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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/18/2007 7:04:14 PM   
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everyone get ready im about to change the subject because its going nowhere!!! I was at the street races a few nights ago (i know lots of people dont like street races but whatever) and everyone was waiting to see a race between a N/A drag Honda CRX vs. an 03cobra... Now the CRX was on a trailer to the race and everyone that was with the CRX car was asking for the go or cars to make the race even, and saying that the cobra was supercharged and a V8 I have no clue how that is even valid?  The Cobra had less mods than me and a crappy tune and prob runs like 12.2s' but the crx was a monster!!! All n all the crx was still a honda and driver was still a driver of a honda and the car was "running crappy" and the driver hit the rev limiter just about every shift. So the cobra won by a car and we won our 1700 bucks... For the chevy and ford guys that keep fighting go eat an import...

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/18/2007 9:44:25 PM   
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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/19/2007 5:15:28 AM   
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Not to be a spoiler or anything, but Im pretty sure the 01' cobra in MM & FF's latest shootout puts all your claims to shame with its 12.45 pass, stock save for a set of gears. nowI highly doubt that merely a set of gears will shave a full second off of a "pro drivers" time. And please dont start with your friend Mr. Education, because you know the internet isn't really the only credible source for your "information." Granted I'm only a third year physics major at the university here, so, Mr. Education might only be an aquaintance, but considering I can solve Differential equations that you have never even heard of, that isn't the problem here

Granted, I dont believe that a novice driver will be pulling a 1.68 60', I was just commenting on the potential of the 01' SVT Cobras with a good driver, so I hope that pro driver you have running mid thirteens isn't getting paid that much money. As far as the race, I have no idea who will win, as I know neither drivers skills.

With Regard to the Z06's, you have to remember that there are two different generations of them in existance, and only the new one is making the stout 500hp at the flywheel, the earlier generation falls short of that. The same drivers at MM & FF took the NEW (IE 05 and up) Z06 to a mid twelve second pass, not the previous generation, and as it is now 5 Am I will admit that I am way too lazy to look up ETs for a car that I dont care that much about. 

The LS1 and LT1's are great engines, I remember test driving a bunch of TA's, Firebirds, GTO's, and they all gave me a great kick in the ass,


just to put it out there, The corvettes allways used LS6's and LS7's, not LS1's, just so we get that cleared up.  

Now, im in a different league because I drive a car with a built 283 cid engine supercharged running at least 400rwhp, so I really dont have to worry about any of this, but bench racing without knowing driver skill is just plain stupid, you have no idea what either driver is going to run and its like trying to guess what stupid utterance jessica simpson will come up with next.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/19/2007 10:48:21 AM   
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Damn you guys are stupid. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the new Cobras or Mach 1's, they're awesome. Your cars however, are POS's when it comes to racing. From '93 til '01, Ford never made a car to hang with the stock LT1, much less an LS1. Most of the people on here agree with me about this, however, there are a few exceptions. Maybe one day you'll get to meet my friend Education, he's a pretty nice guy.

So with a pro driver they run 13.9.....so with an average driver they're a 14 second screamer.

Cobras ate them all up.....a new Cobra can barely beat a N/A f-body, much less a FI f-body, give me a break. If we were comparing a Honda to a Cobra you'd say "no replacement for displacement," how come that doesn't hold true here?

God I hope you're smart enough to comprehend what I'm saying.


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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/19/2007 10:53:47 AM   
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STOCK FOR STOCK FROM THE FACTORY....

LT1<COBRA<LS1<03 COBRA< Z06


Haha you forgot one
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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/19/2007 11:35:51 AM   
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AzV6cobra there was a LS1 corvettes made i think 2002 was the last year for them.  Im the only ford guy among many many chevy guys and they all talk crap but none of them can beat me in a straight line... My friend aaron has an 01 vette with a little under 500 hp and his car his hard to daily drive and its still a real close race on the freeway but i still take him... Any more hp and those LS engines will puke up rods.  Except the new LS7 has foged crank and rods but cast pistons??? Ohhhhh yessss the ford gt!!!

