Lmao; boosted Honda running against a stock LT1.
http://videos.streetfire.net/comment/0/62F23963-AA6D-4D29-AE7B-6983EC135B41.htm

ROFL. he did keep up w/ him tho. so, thats really not THAT bad.....

best part about the video is in the description it says LS1 when it really is an LT1, hes trying to make him self look better lol

ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH

ROFL. he did keep up w/ him tho. so, thats really not THAT bad.....


Yeah, but had they kept going the LT1 woulda started to walk him pretty bad.

Nice video. Looked like a 96-00 Civic of some sort.

I thought it was funny how the passenger in the Camaro was making the hand gestures like they were reeling him in or something.

for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood :D

ORIGINAL: bharsen

for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood :D


96-00 Civic - 3-6k

b18b - 3k

DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k

tops? 12k... maybe. Who knows, I would like some background information on the LT1 myself. It could have been modded and in the 13s for all we know.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si


ORIGINAL: bharsen

for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood :D


96-00 Civic - 3-6k

b18b - 3k

DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k

tops? 12k... maybe. Who knows, I would like some background information on the LT1 myself. It could have been modded and in the 13s for all we know.


So you spend 12K on a car, mostly right out of pocket, and you have at the best a mid 14 second car? If the LT1 was running high 13s the civic wouldn't have at the strip (with a 2.2 60')

You could do all that, or just buy a LT1/PI 4.6 and run that stock, with a far more streetable and reilable setup. (stock car vs motor swapped turbo'd car).

Seriously, if your not gonna buy a WRX or evo I don't see what the point is. If you can't launch it on the street, espcially if you make any real power, whats the point? What are you gonna do, go prowl the highways on friday nights???

Are you really that convinced that FWD cars with 200 whp can't launch well? There comes a time when you have to realize that they make some nice street legal DRs for Civics too.

Seriously. I know launching a VERY high hp FWD car will be difficult, but a 2300 lb Civic hatch doesn't need more than 250 WHEEL hp to run 13s.

Seriously, do you think everyone wants to have a car payment or high insurance from having a V8 or newer EVO/WRX?

Last I checked having a 400 hp RWD car on street tires is hard to launch in and of itself. That doesn't mean they don't make sticky tires for that application.

Get your head out of your ass 2000GT, you're a smart guy. You should be able to figure out WHY people choose to buy and build what they want. Besides that fun stuff, all I did was give an ESTIMATE of what it could cost if the person doing the build isn't a Full out tech head DIY'er. Not to mention you have no idea how fast it really is. Was he running low boost? What kind of turbo did he source? You can't sit here and talk down about it because of what you think he's running vs an LT1 that you have no idea of what it's possible mods are.

Assumptions make you look like an ass.

Take CivicSleeper, I believe his setup cost him probably around 6 grand total (if I remember right... including the cost of the car).

Can you do that with your 2000 GT? um... nope. sorry.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

Are you really that convinced that FWD cars with 200 whp can't launch well? There comes a time when you have to realize that they make some nice street legal DRs for Civics too.

Seriously. I know launching a VERY high hp FWD car will be difficult, but a 2300 lb Civic hatch doesn't need more than 250 WHEEL hp to run 13s.

Seriously, do you think everyone wants to have a car payment or high insurance from having a V8 or newer EVO/WRX?

Last I checked having a 400 hp RWD car on street tires is hard to launch in and of itself. That doesn't mean they don't make sticky tires for that application.

Get your head out of your ass 2000GT, you're a smart guy. You should be able to figure out WHY people choose to buy and build what they want. Besides that fun stuff, all I did was give an ESTIMATE of what it could cost if the person doing the build isn't a Full out tech head DIY'er. Not to mention you have no idea how fast it really is. Was he running low boost? What kind of turbo did he source? You can't sit here and talk down about it because of what you think he's running vs an LT1 that you have no idea of what it's possible mods are.

Assumptions make you look like an ass.

Take CivicSleeper, I believe his setup cost him probably around 6 grand total (if I remember right... including the cost of the car).

Can you do that with your 2000 GT? um... nope. sorry.


Show me ONE 13 second GT vs 13 second civic video where they race on the street, from a stop, and the GT loses. Hell, lets see a civic video with any appreciable power racing from a stop.

Take the escort guys over there on that forum. The fastest guy that acutally has video evidence to prove it is running like 300 WHP at 19 PSI or thereabouts. He was running 26 PSI at the track and can't break into the 13s. His 60' on street tires was a 2.5!!!

I can say one thing about my GT, in all of the time I have owned it, I have never backed down from a race, and I lost/tied plenty of them. And I have never lost to anything with less than 8 cyl from a stop, unless its AWD. I know it could easily be done, and i know there is probably someone ready to say "come down to xx and I will wax your ass" but that must say something about the 4cyl vs v8 arguement.

And don't talk to me about total money invested, thats ricer bs. I can take a foxbody and make it run pretty dammed fast too for 6 grand. Hell, MM&FF had a bone stock car except the 4,000 dollar hellion kit and a new trans run 10s, and it could hook on the street.

And btw, your gonna run drag radials on your DD FWD car? I don't think so. I would hafve seen your funeral notice the first time it rained and you were on the highway.

Add on top of all of this, who wants to drive around a motor swapped aftermarket boosted 13 second car????? If I had to swap the motor and add boost to run 13s I would drive the car off a cliff and take up bingo.

Add on top of all of this, who wants to drive around a motor swapped aftermarket boosted 13 second car????? If I had to swap the motor and add boost to run 13s I would drive the car off a cliff and take up bingo.

That's funny, cause you had to add boost to run 13s... isn't a vortech kit just about as much as a b18b? haha

Give it up... you know jack **** about Hondas yet still continue to talk like you do. It gets tiring listening to the same nonsense come from you day after day.

Who says these cars are some of these guys daily drivers? Christ. I guess because someone owns and modifies a Honda they're not rich enough to have 2 or more cars?

And don't talk to me about total money invested, thats ricer bs. I can take a foxbody and make it run pretty dammed fast too for 6 grand. Hell, MM&FF had a bone stock car except the 4,000 dollar hellion kit and a new trans run 10s, and it could hook on the street.

No, no you won't run 10s and still be able to hook on the street. Not without DOT approved DRs... but then I'd like to see you drive on the highway the first time it rains. :eek:

Pull your foot out of your mouth 2000.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

Add on top of all of this, who wants to drive around a motor swapped aftermarket boosted 13 second car????? If I had to swap the motor and add boost to run 13s I would drive the car off a cliff and take up bingo.

