? Lets get things straight here!
A) Cobalt / G4 /Pursuit ride on a Delta chassis not J-Body like the Cavaliers
B) The Delta chassis makes the SN197 chassis look/feel weak
C) I am only an a$$hole to those who think there slow a$$ stock GT can hang with my car without any effort. If you drive a near stock GT and win a roll race with a SS/SC you got lucky because you didn't win due to HP, gears or anything else you beat the driver.
D) Enough with the sure you had this car or that car, look at my phot page you damn idiots.
E) A stock SS/SC is more than capable of low 14's, no matter what some of you brainless morons want to belive. To every one SS/SC in the high 14's theres 20 GT's anyone who says differently is stupid. Not every SS/SC owner can drive and nor can every GT owner.
F) The attitude that some of you have is what makes smoking a GT all that much more fun!!!
ROFL
Seriously, you are such a moron. WHERE in the hell off WHAT ricer forum did you get this about your "delta" chassis against the S197. There isn't a circut track in the world where the S197 wouldn't wipe the floor with your mighty "delta" chassis, and it wieghs hundreds more pounds than you.
Did you want me to upload a couple more photos to my photo page, I think I have a ford GT and a couple viper picutres scanned out of magazines onthere, jsut like your LS1 ones.
Seriously, didn't you say you either traded your vette or LS1 car for your coblat?? Riiiggghhhttt...
And I have seen plenty of GT guys with consistant 2.1-2.2 60's in the 14.40~ range, but I have never seen anyone that could drive consistantly ET i the 14.60+ range. This is what ALL the coblats around here ET.
Once again, lets see ONE video where they show a underhood shot and the tires beforehand or even CLAIM to have a stock coblat, and then lets see it beat a new edge GT or run a 13.90 in the 1/4 mile. You are claiming that a good driver can drive a blat equally with a new edge, and i have seen at least a few non professional (just dammed good) drivers rape a all stock GT into the high 13s.....
Your just a joke dude. Your car is slow, and unless you put insane amounts of money into it it will always be so.
And frankly, what do you want coming on a mustang forum? You don't see me camping out on www.coblatforums.com do you ? If I did, well hell I would probably be their hero for having a car in the 12s, but still they would hate me.
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Look at the pictures ace, there all taken in the same spot and have NE plates. I would post all of my NE registrations that I kept but you aren't worth the time or effort.
And Ride of the Month you are completely wrong the Delta chassis was all new to the states when the Saturn ION came out. It was also used on the Opel Astra a year before then too. It shares nothing with the J-Body platform except maybe some screws or bolts, look under a cobalt. There are no old style sub frames it has two fully boxed channels per side that everything attaches to, it's as close to a full frame as you can get.
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