Hello all

Hope you don't mind me starting this new thread, I have recently installed a Pioneer AVIC-Z1 and found everything pretty daunting for my first time installation of a stereo in ANY car so I figured I might be able to help people in the same position I was in, I have had quite a few PM's the last week so maybe they can be asked here!

I have attached some images of my completed install, I also installed with the Z1 a Sirius SIR-PNR2 , Ipod CD-IB100II, CD-R5 Remote Control, ND-BC1 REAR VIEW CAMERA and also a CD-SR11 Steering Wheel Remote (very handy).

If I can be of any help please feel free to ask.

Thank you

Stuart

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Dudeeeeeeee, I am soooo jealous of that. The z1 is awesome. I would love to get my hands on one. How is the voice recognition, is it great? How much do you like the bluetooth feature?

Thank you, yes I am really happy with it after reading a couple of mixed reviews, I have to admit I have not got to grips with the voice recognition as yet as I have only really finished the last of the install. I also added a DVD whilst in motion board recently although I don't think I will use it much but its nice to have the option.

Bluetooth won't get much use by me just yet as I don't have a Bluetooth phone....crappy Nextel! Also you need a additional add-on Bluetooth module for the Z1 :(


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Have you done the override feature, so you can watch dvds while moving?

As far as the override I have heard you have 2 choices. Buy a $25 module that splices into the illumination wire or just flip your light on and back off again real quick when you start the car. Personally I won't use it enough going down the road to justify taking it apart and putting in the $25 piece. I'll just go with the light flip thing. I'm still trying to figure out how it's so freakin easy to override this thing. Hell you could do it by accident if you didn't know!

Getting mine installed on Wednesday. They just ordered all the parts. $2399 installed. For now I'm just going with the iPod adapter. Haven't really had much of an interest in satellite and since I can't have a camera phone where I work, I don't have a phone with bluetooth. Wish they would make a non-camera phone with bluetooth, i'd buy it in a heartbeat. The rear view camera will come in sometime in the future when I get into the body work with the spoiler/trunk lid.

Did you install it yourself?

Nope I'm having it installed professionally. While I have no doubt that I can do it, I a) haven't installed a car stereo myself before and starting with a system like this might not be the idealk startign situation and b) I want to have it installed for my week vacation I'm taking memorial day week and would not have the time to do it between now and then.

I installed the relays and harness in the car for dvd whilst in motion and it didnt work, it worked for about 1 mile but then due to the vibration whilst in motion the radio detected it so that was a waste of $25, the flashing the headlight option is the best to go for, on the avic411.com forum there is someone selling a little board that you add in that does this for you without actually having to flash your headlights as at night that can be a little distracting. Works well!

That little board they are selling it was i was talking about for $25, I don't know what you had used.

For the iPod connector, I've been thinking about seeing if they can run the cable up to the center console and come through at that little access plate to the parking brake. It woul dbe alot easier to get to my ipod through there as opposed to my glove compartment. What do you guys think?

I'm sorry I thought you meant the other board that uses relays to fool the Z1 into thinking the handbrake is on. Yes the little $25 board is great, worth the money for sure!

kcary, not sure how good that would look with a white cable hanging about all the time.

The glove box just seemed an ideal place to hide it all away as you can control the ipod via the Z1 screen and I didn't really want it on show, plus in Florida its very hot to be on display all the time, in my case it was an ideal position but maybe not for everyone?

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Outatime:

Love your Stang.:D

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I also have the Z1. It was professional installed. I had them install the override to allow you to play DVDs while driving. It's a little switch I press 3 times on boot up. My kids love it. Also did the truck with Dynamat. Really helps the Shaker 1000 subs sound cleaner.

Hey outatime, thats awesome. Ur car looks really good, exterior and interior. I have a couple of questions though, is your rear camera a pioneer product as well? How clear is the camera during the day and how is it at night? would any other brand camera work with the unit, or no. Also what is that eject button, looks kinda cool. thanx

I love your setup. You listed my complete buy list in the near future. What does the Rear camera look like at night? The steering wheel remote can you post a picture of it mounted please? Also I assume it is wireless so does it work well? One last question, did you replace the stock speakers and amp?
Thanks
Greg

Stuart,

Thanks for starting this thread, firstly... Secondly, and I just posted this question in the other avic forum so excuse me if someone has already answered it... I'm prepping myself for the (attempted) install of the z1, and had a few quick questions. First, where is the car speed signal input located on the mustang? It looks from the install like you need to connect that, but that the position varies by car maker. Second, I like the look of the install, that kit that you have to fill the gap around the unit looks clean- is that the f-150 one from crutchfield? Third, where did you decide to position your gps antenna? I have a friend with a 350Z, who put his inside the trunk, attached to the trunk lid, and he says it works fine. I've read other people say that you should have it mounted on the dash for maximum coverage- any thoughts? Fourth, did you use the crutchfield wiring harness when installing? If so, what was the difficulty level, and if not, what product did you use?

Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions, but I'm in an info gathering mode here until that headlight-flash over ride shows up (don't want to do an install and then rip it all apart again)...

Jake

Hi , sorry for the delay, thank you both for the nice words about my stang :) Yes the Reverse Camera is Pioneer as well, I got it from Ebay new, do a search you should find some although I did see a guy with a camera in the trunk lock which looks cool but I didn't have that size camera.

Camera is really clear at day but its got a wide angle lens on it so you got a fisheye type view outside, will get some photos for you of the install and view later on. Night time I have not tested it yet as I only really fitted it correctly yesterday as it was sitting on my rear shelf before and I have tinted windows so it wasn't very good...its a lot better now :)

Yes you can buy other cameras but they don't just plug in, you have to do some rewiring of the camera cables, if your not very experienced with cameras or wiring then its really best just to get the pioneer one.

LOL my Eject button is for bad passengers, no seriously I bought it a while ago for show, it hides up that crappy 12v cover in the stang, http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_2005-present.shtml

Thank you

Stuart


ORIGINAL: Stang Skeleton

Hey outatime, thats awesome. Ur car looks really good, exterior and interior. I have a couple of questions though, is your rear camera a pioneer product as well? How clear is the camera during the day and how is it at night? would any other brand camera work with the unit, or no. Also what is that eject button, looks kinda cool. thanx

Hello, have attached some images of the rear view camera in action and also steering wheel remote, I love the remote its really handy because it can be a pain to turn vol up and down when driving and this I just move my thumb, its meant to be installed on the right but I have mine of the left (find it easier to control and not in my way as much). Yep its wireless IR and works great no problems with it at all so far!

No I used stock speakers and amp and its perfect, unless you want it much louder I really don't see the need, I think the stock speakers/amp is more than enough...although I did take out the Shaker 500 so it depends what you had in before. I prefer functions over loudness of sound.

Thanks

ORIGINAL: gkosin

I love your setup. You listed my complete buy list in the near future. What does the Rear camera look like at night? The steering wheel remote can you post a picture of it mounted please? Also I assume it is wireless so does it work well? One last question, did you replace the stock speakers and amp?
Thanks
Greg



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Hi Jake

No problem glad I could help others with there installs :) ok VSS you need is in the engine area, this was a pain to do and I fed the pink wire all over the place, I will attach a photo of my install, it doesn't look pretty I should have used black wire and black cable ties but I had nether to hand and was running low on patience but I can always replace them later on down the line.

This website has the info to the VSS wire in detail http://www.wieduwilt.us/mustang/avic-d1.htm
Its basically a wire coming out of a plug in the engine that's got a load more wires on it, I followed the wire a few inches and then crimped off it (it was the only way as there isn't much room to move in there) and ran that back to the harness via a hole in the drivers side and then cable tied it out of the way.

Yes I bought the F150 Crutchfield dash kit which fits perfectly, the GPS is on my rear shelf, see images, I decided it was the best place as I didn't want to run it to the roof or trunk, it works fine for me and signal is great...although Sirius isn't work there very well at all so I moved that to the front of the car, see images.

The CF harness was fine, its color coded so I just took the new Pioneer harness and the new CF and wired it up inside the house, its pretty easy but go through the guides you have with both just to make sure. Also add the 5v regulator inside too to save time.

I have had my centre panel and Z1 in and out half a dozen times now whilst finding out new things or things I should have done so your doing the best thing waiting for your flashing unit. Make sure you have all the correct tools for the job and take it slow, I am really proud of my achievements installing the Z1 and sure you will be happier installing it yourself knowing everything's done right!

Thanks

Stuart



ORIGINAL: jakeoooh

Stuart,

Thanks for starting this thread, firstly... Secondly, and I just posted this question in the other avic forum so excuse me if someone has already answered it... I'm prepping myself for the (attempted) install of the z1, and had a few quick questions. First, where is the car speed signal input located on the mustang? It looks from the install like you need to connect that, but that the position varies by car maker. Second, I like the look of the install, that kit that you have to fill the gap around the unit looks clean- is that the f-150 one from crutchfield? Third, where did you decide to position your gps antenna? I have a friend with a 350Z, who put his inside the trunk, attached to the trunk lid, and he says it works fine. I've read other people say that you should have it mounted on the dash for maximum coverage- any thoughts? Fourth, did you use the crutchfield wiring harness when installing? If so, what was the difficulty level, and if not, what product did you use?

Thanks in advance, sorry for all the questions, but I'm in an info gathering mode here until that headlight-flash over ride shows up (don't want to do an install and then rip it all apart again)...