That's funny, cause you had to add boost to run 13s... isn't a vortech kit just about as much as a b18b? haha

Give it up... you know jack **** about Hondas yet still continue to talk like you do. It gets tiring listening to the same nonsense come from you day after day.

Who says these cars are some of these guys daily drivers? Christ. I guess because someone owns and modifies a Honda they're not rich enough to have 2 or more cars?

And don't talk to me about total money invested, thats ricer bs. I can take a foxbody and make it run pretty dammed fast too for 6 grand. Hell, MM&FF had a bone stock car except the 4,000 dollar hellion kit and a new trans run 10s, and it could hook on the street.

No, no you won't run 10s and still be able to hook on the street. Not without DOT approved DRs... but then I'd like to see you drive on the highway the first time it rains. :eek:

Pull your foot out of your mouth 2000.


First of all, where did this come from? I never claimed to know alot about hondas, and more often than not I am the one defending the poor ricer when everyone is picking on em.

I didn't have to add boost to run 13s by any amount. My car was high 12s capable N/A! I added boost to go 11s on drag raidals, and mid 11s on slicks.

Just for the sake of argument, lets replace "daily drivers" with "streetable cars that can race from a stop".

And my car, while not exactly a daily driver, gets driven in the rain with drag radials on it fairly often. (and has for 3+ years) Point being is that it doesn't have drag radials on the STEERING tires.

Seriously, lets get down to brass tacks here. The LT1 didn't even have a aftermarket exhaust, whats the chance its running any better than a 14.0 or so on average? And from a ROLL the mighty motor swapped/turbo'd civic gets waxed. If that civic runs a 14.50 he is doing well.

So, your motor swapped/turbo'd car that you have put all of this work and time in cannot win a drag race with a stock auto GT from a stop. Doesn't that make you just feel like it was all worth it????

Add on to all of this, your driving a car that orginally was intended as a economy car like a performance car, with far more horsepower than it was ever designed to handle (frame/drivetrain/brakes/suspension). At least the V8 and WRX/EVO cars are built with performance in mind.

Once again I use the escort guys as an example. The guy has a 300+ RWHP car that wieghs 2500 pounds, but its got tiny little brake rotors, he can't run anything stickyer than a regular raidal at the strip without tearing out the trans, its simply too much for the car.

Looked like the newer style to me, so i think it has an LS-1... not LT-1 but im not sure.

Seriously, lets get down to brass tacks here. The LT1 didn't even have a aftermarket exhaust, whats the chance its running any better than a 14.0 or so on average? And from a ROLL the mighty motor swapped/turbo'd civic gets waxed. If that civic runs a 14.50 he is doing well.

So, your motor swapped/turbo'd car that you have put all of this work and time in cannot win a drag race with a stock auto GT from a stop. Doesn't that make you just feel like it was all worth it????

What is the whole basis on your arguement? You're making wild claims about a car and a race you know nothing about. OH OH THE Z28 doesn't have aftermarket exhaust! holy **** that makes a difference! Cause you need new exhaust to possibly spray, or have a blower! right? yeah. Don't think so.

I've watched videos of swapped turbo'd cars running 12s and being daily driven mop the floor with LS1s and modified GTs. But of course being on a Mustang board you have a biased opinion because everyone here is too scared to post being killed by anything less that domestic muscle.

My point behind all this is you have no idea what's done, and hell we don't even know if that Civic is swapped or not. But your arguement is based all around biased opinions and your personal assumptions. Good for you. You don't know what you're talking about.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

Seriously, lets get down to brass tacks here. The LT1 didn't even have a aftermarket exhaust, whats the chance its running any better than a 14.0 or so on average? And from a ROLL the mighty motor swapped/turbo'd civic gets waxed. If that civic runs a 14.50 he is doing well.

So, your motor swapped/turbo'd car that you have put all of this work and time in cannot win a drag race with a stock auto GT from a stop. Doesn't that make you just feel like it was all worth it????

What is the whole basis on your arguement? You're making wild claims about a car and a race you know nothing about. OH OH THE Z28 doesn't have aftermarket exhaust! holy **** that makes a difference! Cause you need new exhaust to possibly spray, or have a blower! right? yeah. Don't think so.

I've watched videos of swapped turbo'd cars running 12s and being daily driven mop the floor with LS1s and modified GTs. But of course being on a Mustang board you have a biased opinion because everyone here is too scared to post being killed by anything less that domestic muscle.

My point behind all this is you have no idea what's done, and hell we don't even know if that Civic is swapped or not. But your arguement is based all around biased opinions and your personal assumptions. Good for you. You don't know what you're talking about.


well, since you seem to know everything about em and all, you should be able to tell us about how fast that car should be with that swap and setup.

The LT1 looked and sounded stock to me. Even the catback sounded stock, who runs around on a 12 second car with a stock catback?

Plus, they just wern't going thru the gears that fast. Its pretty easy to tell how fast a car is by how often they are shifting. I bet the LT1 had a K&N at best.

So whats a motor swapped/turbo car worth will full weight and a street tire?? Enlighten us.

You can't tell me its gonna go much faster than mid/high 13s with what he has done and a street tire.

Theres a guy up in my hometown with a civic that runs mid 12s on slicks. And he runs mid 14s on street tires. And on the street, he gets beat by stock GTs.....

Honestly, you telling me if you want to build a good streetable setup to drive on the weekends and get in the ocassional street race with, your gonna build a FWD turbo car??? Seriously.......

It's been done, you just have to learn how to drive. It doesn't take that much skill to keep a high hp high redlining car from spinning off a launch. It's called not revving the piss out of it and dumping the clutch.

What's all this about? Is this about cost? Because you didn't start this shenanigans until I ESTIMATED costs.

It's seemingly obvious that even with your intelligence you won't understand the point of preference. Ever.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

It's been done, you just have to learn how to drive. It doesn't take that much skill to keep a high hp high redlining car from spinning off a launch. It's called not revving the piss out of it and dumping the clutch.

What's all this about? Is this about cost? Because you didn't start this shenanigans until I ESTIMATED costs.

It's seemingly obvious that even with your intelligence you won't understand the point of preference. Ever.


The point here is that no matter what, you will always have problems hooking up no matter what tire you run. You can't run slicks on the street, and I can only imagine what running a drag raidal on the front tires is like (nightmare)

The point is you have a motor swap and a turbo done, and at least this guy can't even dream of hitting 13s.

