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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:09:00 PM   
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oh yeah stupid question but isnt there some kind of electrical control unit that could control how much boost you want? thanks for the help.


On the Powerhouse turbo you have to change the spring on the wastegate. Which involves getting under the car. That might be something you could add though. You'd probably want to change the tune for different boost levels though.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:10:12 PM   
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your gonna have to change the tune ;)

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:10:50 PM   
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your gonna have to change the tune ;)


If you want it to live. :-D

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:11:21 PM   
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even wwith the set spring you can still put on a aftermarket controller, either mech or elec, on top of it and it will still do its job

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:17:20 PM   
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Got it thanks
It also looks like it doesn't have the vac operated outside flap on WOT but i think if I remember correctly that might of been only on the 70 Chevelle SS for the flap which I did also own one.


Really? Cool. I had an SS 396 350HP. Never should have gotten rid of that car. Man, I'll always regret that.


Yep I was lucky enough to have the a rare LS6 454 underrated at 450HP was said stock over 500 HP, 4spd blue/w white stripes or cousre I built it up cam, Edlebrock, Holly 850 DP, had 4 bolt mains, with the open chamber rect port heads, Hooker tuned headers 410's etc etc and as you should well know talk about super bad wheel hop ladder bars was a must have atleast with my car. Our cars today why anywhere from $40,000 - $100,000 matching numbers.

But lets not hijack Rygens thread :)


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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:23:09 PM   
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Yep like Jimp said on the Powerhouse it has to be done at the waste gate and it takes a little time with hand tools, the mech knob is the way to go IMO but I am not sure never got a chance to ask Mike if the tune needed to be changed going from 8psi - 9psi which I also relayed the above info to Rygen about few weeks ago.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:24:29 PM   
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well t une must be change, if not youll run lean amd blow holes through the top of your pistons

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:25:54 PM   
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congrats guys, be very happy with your new found hp, hopefully you wont have to answer the doubter questions, here they are just so you can be ready, LOL

1- are you sure it was a mustang dyno?
2- when was their dyno calibrated last?
3- are they corrected numbers ?
4- can I get a free one ?
5- can you post a dyno sheet?
6- can you go get a dyno on a dynojet so we can compare?

@ Rygen, will be lookin forward to all your good results, sounds like you will be getting noticed at the track even more,

@ screaming, we have seen too many surprises from you, we'll be watching for the Mistress's latest surprise as well.

results seem to be getting better for this 4.0 all the time, a big thanks to all the guys who have risked their cars and opened their wallets to test some of these new mods so we could see the results! kudos to you.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:27:13 PM   
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quote:

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well t une must be change, if not youll run lean amd blow holes through the top of your pistons



Yes I would think so but wasn't 100% sure and told Rygn in a pm about the tune change regarding going with the mech knob and going from 8-9psi.

< Message edited by TJ -- 5/21/2006 2:29:57 PM >


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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:31:06 PM   
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tru dat

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:32:55 PM   
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

You Bia@$$, LOL

Can't wait to see some clips.....

Group buy......... It's kinda hard to join in without more details.....at least a max cost (single buy with tune etc) .

What kind of "eye balled" price are we talking about? I might be interested......




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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 2:48:00 PM   
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its 4800 with the tuner and the tune for the itnercooled, or 4000 for the non intercooled. there is going to be a 100-200 discount (hopefully, undetermined as to how much) if you already have an xcal2 (not xcal1, or diablo, only xcal2). Hopin to get a few hundred off with the group pbuy, i think 4400 for the intercooled kit is a good deal, but 4200 would be even better (with xcal2 discount of course). Even at 4800, this kit is amazing. 9.5 psi for 350+rwhp. the vortech kit is makin 305rwhp at that boost, and the procharger is like 311

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 3:03:35 PM   
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Ok you guys done posting for awhile? so I can get away from this computer and get some things done today :) Man I am a little pumped up right now can't wait for for Rygen's opinion and info later today and through out the week dyno sheets ,1/8 times 60' times 1/4 times, trap speeds should I go on :)

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 3:05:21 PM   
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ill sign off lol