Jake



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My main stumbling blocks whilst adding this unit was the Sirius unit not working and the illumination wire. I had a bad Sirius box unfortunately which I got off eBay for $20 so I dumped it in the trash and went and bought a new one and that's great although it did concern me for a bit. The illumination wire was a pain and I don't know if you would know about this unless I told you as I read everything everywhere and nothing was said about this.

On your Z1 you need to connect a Illumination wire up which goes +12v when its on and 0v when its off...something like that...anyway when its on your screen darkens at night and when its off its light for driving about in the day time. I wired up the cable from the dimmer from the car harness to the new Z1 harness because it was the same color and the only wire left on the harness to wire up but that didn't work for illumination I had to make an extra wire from the headlight switch to the Illumination wire on the Z1 harness and that then worked perfectly.

On the images below is the headlight switch popped out and I added the flash headlight circuit to it and also crimped off for the illumination cable that went to the Z1.

Hope that helps.

Stuart

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Where do you have the rear view camera mounted at? I was thinking about adding that to mine at some point, but the system alone costs enough for me for now. I was wanting to get it in a concealed place anyways such as hidden where the keyhole is now, but like you said that would require a different camera and a bit of work.

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Hello Kcary

Mine is mounted on area of the licence plate, I decided to go with this area because of there is a small hide which happens to be the same size diameter of the camera cable so I cut off the end of the cable, fed the cable though, mounted the camera and resoldered the end of the cable back on with the connector (only a few wires so it wasn't hard). I will see how it goes, would have liked to use the lock hole but the camera wouldn't fit and I wasn't sure I wanted to lose the lock to be honest with you

Thank you

Stuart

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Where do you have the rear view camera mounted at? I was thinking about adding that to mine at some point, but the system alone costs enough for me for now. I was wanting to get it in a concealed place anyways such as hidden where the keyhole is now, but like you said that would require a different camera and a bit of work.



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Great work! About that rear-view camera... is there away to get the image left/right correct, or is it reversed?

Thanks for your information. It is helping me make better decisions on the installation in the near future.
Greg

Hi, not 100% sure but its just reversed from what I can make out. Don't think it can be changed.

Thanks for all the info so far, I think that all my equip. should be here by this weekend and I'll be able to start this install... The link to that other image gallery was a great help, I see where the speed sensor is now- so according to the instructions, you take their little connector and connect it to that wire, running the other end back into the car? I just want to make sure that I understand that correctly- don't want to start destroying wires that don't need to be destroyed... Also, what is the process for pulling out the factory stereo on the mustang? Are there a set of screws you have to get to, or does the head unit pop out?

Thanks for all the info so far, I actually received my wiring harness, etc. today from crutchfield, and it included instructions on ripping apart the dash- so no worries there... Does anybody have a picture of at which point they attached the voltage regulator? I'm going to have someone at my office solder it on for me, and it would be nice if I could show them what it's supposed to look like.

Thanks!

Hi Jake

You got it, just crimp it and run to your Z1.

The following pdf file should help you remove the radio

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Also here are some more pdf's that might help you:

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/64040/inttrim.pdf

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/64040/ceterpanel.pdf

http://www.myfilehut.com/userfiles/64040/console.pdf

Thanks

Stuart

ORIGINAL: jakeoooh

Thanks for all the info so far, I think that all my equip. should be here by this weekend and I'll be able to start this install... The link to that other image gallery was a great help, I see where the speed sensor is now- so according to the instructions, you take their little connector and connect it to that wire, running the other end back into the car? I just want to make sure that I understand that correctly- don't want to start destroying wires that don't need to be destroyed... Also, what is the process for pulling out the factory stereo on the mustang? Are there a set of screws you have to get to, or does the head unit pop out?

Looks great, thanks a lot for the info!

Jake

Wow, I totally forgot to even think about it. Does the iPod connector charge the iPod as well when it's plugged in? If not then I need to make sure I bring it back to my computer more often than I currently do.

Jakeooh - Will get more info on the 5v reg to you later on.

Kcary - Yes when its plugged in its charging, when you turn the engine off the ipod shuts down after a min or so.

Outatime-

Thanks, it would be appreciated... I picked up the little regulator today, and I've got my harness kit, but I'm not 100% sure exactly what I'm supposed to do from here- There's an input, and output, and a ground on the regulator, but to what ends? I think I've got a good handle on the other nuances of install at this point, but the regulator continues to confuse me...

Jake

OK just made a little diagram for you, just get some automobile wire from Walmart or something and get it wired up inside and cover it will electric tape so the wires can't pull off the leg....I did this with the ground wire!

Does that help?

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The Input is the Blue/White amp wire going from the 2nd connector from the harness from car, you might notice there is 2 of them, I personally couldn't find out if the 2nd wire worked so I crimped them both together, still not sure if I did the right thing but its all good so far so just connect the too amp In wires together.