The point is your in an economy car with 300+ WHP. Its simply doing something it was never intended to do. My GT was certainly no race car from the factory, but I am running a dead stock suspension and brake setup and its doing a pretty decent job. I don't think you can say this about a civic DX.

The point is, everyone IS allowed to have their opinion. In my opinion there isn't much appeal, and i don't see what people see in it. From my point of view, all you have done is throw alot of time and money into a car, and your still getting beat by 14 second cars. It sounds like ****, it's not too streetable, its overpowered, and you can't race anyone from a stop. Whats the fun in that? What can I do with it on friday night??


Once more, the escort guys. I have some resepect for them, and I think its great he runs around whipping people with a freaking escort. But I would never build one. Look at all that he has invested in it, and its still not even a 13 second car. And thats simply not enough to get it done anymore.

The point is you have a motor swap and a turbo done, and at least this guy can't even dream of hitting 13s.


Once more, the escort guys. I have some resepect for them, and I think its great he runs around whipping people with a freaking escort. But I would never build one. Look at all that he has invested in it, and its still not even a 13 second car. And thats simply not enough to get it done anymore.

You're too funny.

First sentence: How do you know that? I've seen quite a few people with just a turbo kit and suspension pop thirteens all day on street tires in their Civics.

Go to Hondaswap, or Honda-tech. You'll find hundreds of 13, 12 and 11 second Civics and Integras. Yes, street legal and some daily driven. You just don't get the point. It's possible, but not everyone wants one.

I don't even care about the Escort part of this. The aftermarket for those cars is TINY as hell. There's only one place that sells worth while modifications, and they don't even have a broad selection.

while we are on the subject of slow cars made fast with a swap.... maybe it will cool down the argument some:D
http://mallettcars.com/solstice-conversion.htm
http://www.bishopsales.com/feature_cars_bishop_mazda_v8_miata_3.html

I wouldn't mind that soltice conversion, an LS7 in a solstice [sm=drooldude.gif]

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

It's been done, you just have to learn how to drive. It doesn't take that much skill to keep a high hp high redlining car from spinning off a launch. It's called not revving the piss out of it and dumping the clutch.

What's all this about? Is this about cost? Because you didn't start this shenanigans until I ESTIMATED costs.

It's seemingly obvious that even with your intelligence you won't understand the point of preference. Ever.



Good post.. except the part about taking skill to not spin a high power FWD car.. from my experience at the track and what I have seen it looks like it takes a TON of skill to get a good launch out of FWD, very rarely have I seen it happen.

But for the most part I agree with you, preference IS a huge part of it, and seems to be overlooked by some others here.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

The point is you have a motor swap and a turbo done, and at least this guy can't even dream of hitting 13s.


Once more, the escort guys. I have some resepect for them, and I think its great he runs around whipping people with a freaking escort. But I would never build one. Look at all that he has invested in it, and its still not even a 13 second car. And thats simply not enough to get it done anymore.

You're too funny.

First sentence: How do you know that? I've seen quite a few people with just a turbo kit and suspension pop thirteens all day on street tires in their Civics.

Go to Hondaswap, or Honda-tech. You'll find hundreds of 13, 12 and 11 second Civics and Integras. Yes, street legal and some daily driven. You just don't get the point. It's possible, but not everyone wants one.

I don't even care about the Escort part of this. The aftermarket for those cars is TINY as hell. There's only one place that sells worth while modifications, and they don't even have a broad selection.


The whole point is, what did that guy supposedly do? He motor swapped and turbod a car, and it won't run 13s by all the evidence present.

Do you not think what this guy is pathetic? Do you not think that you would be embarassed with his setup?

This is all I am saying. I don't really like the entire FWD setup for me, but I have seen some pretty cool cars. But 99 percent of them are from roll runs, and none of them can launch all that well on the street.

It is simply not for me. I want to run around in a low 12 second car thats totally streetable and will hookup well without spending the money to make it a 10 second strip car.

Oh, and real nice sig. Although the problem is I bought a used GT for 16 grand. I never claimed it was the fastest price per dollar car out there. Far from it. And if your motor swapped turbo car here can't even run with a dead stock 260 horsepower 4.6L (at least in this video it would'nt from a stop) thats pretty dammed sad.

On the other hand, I wanted to buy a newer car that still had a decent aftermarket, not pay a super high insurance payment, have a low car payment, and would be fun right from the start. And look good.

I don't see this happening with a 6K total invested civic.

dude i've seen some quick honda/acuras with a motor and turbo so watch out is all i gotta say....check this out from 1320video.com..its a civic the have on video

JDM B16 Swap
Place Racing Motormounts
Interga Xsi Camshafts (Larger than Stock B16's)
DC Sports Header (4-2-1)
Generic Intake
Custom 2.5 Exhaust
Centerforce Clutch
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM Fuel Rail
2G DSM Fuel Pump
NGK Plugs
OEM Honda Wires
Nitrous Express Wet Kit 75hp Jets

Car has Ran 12.92 @ 108.9mph and backed it up 4 times

http://1320video.com/vids/coryfeature.wmv


its not my style but fast is fast man

p.s....u owe me one 2000si, j/k hahaha

ORIGINAL: whiteyford0212

dude i've seen some quick honda/acuras with a motor and turbo so watch out is all i gotta say....check this out from 1320video.com..its a civic the have on video

JDM B16 Swap
Place Racing Motormounts
Interga Xsi Camshafts (Larger than Stock B16's)
DC Sports Header (4-2-1)
Generic Intake
Custom 2.5 Exhaust
Centerforce Clutch
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AEM Fuel Rail
2G DSM Fuel Pump
NGK Plugs
OEM Honda Wires
Nitrous Express Wet Kit 75hp Jets

Car has Ran 12.92 @ 108.9mph and backed it up 4 times

http://1320video.com/vids/coryfeature.wmv


its not my style but fast is fast man

p.s....u owe me one 2000si, j/k hahaha


A motor swap and nitrous and hes running a 12.92 on tires he cannot run on the street.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I am not saying it cannot be done by any means. But what was his 60' there? What would it be like on the street against something more than a stock GT? (with tires he can run around on?)

Your running around with a motor swapped/cam'd/nitrous car and stock LS1s will take you from a dig on the street? Come on.

I was DEPRESSED about how my car did against my buddies stock LS1, and I all had done was boltons and cams (and I won). I would be embarassed to run him on the street with all that work done (civic) and lose.