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/20/2007 6:14:39 PM   
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nice thread i read it all... i have a buddy i work with that has a 99 mustang gt coupe 5 spd with long tubes mid pipe and cat back and he races his brother in the 01 camero ss and kills him everytime...

just thought id drop my $.02 in

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/21/2007 9:59:55 AM   
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LS1/LT1 who gives a ****..If they were any good they would still be making them.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/29/2007 7:41:07 AM   
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to bad ford dont come back out with the 351 that would be a little closer to comp. with the 350 but then chevy fans would complain that we have a bigger motor then 1 cubic inch bigger. The fact is the 4.6 is almost half as small as a 5.7 281<350 and we give them a fit. i am talking about the guys that can drive, i have yet to be beat by a ls1 at the track or the street, which my 99 was runnuing high 12s before the juice, so a lot depends on the driver, and most races are done on the street where these people that dont know how to laucnh these ohc engines get spanked, because they dont have the torwque down low like any ls1. If none of that is true, it would not surprise me, my buddy that is a die hard chevy driver dont like to hear it even after i spank his ss camaro at the track.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/31/2007 1:31:53 AM   
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i had a LS1 and i put gears and a whole bunch a **** in it.....it was fast in the long run but my buddys 01 cobra beat the **** out of me on the street....the street wasnt long enough for me to catch him but i would have got him in the end.........long story short. from an uneducated mother f'er...cobras rule the street baby.....

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/31/2007 10:36:07 AM   
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wow... what a useless thread..

not only did it orginate in 2005 , its been revived on two seperate occasions..

all this thread is doing, is breeding stupidity on all sides, bad facts, and arguments


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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 7/31/2007 11:30:05 AM   
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^ and thats why its awesome!

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/2/2007 9:37:35 PM   
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wow... what a useless thread..

not only did it orginate in 2005 , its been revived on two seperate occasions..

all this thread is doing, is breeding stupidity on all sides, bad facts, and arguments



Agreed.

But it sure is entertaining.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/3/2007 12:57:38 PM   
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Yes, very entertaining.

Just for the record: I drive my '01 Cobra at the track, and I've been up against the 97'. I beat him, (stock at that time) but it was close. Times were somewhere in the high 13's. But mine is a 'vert, extra weight, and even though I was powershifting, it was a very tight run.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/3/2007 10:37:46 PM   
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Wow This is pretty funny. Actually, the cobra has become competition for the Z06!!! NOT the camaros, trans ams and such... The terminators left those cars in the dirt along time ago and I've witnessed quite a few times, the older cobras taking supersports trans ams etc. I'm not saying they're not cool cars, I like them but they aren't the almighty power houses. Neither are cobras but I do know you can get into a lightly modded ford for half the price of a z06 and pull away from it. It's all preference and it's not worth arguing over. We ACTUALLY should all unite against all of the rice out there. Not fighting with eachother that's American vs. American think about it, that's lame. My buddy had a newer SS that I absolutely loved, even tho my cobra is faster (not by much lol) I still like both and others. American Muscle is the way. EFF 4 BANGERS!!! It should be Ford/GM/Mopar etc. against all rice. Not bitching back and forth between good ol' muscle car owners. I say we organize a massive American Sports/muscle car cruise... How sweet would that be??? 
Anyways, give it a rest fellas, we should all be friends because we don't own hondas and nissans

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/20/2007 12:32:42 AM   
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Sorry for being a troll, but i got a 2001 cobra and i have never lost to any trans am or camaro with my current set up.  And i dont think the mods that i have right now have given me THAT much more horsepower than a stock 2001 cobra.  maybe i am just a great driver, but i smash on LS1's with my lightly modded svt.

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/20/2007 12:35:12 AM   
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Dub
thats a fair statement and i would say your mostly correct. however i've seen some very fast '96 cobras which ran upper 13s stock. depends on driver.
and for the race on a 99-01 cobra, good kill. but i've race more than one GT, pulled them by multiple cars.
my '01 cobra ran a 13.8@101 with a 2.2 60 and that was the second time i ever launched my car ..when i got a better 60 i spat out the IRS. 14s maybe if they cant drive.
Go race an '01 cobra with a good driver and tell me how you do. If you get him then you have a very strong GT to be proud of.


2v = LT1
4v > LT1

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/20/2007 12:44:46 AM   
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Dub
thats a fair statement and i would say your mostly correct. however i've seen some very fast '96 cobras which ran upper 13s stock. depends on driver.
and for the race on a 99-01 cobra, good kill. but i've race more than one GT, pulled them by multiple cars.
my '01 cobra ran a 13.8@101 with a 2.2 60 and that was the second time i ever launched my car ..when i got a better 60 i spat out the IRS. 14s maybe if they cant drive.
Go race an '01 cobra with a good driver and tell me how you do. If you get him then you have a very strong GT to be proud of.


2v = LT1
4v > LT1


Stock Supercharged 4v > LS6 and LS2

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RE: 2001 svt vs. 97 Trans Am lt1 ?? - 8/20/2007 1:27:24 AM   
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Um... LS.. LSss.. LS What

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