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ahhhhh, yes, that helps a lot- The thing that was really confusing me was the presence of that second wire on the harness- It seemed counter intuitive that I would run a regulator in from one cable, and out to the other which is why I was getting so bogged down... So you crimped the two wires from the harness together, ran that to the input portion of the regulator, grounded a piece of stereo wire from that second connection to something behind the dash, and then ran the output portion to the amp wire on the Z1... That seems reasonable...

Thanks again for your help.

Jake

Well they just finished the install on my car. I will get it on Sunday when I get down to Richmond. They were able to run the cable to the center console through that little cover I was talking about so I will take pictures ocne I get it and post em here. I think it will help a lot having it run there for the iPod rather than in the glove box, just makes it easier to get to.

One more question- where exactly does that output from the regulator go? I'm looking at the diagrams from pioneers website, and i don't see anything there about an amp wire harness... I see a set of RCA cables that it says are used with an external sub, but I was under the impression that the RCA output from the wire harness would plug into there... If I'm understanding that correctly, and the rca output from the wiring harness plugs into the sub out, where does the regulator out go? The only thing i can guess is to the blue/white cable that leads to the system control terminal... Is my assumption correct, or am I (again) missing something here?

jake

Kcary, good job, look forward to seeing the pics, still not 100% sure where you mean but if its better than mine then I might swap mine out too.

Jake, yes its the blue/white from the Z1 ...same color that goes to the car harness. The rca cables have there own connections on the back of the Z1 so you just plug those ones in.

So the regulator would go inbetween the connection of the blue/white cable that connects from the shaker to the z1 and with the connection to ground on the regulator.


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Thanks a lot for the help, the install went off with almost no problems- I wasn't able to properly put that regulator in as the subs still pop, but other than that it was a quick install thanks to all the help from this forum... I bought another regulator, and I guess I'll attach it at the point of origin rather than try to pull apart all my wiring to see where I went wrong at that point... All told, it only look me about 2 hours to install, and the headlight bypass that I bought from avic411 works perfectly...

Thanks!

jake

Well done Jake glad to hear it all went well, definitly needs that regulator installed as that pop made me jump each time the stereo booted. Yeah its a real pain getting it all out again I did it about 3 times but I wouldn't have known what I do now unless I did..the bad siruis unit didnt help matters either. Post some pics when you get a chance!

Thanks

ORIGINAL: jakeoooh

ahhhhh, yes, that helps a lot- The thing that was really confusing me was the presence of that second wire on the harness- It seemed counter intuitive that I would run a regulator in from one cable, and out to the other which is why I was getting so bogged down... So you crimped the two wires from the harness together, ran that to the input portion of the regulator, grounded a piece of stereo wire from that second connection to something behind the dash, and then ran the output portion to the amp wire on the Z1... That seems reasonable...

Thanks again for your help.

Jake

You could have done what I did, use a 4k7 resistor to join the 2 cables together...

I SURE WISH I'D SEEN THIS THREAD EARLIER.. NOW I'VE GOTTA GET THAT SPEED SENSE WIRE THRU AND INSTALLED (I just capped it off)

BUT, the Z1 is an incredible stereo

I did hear about using the resistor too but already had the 5v reg which seems to be doing the job, I did hear of people grounding the parking brake and such but I wanted my Z1 fully operational which it is now and I love it. Used sat nav for the first time the other day and it was spot on....wonder what pioneer will roll out next!

Very Helpful post!! Just to be clear...cut the 2 blue/white wires from the harness to the sub. Crimp or solder in the voltage regulator based on the input/output pic you posted, and solder in a wire for ground?? Is that basically it?? I had an AV shop install my Avic-Z1 on Wed....love it, but I have the initial popping thing going on. I am bringing it back to them today....already bought the voltage regulator, just want to be 100% what to tell them.

Thanks!

Hello

Yes the 2 sub In wires from the harness to the In on the Voltage reg, ground to the center pin on the reg, wire to the Z1 Amp In from the last pin on the reg. Yep you got it!


ORIGINAL: 05vert

Very Helpful post!! Just to be clear...cut the 2 blue/white wires from the harness to the sub. Crimp or solder in the voltage regulator based on the input/output pic you posted, and solder in a wire for ground?? Is that basically it?? I had an AV shop install my Avic-Z1 on Wed....love it, but I have the initial popping thing going on. I am bringing it back to them today....already bought the voltage regulator, just want to be 100% what to tell them.

Thanks!

Also for those of you not sure where to buy the voltage regulator, this is the radio shack link http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062599&cp

Thanks for the help!!!

Well I got the car back with it installed just in time for my vacation I've been on for the past week. Can't post pics yet as my girlfriend somehow lost my camera! However, I can't get the light flip thing to allow the override. Is there some trick to it? I just start the car, and flip the lights on and off; however, when I take off my parking brake, it's not overriden and a lot of things are locked out. I'm wondering if maybe something wasn't hooked up right by the installer. Thanks for any info.