I guess its just me. Like I said, nobody is gonna get there mind changed here, just agree to disagree. All I said was I don't see why they do it. I didn't say it couldn't be done.

right on man..its comparing apples to oranges so each his own

ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

The point is you have a motor swap and a turbo done, and at least this guy can't even dream of hitting 13s.


Once more, the escort guys. I have some resepect for them, and I think its great he runs around whipping people with a freaking escort. But I would never build one. Look at all that he has invested in it, and its still not even a 13 second car. And thats simply not enough to get it done anymore.

You're too funny.

First sentence: How do you know that? I've seen quite a few people with just a turbo kit and suspension pop thirteens all day on street tires in their Civics.

Go to Hondaswap, or Honda-tech. You'll find hundreds of 13, 12 and 11 second Civics and Integras. Yes, street legal and some daily driven. You just don't get the point. It's possible, but not everyone wants one.

I don't even care about the Escort part of this. The aftermarket for those cars is TINY as hell. There's only one place that sells worth while modifications, and they don't even have a broad selection.


The whole point is, what did that guy supposedly do? He motor swapped and turbod a car, and it won't run 13s by all the evidence present.

Do you not think what this guy is pathetic? Do you not think that you would be embarassed with his setup?

This is all I am saying. I don't really like the entire FWD setup for me, but I have seen some pretty cool cars. But 99 percent of them are from roll runs, and none of them can launch all that well on the street.

It is simply not for me. I want to run around in a low 12 second car thats totally streetable and will hookup well without spending the money to make it a 10 second strip car.

Oh, and real nice sig. Although the problem is I bought a used GT for 16 grand. I never claimed it was the fastest price per dollar car out there. Far from it. And if your motor swapped turbo car here can't even run with a dead stock 260 horsepower 4.6L (at least in this video it would'nt from a stop) thats pretty dammed sad.

On the other hand, I wanted to buy a newer car that still had a decent aftermarket, not pay a super high insurance payment, have a low car payment, and would be fun right from the start. And look good.

I don't see this happening with a 6K total invested civic.


No I wouldn't. I have put 2k into my car, well sort of. Only have two things installed so far, but by the time I'm done spending money on my car I have 11k worth of modifications planned out.

What will I run? PROBABLY low 14s. Will I be happy? Darn skippy! I, personally, am not looking to set any expensive 11 second goals or try to race modified Z06s/Cobras/Vipers.

You're setting this guy up to look like all he really cares about is drag racing. Did he choose the best platform for that? Of course not. I'm not going to argue with that point (even though it hasn't been brought up), but my point is is that my guestimations on what he's spent could be right on, or could be WAY high. You're basing everything you've said around that, and it's just annoying when you're taking my guesses as gospel and making Civics sound absolutely pathetic when you don't know how much he's spent, don't know what kind of times he's running, don't know what he has done, don't know what kind of boost settings he may be able to change back and forth. It just gets a little annoying when you turn assumptions into arguements.

That being said; I could bargain build a Civic with a GT28RS and a swapped B series for under 4 grand that would dead even with a stock LS1. Or I could just buy an LS1 and have to drive a GM product around worrying about if it's going to die on me. But on top of all that, spending another 700 on a suspension setup and good tires for corner carving and the LS1 wouldn't be able to run it's great top end speed while getting it's slightly heavy ass handed to it.

At least half of the regulars with built Civics/Del Sols/Integras on HT or HS really could give two ****s about drag racing. They build cars to run in auto crosses and other such events... if you can't figure out my point by now it's just no use to carry this out any further.

I know you think it's pathetic that he 'only runs 14s' but you don't know that. So your arguement is nothing more than moot assumptions.

Like I said, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.


I can't resist pointing out though that a FWD car is simply the absolute worst platform to start off with autocrossing. I don't know why anyone would want to pick the civic to get into autocross.

Also, if he is "not into drag racing" then why is he drag racing?

I have alot of friends with ls swpped turbo civics running 15lbs of boost and running 14.6 or street tires and they spin alot, both are 95's 5sp. i put four cars on them both in a 3 lane highway race 0-120. Now 75-120 i put 2 and they caught up and 120-130 they put .5 cars on me. they have about 3 grand + car into it and still kinda slow. but i can't touch H22 swapped turbo civics, my buddy has one in a 2001 SI body. wicked just built i do not know what he runs, and he smoked me from 50mph on. He was running 12lbs of boost.

ORIGINAL: 2000GT4.6

Like I said, I guess we will have to agree to disagree.


I can't resist pointing out though that a FWD car is simply the absolute worst platform to start off with autocrossing. I don't know why anyone would want to pick the civic to get into autocross.

Also, if he is "not into drag racing" then why is he drag racing?


I'm not into drag racing, but every couple of months I'll put the engine through it's paces against someone.

A FWD car is NOT the worst platform to start off with in autocrossing. About hte only thing a built suspension civic can't handle is a Miata with a built suspension.

Blown Civic -vs- stock 13.9 sec. LT1.
LT1 still pulls ahead... These ricers will never learn, LOL...

96-00 Civic - 3-6k

b18b - 3k

DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k

... whats your point here?? add that up and your at an average of about what 9000??? so you just spent 9000 on a car that was meant to be driven by my grandma exept that hopefully she would at least repect her own country and not buy a car made in japan that the workers were payed barely enough to live off of... and thats also while american auto workers are all losing their jobs because they cant afford to make the **** that they pay people in Japan.. youd think that you people would would like your own country enough to at least support them.. but enough of that **** anyways back to the cars.. so now you got 9000 into a honda that sounds like a weedwacker .. what do you think that you cant get a stock 93-96 lt1 for less than 12,000?? i see them all the time for like 5,000 so now they got a stock 5,000 dollar car running the same as your swapped enging and turbo honda... put a supercharger and slicks on the lt1 and your running what like in the 11's probably ... so where is youre comparison here at all?? and if you want to make it even worse i could get a fox body stang for like a couple thousand and have the thing running less than 10's after putting in as much as you spent on the Honda

ORIGINAL: stlboiiii

96-00 Civic - 3-6k

b18b - 3k

DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k

... whats your point here?? add that up and your at an average of about what 9000??? so you just spent 9000 on a car that was meant to be driven by my grandma exept that hopefully she would at least repect her own country and not buy a car made in japan that the workers were payed barely enough to live off of... and thats also while american auto workers are all losing their jobs because they cant afford to make the **** that they pay people in Japan.. youd think that you people would would like your own country enough to at least support them.. but enough of that **** anyways back to the cars.. so now you got 9000 into a honda that sounds like a weedwacker .. what do you think that you cant get a stock 93-96 lt1 for less than 12,000?? i see them all the time for like 5,000 so now they got a stock 5,000 dollar car running the same as your swapped enging and turbo honda... put a supercharger and slicks on the lt1 and your running what like in the 11's probably ... so where is youre comparison here at all?? and if you want to make it even worse i could get a fox body stang for like a couple thousand and have the thing running less than 10's after putting in as much as you spent on the Honda


HAHAHA!!! I was wondering when this was going to be brought up.

