for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood
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for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood
96-00 Civic - 3-6k
b18b - 3k
DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k
tops? 12k... maybe. Who knows, I would like some background information on the LT1 myself. It could have been modded and in the 13s for all we know.
for a little 4 banger that thing was hanging pretty nice... even if it is an LT1
but the question is how much did it hurt his wallet to get it to that speed...
I say it's a deadly little car for something like I have, but at the end of the day it still sounds like he has the whole 7th division armed with weedwackers under the hood
96-00 Civic - 3-6k
b18b - 3k
DIY turbo / Kit - 1k to 3k
tops? 12k... maybe. Who knows, I would like some background information on the LT1 myself. It could have been modded and in the 13s for all we know.
So you spend 12K on a car, mostly right out of pocket, and you have at the best a mid 14 second car? If the LT1 was running high 13s the civic wouldn't have at the strip (with a 2.2 60')
You could do all that, or just buy a LT1/PI 4.6 and run that stock, with a far more streetable and reilable setup. (stock car vs motor swapped turbo'd car).
Seriously, if your not gonna buy a WRX or evo I don't see what the point is. If you can't launch it on the street, espcially if you make any real power, whats the point? What are you gonna do, go prowl the highways on friday nights???
Are you really that convinced that FWD cars with 200 whp can't launch well? There comes a time when you have to realize that they make some nice street legal DRs for Civics too.
Seriously. I know launching a VERY high hp FWD car will be difficult, but a 2300 lb Civic hatch doesn't need more than 250 WHEEL hp to run 13s.
Seriously, do you think everyone wants to have a car payment or high insurance from having a V8 or newer EVO/WRX?
Last I checked having a 400 hp RWD car on street tires is hard to launch in and of itself. That doesn't mean they don't make sticky tires for that application.
Get your head out of your ass 2000GT, you're a smart guy. You should be able to figure out WHY people choose to buy and build what they want. Besides that fun stuff, all I did was give an ESTIMATE of what it could cost if the person doing the build isn't a Full out tech head DIY'er. Not to mention you have no idea how fast it really is. Was he running low boost? What kind of turbo did he source? You can't sit here and talk down about it because of what you think he's running vs an LT1 that you have no idea of what it's possible mods are.
Assumptions make you look like an ass.
Take CivicSleeper, I believe his setup cost him probably around 6 grand total (if I remember right... including the cost of the car).
Can you do that with your 2000 GT? um... nope. sorry.
Are you really that convinced that FWD cars with 200 whp can't launch well? There comes a time when you have to realize that they make some nice street legal DRs for Civics too.
Seriously. I know launching a VERY high hp FWD car will be difficult, but a 2300 lb Civic hatch doesn't need more than 250 WHEEL hp to run 13s.
Seriously, do you think everyone wants to have a car payment or high insurance from having a V8 or newer EVO/WRX?
Last I checked having a 400 hp RWD car on street tires is hard to launch in and of itself. That doesn't mean they don't make sticky tires for that application.
Get your head out of your ass 2000GT, you're a smart guy. You should be able to figure out WHY people choose to buy and build what they want. Besides that fun stuff, all I did was give an ESTIMATE of what it could cost if the person doing the build isn't a Full out tech head DIY'er. Not to mention you have no idea how fast it really is. Was he running low boost? What kind of turbo did he source? You can't sit here and talk down about it because of what you think he's running vs an LT1 that you have no idea of what it's possible mods are.
Assumptions make you look like an ass.
Take CivicSleeper, I believe his setup cost him probably around 6 grand total (if I remember right... including the cost of the car).
Can you do that with your 2000 GT? um... nope. sorry.
Show me ONE 13 second GT vs 13 second civic video where they race on the street, from a stop, and the GT loses. Hell, lets see a civic video with any appreciable power racing from a stop.
Take the escort guys over there on that forum. The fastest guy that acutally has video evidence to prove it is running like 300 WHP at 19 PSI or thereabouts. He was running 26 PSI at the track and can't break into the 13s. His 60' on street tires was a 2.5!!!
I can say one thing about my GT, in all of the time I have owned it, I have never backed down from a race, and I lost/tied plenty of them. And I have never lost to anything with less than 8 cyl from a stop, unless its AWD. I know it could easily be done, and i know there is probably someone ready to say "come down to xx and I will wax your ass" but that must say something about the 4cyl vs v8 arguement.
And don't talk to me about total money invested, thats ricer bs. I can take a foxbody and make it run pretty dammed fast too for 6 grand. Hell, MM&FF had a bone stock car except the 4,000 dollar hellion kit and a new trans run 10s, and it could hook on the street.
And btw, your gonna run drag radials on your DD FWD car? I don't think so. I would hafve seen your funeral notice the first time it rained and you were on the highway.
Add on top of all of this, who wants to drive around a motor swapped aftermarket boosted 13 second car????? If I had to swap the motor and add boost to run 13s I would drive the car off a cliff and take up bingo.
LT1 vs. Honda
