I believe at the 60k price point this car alienates most of the tuner crowd who don't like to "start off" with a car that expensive. In addition the look of the car isn't very distinctive as its very similar to the 350z so it won't be much of a pull up to the country club car. And finally, I believe it will have a hard time finding a place among the track crowd. With multiple AWD cars already available, it's not bringing anything to the table that fans will be willing to spend that much cash on.
Nice car but doomed from the get go.
E.
I'm gonna have to disagree w/ you on this one. First off, the upcoming GT-R doesn't look very much like a 350Z. The headlights are kinda somewhat similar-ish, but that's about it. And the people who buy this car are not the type of people who go to country clubs. It will be people who are into the Japanese tuning scene who have moved up from 3000GT's, RX7's, Evo's, 350Z's, etc and are interested in something that offers more performance and potential straight from the factory. Yeah, there will be the occasional car enthusiast who just likes them and buys one, and of course, the high roller who just buys one because he likes how it looks, whatever, but there is a target audience this car is intended for, and I assure you, they won't have trouble selling them. If people will pay $70K + for R34 GT-R's and $80K + for new NSX's before they stopped making them, I'm sure the GT-R will sell. Those two cars didn't have nowhere near the factory performance the GT-R will. As for the track crowd, it seems to me, most people are aware of the fact that the most effective way to have a good track car, is to buy something 'cheap' and strip/mod it. For example, a Porsche 944, Nisssan 240SX w/ motor swap, Honda hatches w/ motor swaps, Miata's, car along those lines. Most people buying C6 Z06's, Vipers, Ferrari's etc, don't track them. And the new GT-R isn't just a track-only special like say a Lotus Elise. It could very easily be used as a daily driver, if one wanted, due to it's AWD, full interior, etc. All in all, I don't think Nissan will have any trouble selling GT-R's. Whether or not dealers will after ridiculous markups, is yet to be seen.......
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At which you simply reply a Corvette Z06, Dodge Viper or Ford GT would stomp a skyline! But since you don't own a skyline and I dont own one of those (actually I do own a viper but for the story we will assume I don't) what is your point?
Hey guys im new to forums and i would like to end this discussion first off i dont hate or look down domestics actually i was a mustang owner and now i own a nissan gtr but its a 93 besides that the post was about the shelby gt 500vs GTR08 its simple actually the shelbys will be less produced seeing as its a reserved i will agree that it will be a raw horsepower vechicle and if its from shelby it will have some perks from the exterior and interior and brains but all in all unless where you live its a 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile everywhere the weight of the car is funny especially for a rwd ive been driving for a long time and ive learned wether you solo race (track) or 1/4 mile its all about momentum, weight, and driveterrain i mean no **** you can smoke a fwd overly dressed gay honda but if you put a rwd on a track with a awd car its gonna have some trouble if the Mitsu evo9 can out run a lambo LP640 in a track you better believe that gtr will be on your ass the engine that nissan will use isnt the reliable RB26DETT itll be a variant from the Z a VQ that said its still near 500 and any true import enthusiast can pull the new engine out for the crazy potent RB26DETT whats so important about the RB ? think of it as the 427 its a engine that can pull over 1000whp and still be driven home nismo made their tuned down version called the Nismo GT-R Z tune wich pushes 500 whp 80% of the body is carbon fiber and the pipes including exhuast manifold are titanium if you put a shelby and gtr on a 1/4 mile the gt will get it off the line but the shelby might eventually pass it it all depends on the driver for either car but on a race track the Shelby will have oversteer problems which can be seen from the Viper cough cough ever steped hard on the pedal of your viper and have that tail come out too hard? its fun sure but it will lose track time. i think both cars are sweet if Nissan uses the ATTESA system for the awd of the GTR it maybe alittle heavier but i heard that the new AWD system nissan designed will be on it wich allows you to configure the central differential wich means you can adjust the car entirely depending on what car is at your side you also have the option of changing your damper setting and boost psi (bar in jpn) all from the drivers seat i think for the money it isnt a bad car, take this post as information and not hate please oh you can bet im buying this car anyone can who has a job :)
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Actually Suikoden your correct the Infiniti trademark is a "luxury branch" of nissan of usa and the g35 coupe and sedan are known as Skylines in good old japan the difference of the japanese and american cars in this case is only the badge it carrys the engine is the same etc etc etc nice vid on that evo by the way the 08GTR is gonna look way different than the G35s running around now though carbon fiber bodie peanels etc the stance and the body lines are way sexier if you agree
i know it will look difrent from the g35 i think we'll all know what it is when we see one rollin down the street but compared to a concept pic on page 2 or maybe 1 it does resemble the g35
Simply beautiful......No disrespect to all the american muscle guys here, but I've always dreamed of owning an R32, and while the GT500 is a gorgeous car and is definitely something to brag about (I saw one when I first moved out here to Cali and I started screaming like a little girl at an Nsync concert), I would still prefer the new Skyline. Although, driving a near stock v6 makes me want either one really.....but oh well, hopefully I can get a good job when I graduate and sign my life away to Nissan as I'm sure the markup will be horrendous for the new GT-R. Oh, and does anyone know if the new GT-R will have the 4 wheel turning, and is it true that you can get RHD on it? I searched online and talked to a buddy who works for a dealership and he didn't know....
ps. If the GTRSX or whatever is so much more awesome, why would you still be nervous and intimidated when sitting at the red light next to a 500 horsepower muscle car?
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That's pretty fugly, looks like a crying catfish.
It could be the fastest car ever created, or the best in cornering, which it will be neither, but it's still fugly.
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Is there really a point to this mine is bigger than yours?
If you want a Skyline buy it! I know it will be fatser than my GT and the Slower than a Z06 or Viper which will be slower than a F70 Ferrari.
I really seriously doubt the GTR will be anything close to the price of a $24,000 Mustang GT. I suspect its natural competition will be the $50,000 C7 Vette (3200 lb and 500 bhp).
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