Good first post n00b, too bad you're DEAD WRONG!

My car's final assembly point. MARYSVILLE OHIO. Yes that's right, that's IN THE UNITED STATES. Built by AMERICAN workers.

Where were your mustangs built? Windsor Canada... by Canadians? haha Where's GM and Ford moving their plants to? What's that? Mexico?

Give me a break. My car is every bit as American built as YOURS is.

Gotta love uninformed smoke blowers.

Put a charger and slicks on an LT1 and you'll going to be well into the 13s, but nowhere near 11s. I hope you learned something. Don't speak out unless you have your facts straight.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si


ORIGINAL: stlboiiii

96-00 Civic - 3-6k

b18b - 3k

DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k

... whats your point here?? add that up and your at an average of about what 9000??? so you just spent 9000 on a car that was meant to be driven by my grandma exept that hopefully she would at least repect her own country and not buy a car made in japan that the workers were payed barely enough to live off of... and thats also while american auto workers are all losing their jobs because they cant afford to make the **** that they pay people in Japan.. youd think that you people would would like your own country enough to at least support them.. but enough of that **** anyways back to the cars.. so now you got 9000 into a honda that sounds like a weedwacker .. what do you think that you cant get a stock 93-96 lt1 for less than 12,000?? i see them all the time for like 5,000 so now they got a stock 5,000 dollar car running the same as your swapped enging and turbo honda... put a supercharger and slicks on the lt1 and your running what like in the 11's probably ... so where is youre comparison here at all?? and if you want to make it even worse i could get a fox body stang for like a couple thousand and have the thing running less than 10's after putting in as much as you spent on the Honda


HAHAHA!!! I was wondering when this was going to be brought up.

Good first post n00b, too bad you're DEAD WRONG!

My car's final assembly point. MARYSVILLE OHIO. Yes that's right, that's IN THE UNITED STATES. Built by AMERICAN workers.

Where were your mustangs built? Windsor Canada... by Canadians? haha Where's GM and Ford moving their plants to? What's that? Mexico?

Give me a break. My car is every bit as American built as YOURS is.

Gotta love uninformed smoke blowers.

Put a charger and slicks on an LT1 and you'll going to be well into the 13s, but nowhere near 11s. I hope you learned something. Don't speak out unless you have your facts straight.



Not that I agree with ANYTHING he said about import vs domestic (I work in a plastics company every day and we make parts for imports and domestics side by side )

However, a blown/slicks LT1 will not be running 13s lol.

Hell a slicks only LT1 runs mid 13s.

Seriously dude.

And not much can handle a "worked" civic on the track other than miatas, and worked mustangs/camaros, and basically stock evos, WRX, Z06, a few suspesion mods on a vette.

I mean, are you serious? Have you tried to take a turn in a FWD car while applying throttle lately? That strange half sideways motion you are feeling is the car plowing thru the turn spinning the drive tires.

Its simple physics. You have 2 tires to both turn and power the car, while a RWD/AWD has 4.

RWD (though certianly not my car specifically) is simply the best performance platform for any type of performance driving you could ask for.

Why does Indy car run RWD? Why Nascar?

Why do I not see ANY civics owning up at the local autox events?

Im done dude, it doesn't matter anyway.

a civic can be crazy given the right mods... but then again any car can be crazy given the right mods...
but if one can do this with no nitrous I give it props nontheless
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/civic+si/0/2A5277A4-AF7C-4068-9847-4176887B7BF4.htm

and this vortech SI hooks just fine...
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/civic+si/2/D433D4F2-4D9F-45D3-9EB5-A29C8C697DF8.htm

they can be deadly if you have the time and the patience with the right size wallet...

ok for one my car was built in detroit not Canada. and even tho some foreign brands are made in factories in America dont mean ****, still most of them are built in Japan while most fords and gm's are made in america and more of our parts are made here while most of yours are made in Japan... and when you go buy a honda whos corporation is that going to?? Even if its built here its still supporting Japan. If my mustang wasnt built here then i wouldnt have bought it... and thats not even the point here its that your import **** is weak... its made to be weak and yeah it can be somewhat fast with a bunch of **** put into it but ours are made fast and can be just as much faster with the parts we can put into them... Where the hell do you get that a lt1 with blower and slicks will be in the 13's???? theyre high 13 low 14 seconds STOCK so a blower and slicks is only gonna lower .5 second ??? I cant stand you people that are on japans nuts n **** i mean what ****en country are you from??

ORIGINAL: stlboiiii

ok for one my car was built in detroit not Canada. and even tho some foreign brands are made in factories in America dont mean ****, still most of them are built in Japan while most fords and gm's are made in america and more of our parts are made here while most of yours are made in Japan... and when you go buy a honda whos corporation is that going to?? Even if its built here its still supporting Japan. If my mustang wasnt built here then i wouldnt have bought it... and thats not even the point here its that your import **** is weak... its made to be weak and yeah it can be somewhat fast with a bunch of **** put into it but ours are made fast and can be just as much faster with the parts we can put into them... Where the hell do you get that a lt1 with blower and slicks will be in the 13's???? theyre high 13 low 14 seconds STOCK so a blower and slicks is only gonna lower .5 second ??? I cant stand you people that are on japans nuts n **** i mean what ****en country are you from??



blah blah blah. You DO NOT know what you're talking about.

My car was used 60% parts that were BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES, and my final assembly point was IN THE UNITED STATES.

Where as your car, as well as half of GMs cars were assembled in either Mexico or Canada. Give it a rest. You're not right.

The profits go back to Japan blah blah. Last I checked we were Allies and traded along side of purchasing from them. Dude Just give it a rest. I'm JUST as American as you are, so cut this bull**** patriotic idiocy out. I'm on Japans nuts huh? Yeah, where was your computers processor made? Malaysia? I don't see you supporting the US on that one. You obviously have no idea where half the electronics you buy are made. Don't even get me started about your being a redneck and only shopping at walmart. Chinaman!