And I will get pics of the center console iPod adapter install as soon as I get access to a camera.

Just wanted to mention this for anyone looking to purchase or currently own the AVIC-Z1 with XM. Sears currently has the GEXP10XMT XM NavTraffic Tuner for $149.99. Pretty good price compared to Circuit City at 199 and Best Buy 299 (atleast last time I checked). Usually BBY or CC will pricematch competitors like Sears if you print the online ad. Sears only has it available for shipping so what you can do is go to an electronics store that price matches and pick it up :) CC gave me 10% of the difference too, so, I got a pretty good deal on it.

ORIGINAL: kcary

However, I can't get the light flip thing to allow the override. Is there some trick to it? I just start the car, and flip the lights on and off; however, when I take off my parking brake, it's not overriden and a lot of things are locked out. I'm wondering if maybe something wasn't hooked up right by the installer. Thanks for any info.



Have you been here: http://avic411.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=20&sid=9e3993e4b2ce2f68b072654d04c8733b

From my reading, and your description, it sounds like you are doing it wrong. I think the sequence is, 1) get in the car, 2) release parking brake, 3) turn on car, (power, not engine), 4) turn the lights on and off during the power-up phase where the Pioneer logo is displayed. From what I gather, it is the AVIC sensing the lights turning OFF that overrides the lockouts. If you pull the parking brake, it will negate the override and you will have to do it again.

Someone who has this thing installed lemme know if I have it right...

Hi Kcary

You will need to make sure that you have the hand brake OFF to begin with, it won't work with it on otherwise when you have done the flashes and put the brake off it resets what you have just done!

Have you got the illumination wire correctly connected so when your driving at night and switch your head lights on the unit slightly dims and the map background turns from light to dark? If not then this is another problem as the hack won't work without it, not hard to fix if you need to do it.

Thanks

Stuart

ORIGINAL: kcary

Well I got the car back with it installed just in time for my vacation I've been on for the past week. Can't post pics yet as my girlfriend somehow lost my camera! However, I can't get the light flip thing to allow the override. Is there some trick to it? I just start the car, and flip the lights on and off; however, when I take off my parking brake, it's not overriden and a lot of things are locked out. I'm wondering if maybe something wasn't hooked up right by the installer. Thanks for any info.

And I will get pics of the center console iPod adapter install as soon as I get access to a camera.

Hi Herknav, yes thats 100% correct, I usually flicker the lights a couple of times during boot up but don't think it matters to much! I also installed the board that the guy is selling on the avic forums and it works great :)

Thanks

Ah ok, missed the part where brake has to be off to start with. Guess that will do it! Reading comprehension 101! The illumination wire is hooked up properly, at least, the light functionality with the map and whatnot is working as it should.

I just ordered the Z1 and the F-150 bracket, they should be here by Friday. Since I'm thousands of miles from home and doing my own install, any special tools required?

Also, I always drive with my lights on out of habit, is there a way to turn off night mode, or am I going to need to put a switch on the illumination lead? How long do you think the install will take with no extras?

Thanks

Think your going to have to put a toggle switch on that if you always drive with your lights on, don't think there is any other way of doing it!

No special tools needed, just a long socket to remove center panel (no 10 did it for me) and a screw driver.

First off, kudos to everyone who has contributed to this very helpful thread, especially Outatime. [sm=smiley32.gif]

I'm in the process of installing an Avic Z1 on my baby. Everything seemed to be going smoothly, but I'm having some issues finding some of the wires. Real quickly:

1) Routing past the engine up to the PCM for the VSS seems to be a real pain. I had the Shaker 500 and it has speed-sensitive volume, so there must be a VSS line by the head unit, right? On the wiring harness I have from Crutchfield, there is a small connector for the subwoofer and a large connector for power and the other speakers. On the Shaker 500 headunit, however, there is also a medium-sized connector with two wires (in particular, a white/orange wire). I'm wondering if this is in fact the speed signal? Does anyone know? If not, is my reasoning that there should be a VSS line by the headunit incorrect?

2) Outatime, I'm having a bit of trouble telling from your pic which line I need to connect from the light switch for the illumination. Can you tell me which color you spliced into for this?

3) Where is the reverse light wire? I'm hoping to avoid running that purple wire all the way to the trunk.

Thanks in advance for all of your help. This thread is great.

I guess no one saw this. For others who are wondering, I figured it out by myself.

1) There is a speed signal into the Shaker unit (hence the speed-sensitive volume). It is pin 14 on the medium-sized connector (white/orange wire). Not sure if it functions as well as the VSS up front, but I am reading the speed (though the GPS probably does that as well).