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 4:39:32 PM   
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That kind of power is going to cost more than just the 4200-4800 for the turbo though right? I didn't think our stock cars where rated to last very long on anything over 300hp. Will this also require an upgrade to the rear end, drive shaft, gears putting it well over 5 grand? Just curious cause I may be wrong about everything I've just asked, but would like to know. I'd like to see that kind of power for under 5k, but this is my daily driver after all and want it to last several years without braking.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 4:44:16 PM   
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Yea I have a hard time seeing them get let it go for anything less than $4600 with out the tuner. 350 rwhp is a good number LOL.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 5:11:42 PM   
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That kind of power is going to cost more than just the 4200-4800 for the turbo though right? I didn't think our stock cars where rated to last very long on anything over 300hp. Will this also require an upgrade to the rear end, drive shaft, gears putting it well over 5 grand? Just curious cause I may be wrong about everything I've just asked, but would like to know. I'd like to see that kind of power for under 5k, but this is my daily driver after all and want it to last several years without braking.


You could put it on a completely stock car. An LSD will help you hook up better, stock gears are fine though. Mike tells me they are using a stock V6 driveshaft and a stock 4.0 running at 12PSI and hitting 11.80s at the track. And it just wasn't a one time deal either, they have been running 11s since last year. An 8PSI turbo shouldn't hurt your car and will be easier on the engine than a SC.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 5:22:45 PM   
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That kind of power is going to cost more than just the 4200-4800 for the turbo though right? I didn't think our stock cars where rated to last very long on anything over 300hp. Will this also require an upgrade to the rear end, drive shaft, gears putting it well over 5 grand? Just curious cause I may be wrong about everything I've just asked, but would like to know. I'd like to see that kind of power for under 5k, but this is my daily driver after all and want it to last several years without braking.


Disclaimer this just IMO & thoughts don't listen to me!

Giddy Mike has already been running this thing at 400RWHP@ 12psi on a stock long block, trans, and clutch but like anything your mileage may vary/risk, it looks like the 8-8.5 is the sweet spot and safe for long engine life but only time will tell 100% as with any power adder including superchargers & nitrous or two stage systems.. Yes also I agree its not only the amount of boost you are running but also the amount of power you are making per cylinder example if you were making 400RWHP at 8-8.5 psi I would seriously question the abiltly of the motor to last a long life, but at the same making 340-360RWHP @8- 8.5psi would be a much better as far as engine's llife span.

Thinking 8 psi really should be good for long life but no one will know for sure on any of these power adders including superchargers & nitrous untill some good amount of time passes.

The stock drive train should be fine with an auto one exception being if running a 3k or higher stall converter w/DR's then the the 7.5 comes to mind. But for me with a stick to set this car up right for some serious track use the rearend, driveshaft, tranny, shifter, clutch and flywheel/flexplate would have to go for me thats including if I went with a supercharger also ( not so with an auto IMO)because thats the way I am and from experience and research, not saying that has to be done no proof its just IMO and how I would do it. Now occasional track use and DD of course with a TC or SC I wouldn't have a need to change out those items with a stick.

One thing seeing a V8 run 12's is in no way that impressive or nearly as impressive as a V6 doing it and poss high 11's! and that what makes a V6 build up so much more fun and is just dam impressive.



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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 5:30:17 PM   
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That kind of power is going to cost more than just the 4200-4800 for the turbo though right? I didn't think our stock cars where rated to last very long on anything over 300hp. Will this also require an upgrade to the rear end, drive shaft, gears putting it well over 5 grand? Just curious cause I may be wrong about everything I've just asked, but would like to know. I'd like to see that kind of power for under 5k, but this is my daily driver after all and want it to last several years without braking.


You could put it on a completely stock car. An LSD will help you hook up better, stock gears are fine though. Mike tells me they are using a stock V6 driveshaft and a stock 4.0 running at 12PSI and hitting 11.80s at the track. And it just wasn't a one time deal either, they have been running 11s since last year. An 8PSI turbo shouldn't hurt your car and will be easier on the engine than a SC.



Jimp I could be wrong but my understang is a V6 driveshaft won't work with a 8.8 rearend which is what is in Mikes car.

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RE: Powerhouse Turbo Installed!!!! - 5/21/2006 7:09:26 PM   
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Jimp I could be wrong but my understang is a V6 driveshaft won't work with a 8.8 rearend which is what is in Mikes car.


Well I talked to Mike about a replacement driveshaft and he said they are still using the stock V6 driveshaft. He was very clear about this. So i guess it does work.

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