GIVE IT A ****ING REST.

I mean, are you serious? Have you tried to take a turn in a FWD car while applying throttle lately? That strange half sideways motion you are feeling is the car plowing thru the turn spinning the drive tires.

Hello? It's called a Limited Slip Differential. Learn about what it does.

Its simple physics. You have 2 tires to both turn and power the car, while a RWD/AWD has 4.

'preciate that. I didn't know that, I'll be sure to write that down just in case I forget again.

RWD (though certianly not my car specifically) is simply the best performance platform for any type of performance driving you could ask for.

Why does Indy car run RWD? Why Nascar?

Why do I not see ANY civics owning up at the local autox events?

1. No, it isn't. Sorry. There are too many types of racing. You simply THINK it's the best because that's all that anyone uses. It's apparently you've never driven a built Civic, or watched one not spin at the tracks. I congratulate you on your experiences with bad drivers.

Why do you not see ANY Civics? Probably because you're watching the near stock class compete.

And not much can handle a "worked" civic on the track other than miatas, and worked mustangs/camaros, and basically stock evos, WRX, Z06, a few suspesion mods on a vette.

Yup, because people buy Mustangs/Camaros to go Autocrossing with them. :eek: Last Mustang I saw autocrossing slammed into a tree in the middle of the parking lot after spinning out because he was taking the corners too hard on stock suspension thinking his brute force was all he needed.

I can't even comprehend what kind of 'track' you're thinking of here. I don't want to, because I was talking about autocrossing where the smaller cars are going to win.

Im done dude, it doesn't matter anyway.

Matters enough to you apparently for you to show your ignorant side about FWD drivetrains.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si


ORIGINAL: stlboiiii

ok for one my car was built in detroit not Canada. and even tho some foreign brands are made in factories in America dont mean ****, still most of them are built in Japan while most fords and gm's are made in america and more of our parts are made here while most of yours are made in Japan... and when you go buy a honda whos corporation is that going to?? Even if its built here its still supporting Japan. If my mustang wasnt built here then i wouldnt have bought it... and thats not even the point here its that your import **** is weak... its made to be weak and yeah it can be somewhat fast with a bunch of **** put into it but ours are made fast and can be just as much faster with the parts we can put into them... Where the hell do you get that a lt1 with blower and slicks will be in the 13's???? theyre high 13 low 14 seconds STOCK so a blower and slicks is only gonna lower .5 second ??? I cant stand you people that are on japans nuts n **** i mean what ****en country are you from??



blah blah blah. You DO NOT know what you're talking about.

My car was used 60% parts that were BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES, and my final assembly point was IN THE UNITED STATES.

Where as your car, as well as half of GMs cars were assembled in either Mexico or Canada. Give it a rest. You're not right.

The profits go back to Japan blah blah. Last I checked we were Allies and traded along side of purchasing from them. Dude Just give it a rest. I'm JUST as American as you are, so cut this bull**** patriotic idiocy out. I'm on Japans nuts huh? Yeah, where was your computers processor made? Malaysia? I don't see you supporting the US on that one. You obviously have no idea where half the electronics you buy are made. Don't even get me started about your being a redneck and only shopping at walmart. Chinaman!

GIVE IT A ****ING REST.

I mean, are you serious? Have you tried to take a turn in a FWD car while applying throttle lately? That strange half sideways motion you are feeling is the car plowing thru the turn spinning the drive tires.

Hello? It's called a Limited Slip Differential. Learn about what it does.

Its simple physics. You have 2 tires to both turn and power the car, while a RWD/AWD has 4.

'preciate that. I didn't know that, I'll be sure to write that down just in case I forget again.

RWD (though certianly not my car specifically) is simply the best performance platform for any type of performance driving you could ask for.

Why does Indy car run RWD? Why Nascar?

Why do I not see ANY civics owning up at the local autox events?

1. No, it isn't. Sorry. There are too many types of racing. You simply THINK it's the best because that's all that anyone uses. It's apparently you've never driven a built Civic, or watched one not spin at the tracks. I congratulate you on your experiences with bad drivers.

Why do you not see ANY Civics? Probably because you're watching the near stock class compete.

And not much can handle a "worked" civic on the track other than miatas, and worked mustangs/camaros, and basically stock evos, WRX, Z06, a few suspesion mods on a vette.

Yup, because people buy Mustangs/Camaros to go Autocrossing with them. :eek: Last Mustang I saw autocrossing slammed into a tree in the middle of the parking lot after spinning out because he was taking the corners too hard on stock suspension thinking his brute force was all he needed.

I can't even comprehend what kind of 'track' you're thinking of here. I don't want to, because I was talking about autocrossing where the smaller cars are going to win.

Im done dude, it doesn't matter anyway.

Matters enough to you apparently for you to show your ignorant side about FWD drivetrains.

I like waffles.

unicorns are better dude... they frolick

wow this is a cat fight.
btw i've driven my friend's 92 civic hatch with a EuroR = 11:1 compression h22 with a single plane manifold. it walks off on LS1s on the highway AND takes them early in the quarter. Fwhp 215 and Fwtrq 190. he CAN launch the sucker. it just takes good driving

blah blah blah. You DO NOT know what you're talking about.

My car was used 60% parts that were BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES, and my final assembly point was IN THE UNITED STATES.

Where as your car, as well as half of GMs cars were assembled in either Mexico or Canada. Give it a rest. You're not right.

The profits go back to Japan blah blah. Last I checked we were Allies and traded along side of purchasing from them. Dude Just give it a rest. I'm JUST as American as you are, so cut this **** patriotic idiocy out. I'm on Japans nuts huh? Yeah, where was your computers processor made? Malaysia? I don't see you supporting the US on that one. You obviously have no idea where half the electronics you buy are made. Don't even get me started about your being a redneck and only shopping at walmart. Chinaman!

GIVE IT A ****ING REST.

For one i doubt that 60 percent of your cars parts were built in the U.S. Go look at were 98 cobras are made dumbass its detroit. Then the profits go right back to FORD which has most of its plants in the U.S. not just a few like Honda. Is that the best you can come up with that were allies... Why dont you go to Japan and see if theyre driving american cars there... no because their people i guess arent idiots like most people in America and wouldnt support a different country... Find me a computer that was built in the America and ill sell mine and go get it right now.. if theyre wasnt U.S. made cars then i guess id have to buy a foreign one if i didnt shoot myself first before i got in one.. im far from a redneck and I never shop at wal mart or any non union stores unless i have to. and even without all that your cars still weak as hell .. since when did males like little engines and small things that sound like **** and arent even fast ?