2) The headlight dimmer wire which you need to splice into is pin 2 on the headlight switch. It is a yellow/light blue wire. I tied that right into the orange/white wire on the Avic and it worked fine.

Not sure if there's a closer reverse light than the trunk, but I didn't hook that up and the unit seems to work great.

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I'm a little confused on the factory options for the '06, are there 3?

1) A plain factory radio
2) Shaker 500
3) Shaker 1000

Is the wiring significantly different? I had what I believe to be a bare bones factory system with the standard ford wiring harness, plus an additional smaller plug in the radio. the radio did have speed sensitive volume control. Should I there fire be able to splice into pin 14, the white/orange one for VSS?

Did you check in hardware to see if it has a VSS reading?

I got mine installed tonight, I like it already. I didn't connect the Vss yet or the parking brake or reverse Cam. The only thing I plan to install still is the vss but so far accuracy doesn't seem to bean issue at all, even the parking lot surrounding my apartment complex is dead on.

Hello

Sorry was away at the beach for a few days and missed the post, if the vss wire you found is acurate when driving then thats a good tip as its a real pain in the ass to get that vss wire from the Z1 to the front of the engine for that square connector, maybe you can report more on that when you have fully tested it.

Reverse wire I don't know if its much use for everyday use or if it does something that I don't know about but the only reason I installed mine is for the reverse camera other than that I can't really see the point installing it, I heard there is a wire at the front of the car near the fuse box but in the end I just pulled the trucking out and fed the wires to the rear of the car and spliced to the reverse light, I was also running my GPS antenna back there too.

Seems like you got everything else spot on, well done.

I imagine they would use the same harness for all three radios so they can just pop them in when someone orders.

I am still not sure about this Shaker vss till its tested fully.

Stuart

ORIGINAL: jeepin95

I'm a little confused on the factory options for the '06, are there 3?

1) A plain factory radio
2) Shaker 500
3) Shaker 1000

Is the wiring significantly different? I had what I believe to be a bare bones factory system with the standard ford wiring harness, plus an additional smaller plug in the radio. the radio did have speed sensitive volume control. Should I there fire be able to splice into pin 14, the white/orange one for VSS?

Did you check in hardware to see if it has a VSS reading?

I got mine installed tonight, I like it already. I didn't connect the Vss yet or the parking brake or reverse Cam. The only thing I plan to install still is the vss but so far accuracy doesn't seem to bean issue at all, even the parking lot surrounding my apartment complex is dead on.

Something else I would like to add to this thread about the Sat Nav and the hand brake. When the hand brake is off (driving) you can't edit or add a address or location to the Navigation , it just locks you out so you have to pull over and put the hand brake on to change the settings.

I am going to put a toggle switch on the hand brake wire so I can fiddle whilst moving, not so much for me but if I ask my GF to make a change she can do it.

Thanks.

edited this post as I figured out how to do it

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Installed my Z1 today. Pretty straight forward, especially with the help in this thread.

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Alrighty,
Good thread so far, thanks for all the help. Especially Kcary!
Now, I have the Z1, the headlight flasher circuit and the regulator all ready to go in on Thurs or Fri Prob. I am doing the install myself so am looking for just a few more tips. Anyone install the Z1 VSS using the orange/white wire in the dash? To those that did, have you checked in the hardware menu of the Z1 to make sure it is reading correct? Just seems like it should work and it's a heck of a lot easier than running to the engine bay. Just want to make sure it works properly before hacking into a wire.
Also, how much room is left behind the Z1 once installed? I am thinking I want to recess it more than it is with the F150 dash kit, as from the pics above, it appears to be sticking out a bit far for my tastes.

Thanks for the help all!

Here is a document that I got from another thread awhile back. It is supposed to be the shaker 500 diagram. The speed sensor wire is on connector J1 pin 14 and the illumination wires are also on the same connector pin 3 + and 4 -. I haven't purchased my Z1 yet but its coming. Hope this helps someone out. I had to convert the doc from a PDG to a jpg so if you have problems reading PM me and I can email it to you as a pdf. I don't know how to post a pdf.
Greg

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I want to order the Pioneer AVH Headunit and the F150 Dash Kit, this is going to be my first install/experience with audio components. What else will I need for this unit to work, like wiring etc...

Will the install be fairly easy and how do you remove the stock shaker 500?

Thanks guys!
-Jeff

ORIGINAL: Outatime

Something else I would like to add to this thread about the Sat Nav and the hand brake. When the hand brake is off (driving) you can't edit or add a address or location to the Navigation , it just locks you out so you have to pull over and put the hand brake on to change the settings.

I am going to put a toggle switch on the hand brake wire so I can fiddle whilst moving, not so much for me but if I ask my GF to make a change she can do it.

Thanks.


