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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:22:51 PM   
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the cobalt would beat a 2000gt from a roll. from a dig thats a different story. the 2000's had less hp than the 2001's up. if the cobalt had slicks then it would be close until the mustang got into 3rd and then the cobalt's top end comes in. ive seen a cobalt stay next to a 1999 cobra from 45 up and that was a 100% stock cobalt ss.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:26:29 PM   
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those are some whacked out facts man..lol

99-04 is the exact same GT.. so saying it would beat one but not the other is insane..

and there is no way a cobalt is gonna hang with a 320 hp cobra FROM A ROLL

i will say that perhaps, from a high (50mph +) roll , a cobalt ss might be close or on par with a 99-04 STOCK GT, but thats it,

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:28:05 PM   
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99-00 have less compression.9 to 1 while 01-04's have 9 to 4. the thing is it depends on the driver to.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:29:34 PM   
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99-00 have less compression.


but the exact same HP and exact same 1/4

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:30:00 PM   
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more the compression on a NA motor the more power it makes. simple mechanics.lol

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:30:45 PM   
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to bad you read to much. get out there on the street and try that fact.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:31:41 PM   
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*sigh*

a 99-04 is the exact same man, i dont care about compression,, both dyno 225's to the wheels in a manual, and can run a 14.0-14.3 with a good driver

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:32:29 PM   
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i had a friend that had a 99gt that had mid-pipe and catback and intake. i beat him with my 2001 gt that just had catback.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:33:22 PM   
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99-00 have less compression.9 to 1 while 01-04's have 9 to 4. the thing is it depends on the driver to.



wow you really are smoking crack. There is ZERO difference between a 99-00 and a 01+.

Also, it will not be a drivers race from a roll or a stop.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:33:32 PM   
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what mods do u have 72MachOne99GT?


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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:35:05 PM   
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i had a friend that had a 99gt that had mid-pipe and catback and intake. i beat him with my 2001 gt that just had catback.


rofl this has NOTHING to do with your compression ratios. Not only is there a difference driver to driver, but there will always be a difference in cars, even ones that are exactly the same.

Look at LS1s. I have heard of them dynoing 320+ WHP, and others dynoing inthe 280 range, with the same trans/year/everything.

I dunno who told ya about the compression ratios but they were wrong.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:43:53 PM   
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this is the page i think. 99's have lower compression than 2000-2004. 2000 had the same compression but different belt tensioner so there is a difference somewhat lol.

http://www.modulardepot.com/modspecs.php#01

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:44:37 PM   
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well 2000, i do remember seeing somewhere there is a slight compression difference, but it is nothing that matters any,,

all 99-04's are drivers race, if you beat a 99 with catback and midpipe and you had just a catback, you beat a car that MIGHT have had 2-3 more hp than you

if they were different transmissions from one another, then it negates the mods

ive got a 99GT
4.10's, MT DR's, o/r H, Borla Catback, K&N filter w/ silencer removed..

i MIGHT be making 335 to the wheels, adn i ran a dissapointing 14.086@99.09 w/ 2.05 60'

yes, that is LOUSY, but its not because of my compressino..lol

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:46:00 PM   
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335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:48:07 PM   
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this is the page i think. 99's have lower compression than 2000-2004. 2000 had the same compression but different belt tensioner so there is a difference somewhat lol.

http://www.modulardepot.com/modspecs.php#01


check out that page closely and they ahve the same compression ratio for the 98s as they do the 99s. I am 99.99 percent sure it is a typo.

there are a few minor diferences in the cars (IAT sensor location, size of the bungs on the intake, etc etc) but the average 99 will run with the average 04 all things being equal. Also, the eariler cars had a t-45 and the newer ones have a 3650 with a slightly different 5th gear ratio.

Thats not what got your buddies car beat though. Either you car simply ran better from the factory or you outdrove em.

and I dunno wtf was with the cobra vs coblat race you saw. Something was up, cause a coblat definatly will not run door to door with a 99 cobra stock to stock

EDIT: The more I look at it hte more that page is screwed up. It also shows some funky ass number for the t/b on the 99s. I definatly know that the 99 T/b is exactly the same as the 2000. It also shows the 2000 has a bigger combustion chamber and the same piston but a higher compression ratio? WTF?

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:50:09 PM   
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This thread is hilarious.

Like I care that you beat a Cobalt the kid most likely did keep missing 3rd, so what you beat a ****ty driver.

I missed 3rd more than a few times until I got used to the cable shifter feel. It's alot different than a T-56 ot T-3650 direct shifter.

And ursslow the SS/SC doesn't need to build boost it's supercharged, tire spin is what makes it slow off the line.

So long story short no matter what any jackass here thinks a stock SS/SC still runs low-mid 14's at 97-100mph thats right on par with a 99-04 GT.

SS/SC w/bad driver < GT w/good driver
SS/SC w/good driver > GT w/bad driver
SS/SC w/good driver = GT w/good driver

From a roll the GT will just plain lose unless the SS/SC driver misses 4th and 5th.





harumph.

i dont know if u know this buuuut.... cobolts are slow, and of course gay. it doesnt matter the type of race



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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:51:11 PM   
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335 my ass. maybe 230 at the wheels. and codyss would had you ur ass all day long. he could take it easy out of the hole and still beat you lol.


dude, youre an idiot....
if youre talking about a stock cobalt running a 14.0, youre retarded,, im pretty sure youer just being a troll alright..

i have to go to work now so any smart or witty remarks you make, im not going to be here to defnd myself from your randomness

my car is VERY capable of a 13.6 as it sits, i just have to drive better,
have a good night


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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:52:22 PM   
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idk i thought it was weird to. the thing is the cobalt had a little more momentom than the cobra did. i was suprised to. you should of seen the kid in the cobra. his face was priceless. lol.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 9:56:03 PM   
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aw. look at codyss. STAGE2 moron. he is around 270. while you are down at 230. lets see this mmm. less weight, more power, better gear ratio. mmm dont you remember physics.your odds are against you.

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RE: Me vs. Cobalt SS/SC - 6/5/2006 10:04:24 PM   
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when did mach ever say he could beat cody?

Mach's car should run a mid/high 13 with a good driver.

What I love about this thread is that cody instantly claims it was a ****ty driver. If a slowbalt driver goes down it was the driver, if they manage to hold a GT within a carlength it was the super duper coblat ss

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