Do you even know where GM builds their cars? next your goin to tell me there isn't a ford transmission plant just above cincinnati. do some research. My grand am was built in Ohio last time i checked we are still in the US. in case you forgot they were one of the most sold American cars in the US. i gave up reading the argument, but honda's are highway racers period, light turbo fwd= HIGHWAY high speed, period.... my ol TL was built in Japan shipped here, drove for 138,XXX and was reliable, who cares about the rest?

since when did males like little engines and small things that sound like **** and arent even fast ?

Ever since they don't need a large V8 engine to make up for their lack of length, perhaps?

But seriously, I saw my window sticker, as well as the window sticker for the 02-05 Civic Si's. 60% of the parts used in the car were built/manufactured in the United States. As well as the CAR that was built in Marysville, Ohio. If you've never seen the plant, get on US33 between Fort Wayne, IN and Columbus, OH. Still don't believe me? Honda is trying to find a place near either Lafayette, IN and some place in Van Wert County Ohio to build it's new 1.5 BILLION dollar auto manufacuring plant. Lets not forget Subaru of America who is headquartered in Indiana and is partially owned by GM. Not American enough for you? How about Toyota? With numerous models being built, ONCE AGAIN, in INDIANA.

So I say again, ENOUGH of this bull**** patriotic crap from your mouth. The construction of my car put a paycheck in numerous AMERICAN worker's pockets.

Meanwhile GM is shutting down plants which is causing their suppliers to either go bankrupt or start making parts for Japanese models BUILT IN THE US.

One of the customers of my job; AmCast, which is in Gas City Indiana is declaring bankruptcy thanks to GM going down the tube.

You want American pride? How about the overpaid underworked Union employees with MASSIVE amounts of benefits that is bleeding GM dry? GM paid out 1.5 MILLION to it's employees for... ready for this? FREAKIN VIAGRA. Yes, you read right. GM union employees are bleeding GM dry because they have an erectile dysfunction.

That makes me proud to be an American! NOT.

Not to get in an argument put GM is the only american car company who makes cars that can be programmed at a dealer to run on ethenal. And when you look at the road take a look at the cars there. gm makes 30% of those cars Toyota makes the 35% and Ford and nissan and the others make the rest. And the only reason the ****ty plastic companys are going out of buisness is because they are upping their interiors, ever sit in a new cadi? its like a lexus. Sorry for your friends but no one wants cheap a$s plastic cars these days.


ORIGINAL: 2000Si

since when did males like little engines and small things that sound like **** and arent even fast ?

Ever since they don't need a large V8 engine to make up for their lack of length, perhaps?

But seriously, I saw my window sticker, as well as the window sticker for the 02-05 Civic Si's. 60% of the parts used in the car were built/manufactured in the United States. As well as the CAR that was built in Marysville, Ohio. If you've never seen the plant, get on US33 between Fort Wayne, IN and Columbus, OH. Still don't believe me? Honda is trying to find a place near either Lafayette, IN and some place in Van Wert County Ohio to build it's new 1.5 BILLION dollar auto manufacuring plant. Lets not forget Subaru of America who is headquartered in Indiana and is partially owned by GM. Not American enough for you? How about Toyota? With numerous models being built, ONCE AGAIN, in INDIANA.

So I say again, ENOUGH of this bull**** patriotic crap from your mouth. The construction of my car put a paycheck in numerous AMERICAN worker's pockets.

Meanwhile GM is shutting down plants which is causing their suppliers to either go bankrupt or start making parts for Japanese models BUILT IN THE US.

One of the customers of my job; AmCast, which is in Gas City Indiana is declaring bankruptcy thanks to GM going down the tube.

You want American pride? How about the overpaid underworked Union employees with MASSIVE amounts of benefits that is bleeding GM dry? GM paid out 1.5 MILLION to it's employees for... ready for this? FREAKIN VIAGRA. Yes, you read right. GM union employees are bleeding GM dry because they have an erectile dysfunction.

That makes me proud to be an American! NOT.

And the only reason the ****ty plastic companys are going out of buisness is because they are upping their interiors, ever sit in a new cadi? its like a lexus. Sorry for your friends but no one wants cheap a$s plastic cars these days.

Wrong. AmCast makes the rims for various Buick vehicles, Grand Ams, Grand Prixs, Corvettes and (used to make) Camaro rims as well.

Care to try again? :eek:

ORIGINAL: bharsen

unicorns are better dude... they frolick


I like to frolick! Can I be a unicorn?

ORIGINAL: White2000GT


ORIGINAL: bharsen

unicorns are better dude... they frolick


I like to frolick! Can I be a unicorn?

well first things first... to be a unicorn you have to know what they act like... go out and observe some their natural habitat, usually frolicking and missing chartered boat tours and all that

ORIGINAL: bharsen


ORIGINAL: White2000GT


ORIGINAL: bharsen

unicorns are better dude... they frolick


I like to frolick! Can I be a unicorn?

well first things first... to be a unicorn you have to know what they act like... go out and observe some their natural habitat, usually frolicking and missing chartered boat tours and all that


LOL! Ok, I don't want to be a unicorn anymore. I think it was just a midlife crisis. I want to be a cyclops now.

heh I wasn't expecting many to get that last part

ORIGINAL: bharsen

heh I wasn't expecting many to get that last part


Not much gets by me. I was once described as being the smartest peanut in the turd!

that honda was quiet so it sounds like a sleeper. and it was a GD roll race, which = gay

roll race or not a 1.7L top ending a SRT-10 is pretty crazy

the b18B sucks, turb'd...you might hang for 3rd and 4th gear...just like he did. But looks like he spent too much on his tachs and his s2000 steering wheel. I've got a 1.6L that i **** around with but you mess with the v8's you had best invest in tunning and running at least 1.5bar.

rofl this is as close to the funniest thread i will ever read i think... im asian too and VERY HAPPY to be driving a stang =D just dont like people thinking that stangs are only for white guys :P

That was pretty bad for that Camaro.