The idea of putting a toggle switch on the hand brake wire will not work. In addition to detecting if the hand brake is in use, the unit keeps track of your speed (yes, even if your VSS wire isn't hooked up). If you're moving faster than 3 mph, the unit automatically locks out the controls. This is why people who have intentionally grounded the hand brake wire still can't access the menus or play dvds in motion.

At this point, the only way to override this feature is the headlight flashing technique. If you look around, a lot of people are doing it different ways. Some people manually flash the lights, some purchase a circuit to do the job for them. What's been found with this is that timing is everything.

If you're not familiar with this, I would suggest you visit www.avic411.com. When doing this manually, you'll have to tie the ILL wire on the stereo directly into your headlight switch (I've heard some mixed things about using the ILL wire in attached to the wiring harness). With the automatic circuit, it can be tied into a number of things (ILL wire, Dimmer wire, 12V constant)

The headlight flashing works just fine and from what I've heard from people, the circuit the guy at avic411 is selling works perfectly too. You just have to time you flashing properly when you start up and make sure the hand brake is off when you do. For people such as myself who would take advantage of the override so infrequently, this seems to be the best option.

I havn't found a need for the headlight flashy thing yet, but then I have yet to take any really long trips. I should probably test it out to make sure I put the wires in the right place...

White/orange Speed wire does NOT work for VSS!!!!

I just finished my install and had to run the wire to the engine bay after all. The White w/ Orange wire in the medium Radio connector does NOT work properly although it does give the Z1 a signal of sorts. Just not the correct one. It was reading incorrect speeds and not reading distance on the 3D calibration screen. Once I hooked the VSS to the blue w/ yellow at the PCM, everything functioned properly.

Thanks for the help all! Made this a smoooooth install!

Had my Z1 installed today. Was told by the installer that he's searched and searched for how to hook up the VSS on mustangs. He's done this install in about a dozen cars and says he's given up trying to get the speed sense working (sounds like the PCM wire may be the key?)

Got the Z1 with iPod cable just under $2,400 including tax and installation. Just so people are aware circuit city is running a sale for $2,099 online including installation. Use this to get a good bargain at your installer of choice ;)

Installer used the clip for the mic and clipped it to my overhead lights. The GPS antenna he preferred to place near the front windshield on the passenger side. I asked about the rear deck and he said dark tints can interfere with the signal.

The improved sound is well worth it.

i'd like to see a pic of the mic, preferrably clipped on or mounted to see what it looks like. anyone have pics??

Here ya go



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that doesn't look bad at all, i was worried it would stick out too much. i'm thinking about buying the avic-z soon so thanks for the pics man.

You are welcome.

The mic isn't really that noticeable in that spot.

At first I really noticed the gps antenna since I was hoping they could mount it on the rear deck. I have a big gnarly white fast track transmitter I need to mount in the same general area soon anyway for toll road access. I'm sure once I have that mounted the gps antenna will blend into my subconscious mind and fade away.

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for all the info on this thread. I have an 05 Mustang and just ordered the AVIC-Z1. I'm planning on installing it myself. I saw alot of discussion about how to bypass the lockout (light switching and AVIC forum board installation), but I also noticed in the link you gave us for showing the VSS hookup that there is also an alternate wiring description for the lockout bypass. Does this work? Are there any reasons why not to do this? It seems to be the simplest.

Thanks,

Dave

For those of you about to install your Z1's. Just to reiterate from a previous post. I just installed my Z1 in my 06 GT. The ILL wire on the factory wiring harness will not work with the Z1. I had to route the wire to the headlight switch, pin 2. Thanks whoever posted this info in a previous post/thread, it saved me another headace. I would have never figured out why it wasn't working otherwise.

I have a 2003 gt mustang with mach and i wanted to install a avic z1 in my mustang and i was wondering if somebody has like a guide to install and telling me what i need. do i really need a after market amplifier? cause when i go to crutchfield to order it say i need it

ORIGINAL: peste19

I have a 2003 gt mustang with mach and i wanted to install a avic z1 in my mustang and i was wondering if somebody has like a guide to install and telling me what i need. do i really need a after market amplifier? cause when i go to crutchfield to order it say i need it


It's gonna be hard for most folks here to answer that, I sugest asking the question in the 03 GT forum. I know I didn't need one, but my stereo is completely different than yours...

ok...need a shaker 500 guru hear to help me out...I have the RCA's from the ford harness plugged into the non fadding RCA's on the AVIC...I have the 12v-5V step down in place...and still nothing out the lower speakers on my doors...HELP!! I MISS MY BASS!!!!!

ORIGINAL: kf4ape

ok...need a shaker 500 guru hear to help me out...I have the RCA's from the ford harness plugged into the non fadding RCA's on the AVIC...I have the 12v-5V step down in place...and still nothing out the lower speakers on my doors...HELP!! I MISS MY BASS!!!!!