It still boils down to one thing, the Chevrolet was as far as I can tell, in the condition it was manufactured in.
You can't tell me that guy didn't have alot of money and possibly time tied up in that Honda.
I've owned and driven countless japanese cars and have nothing against them, but I used to have a 2001 Z28
and every time I saw one of those rice burners on "roids, I would try to run them, just because I wanted to see how fast they were.
None of the ones that looked or sounded fast ever raced me, ever. The thing I hate about having a highly modified import is that you sound and in some cases look like you're driving a full blown race car, whereas with a 'Stang or Camaro the car still looks and sounds normal. I guess my point is that all that exhaust sound and the body kit and the huge spoiler just attracts unwanted attention on the street from guys that will want to race you in a straight line, where they will naturally have the advantage.
By the way, I raced a Dodge Dakota R/T in my Camaro and couldn't pull away from him, has that happened to anyone else?

ahhh as long as your driving a mustang that isnt riced the **** out your cool in my book:)

Well said, agreed.

is there alot of drama/arguements on these forums nowadays or is that just me? Its unneccessary* for fellow mustangers to put eachother down, just agree to disagree

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/hybridhatch/webpage/video.html


That's the link to my brothers 205whp Civic waxing every lightning,mustang, firehawk, wrx he raced. Drove it on the street with drag radials, has time slips etc.

I installed a 900$ B16 swap in my 92 Civic Myself and ran 14.2 with about $1000 more I ran 13.5's all day.

I have a 93 LT1 running high 10's right now.

My boy has a 400 whp STREET Civic that beats bikes.

This is directed at 2000GT, I had to join to shut your dumb ass up.

I have beaten COUNTLESS modded Mustangs.....Fool.

Dan

It looks like an LS1 to me.

ORIGINAL: fastdan

http://www.jdmuniverse.com/hybridhatch/webpage/video.html


That's the link to my brothers 205whp Civic waxing every lightning,mustang, firehawk, wrx he raced. Drove it on the street with drag radials, has time slips etc.

I installed a 900$ B16 swap in my 92 Civic Myself and ran 14.2 with about $1000 more I ran 13.5's all day.

I have a 93 LT1 running high 10's right now.

My boy has a 400 whp STREET Civic that beats bikes.

This is directed at 2000GT, I had to join to shut your dumb ass up.

I have beaten COUNTLESS modded Mustangs.....Fool.

Dan

Wow that's a sweet hatch, good post. I just have to disagree with you on the "My boy has a 400 whp STREET Civic that beats bikes." comment. The last car I heard of that was in bike territory was the TT Saleen S7. A 400hp civic could kick some serious ass but a bike??? Not trying to get in an argument here just being realistic :).

*Checks to see if he accidently went to the street/strip section...

The Civic weighs 2080 with a 180 pound driver. The Civic has 409 whp.

The bike weighs about 875 with a similar 180 pound driver. The bike has 145 whp.

Power to weight of the Civic is 5.0 lbs per hp.

Power to weight of the bike is 6.0 lbs per horsepower.

I am friends with both the bike driver and the Civic driver, both were dynoed.

It was on the highway from a 50 roll, the Civic pulled about 5 CAR lengths up to 145.

Dan

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjDOcle6eNw

Here's an in car race Civic Vs Viper.

Dan

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nXWFLm-Ou-E
Here's the aforementioned Civic vs 13 Second car on the street.

lol, all that money spent jus to loose. o well

ORIGINAL: fastdan

The Civic weighs 2080 with a 180 pound driver. The Civic has 409 whp.

The bike weighs about 875 with a similar 180 pound driver. The bike has 145 whp.

Power to weight of the Civic is 5.0 lbs per hp.

Power to weight of the bike is 6.0 lbs per horsepower.

I am friends with both the bike driver and the Civic driver, both were dynoed.

It was on the highway from a 50 roll, the Civic pulled about 5 CAR lengths up to 145.

Dan

I honestly hope you're talking about a fat harley or something...do you want to talk about aerodynamics??? Dynos mean nothing in a case like that and if ANY civic can get 5 car lengths on a bike then the bike or it's driver sucks.

ORIGINAL: 67Sally


ORIGINAL: fastdan

The Civic weighs 2080 with a 180 pound driver. The Civic has 409 whp.

The bike weighs about 875 with a similar 180 pound driver. The bike has 145 whp.

Power to weight of the Civic is 5.0 lbs per hp.

Power to weight of the bike is 6.0 lbs per horsepower.

I am friends with both the bike driver and the Civic driver, both were dynoed.

It was on the highway from a 50 roll, the Civic pulled about 5 CAR lengths up to 145.

Dan




I honestly hope you're talking about a fat harley or something...do you want to talk about aerodynamics??? Dynos mean nothing in a case like that and if ANY civic can get 5 car lengths on a bike then the bike or it's driver sucks.



Look, I'm an american car guy too. I have vast knowledge of everything on wheels. The bike was a Suzuki, Very Fast.

The Aerodynamics on the Civic are actually good.

Why can't the reason the Civic won just be that it was faster and has a better Power to Weight?

If that was a Mustang would it have won?

Weight doesn't mean as much in the top end, its te power and the Civic triples the bikes power.

Dan

Suzuki what? Hayabusa? GSXR 600, 750?

I'm not one of those guys that only likes Mustang. My family has a Honda and I appreciate any fast car. Although the Civics aerodynamics are good, the bikes are 10x better. The Honda would have to be running somethinkg like <2.9sec 0-60 times to compete against a bike and continue that kind of acceleration up to about the 165 mark. 5 car lengths??? Show me a vid or give me some kind of proof.

Because of the aerodynamics I don't think it could beat a Suzuki w/ only 12% more hp. Horsepower isn't everything. Anyways, this argument is useless until proof is shown...neither one of us is going to have our opinions swayed by some stranger on the internet.

I asked my friend today. Its a Honda CBR1100XX. He said his best time was a 10.78@132.

The Civics best time was a 10.3@144.

I'l try to set up a video but they freak out any time I want to take a vid.

Dan

Here's a 6 cylinder Supra DESTROYING a Hayabusa.

http://videos.streetfire.net/toprated/12/e46820e1-6447-4ce6-af80-386a97a3531b.htm

if I transfered the twin turbo to large single and pushed 1000+ HP out of a 6 cyl, I would expect to beat a bike as well :eek:

i think the honda would had took him in the long run!!!!!
hell i smoked a lt1 with seven cylinders!!!!!!

The Honda smoked my 10 Second Lt1.

Smokes me from a stop and a roll.

Dan

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