Have you tried any other RCA output that the Z1 has? I cant remember which ones i used when I did my install but I had no problems. I am assuming you check what the actual voltage drop is. I actually had mine a little higher than the 5v I remember that.

put them in front, rear, and nonfad/sub...I set the rear sp setting to FULL/FULL so it pointed to the nonfader...sounds a little better but I am not feeling anything from those

I recieved all mine today, AVIC-Z1, i-Pod adapater, Harness, and face kit for $1699.00.

My friend is a whole seller for Pioneer, and does these installs, so mine was free.

Does anybody know how to overide the dvd player so u can watch it while u drive?

check out avic411.com for the ways to get around it :)

How cool would it be to put it (RV Camera) under the glove box for when ur passenger wears a skirt?? hehehhe just kidding my girl would beat me up for even saying it. Didnt happen!!

I installed my AVIC-Z1 yesterday following all the instructions and help from this thread. Special thanks to Outatime for starting this one, and thanks to all the other contributors to this thread as well, it really helped me plan out my install and it went really smooth.

Unit works and looks great! Sounds way better than the Shaker 500. I was worried that the nav unit would take away from the retro look of the interior but now that its in, seeing it in person, I think it really compliments the look. Since I have a vert, and no rear deck, I installed my antenna on the dash in the far right hand corner on the passenger side, since its small and black it is not even noticeable. My unit was manufactured in August so I grounded the parking brake and pin 1 of connector 2 and the bypass worked like a charm, fully functional including DVD operation in motion.

My only problem is that my subs pop, similar to the last post from jakeoooh. I used the 5V regulator, wired up per the instructions, but I get the pop whenever the system powers up. Anyone else come across this problem and figure out how to overcome it?

Can anyone tell me in detail the difference that this HU makes in the SQ department, I am planning on buying one next week.

this message is for outatime (hope i spelled it right). dude where the heck is that speed wire. Ive been driving around with a lose wire for the speed sensor hehhee. I cant freakin find it. It works but it bugs the crap outta me knowing that the install isnt finished.

OK for anyone that followed the intructions for installing the voltage regulator but are still experiencing the subwoofer "pop" read on...

I posted my question on the avic411.com site and got a few suggestions. None of those actually solved my problem, but since I had the unit out I tried a few other things and eliminated my pop.

Try swapping the "In" vs. "Out" connections on the Voltage Regulator (and I must admit those instructions were the most confusing part of the entire install). I thought I had mine correct, but I guess not.

I would have assumed that hooking up the voltage regulator backwards would have prevented the subs from turning on, but based on my experience it seems that it would still pass a signal to turn on the amp, but just not regulate the voltage to eliminate the pop.

The other thing to note is that many folks also said that the pop can be caused by the location of the ground wire for the voltage regulator. Many suggest moving this to a location closer to the battery (or directly to it). I didn't seem to need to do this but if swapping the voltage regulator wires doesn't help this might be causing your problem as well.

Hope this helps anyone still out there with a "pop".

Ok maybe i missed it im sorry my eyes were hurting from trying to read the whole thread.....but anyways my questions are......Does the AVIC-Z1 have the speed volume thing and is there a way to din the backlight with the rest of the instrument panel like on the shaker1000??

You can use the "dimming" function as discussedearlier inthis thread. It includespictures. You will have to hook up a wire directly to the headlight switch.

As for the speed volume, I do not think it is possible.

Question? I had my Z1 installed without any add ons. I thought I had read somewhere that there was a Aux Input to hook you iPod to. I only play my iPod on shuffle and I don't care to have controls on the screen. I see that a "connector 2" was left in the box with lots of connections. The question is can I hook my iPod thru a headphone male-to-male plug to one of the Aux input RCA plugs IF the "connector 1" has them and IF I can get to the connector wires? Getting the feeling I should have just sprang for the iPod controller from the get go!

Thanks!

PS: Dotbomb ... my installer placed the GPS antenna between the two gauges on the top of the dash. He had to tell me where it was ... I couldn't fine it. Seems to be the perfect place. IMO

Decided to go ahead and pick up the iPod adapter from Bestbuy for $49.95... just need to get it installed!

can u take a pic of the GPS antenna so i can see how it looks and where exactly it is.

Thanks.

Sorry it took me awhile...

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The Z1...

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I just bought a Z1 with the Bluetooth, XM, and Serius modules. I also went to RatShack and got my regulator with caps, and resistors(undecided which to use). My car has factory Sirius. Can someone tell me where the factory Sirius unit is? Anyone know if there is room in the dash for all my crap? I am planning on using my factory Sirius antenna and putting my GPS and XM under my dash. I'm going to put the Z1 in my Honey Pie tomorrow, Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Matt N.

Okay. Did the install today. Sirius and XM tuners went in the right rear quarter panel. This is where the factory Sirius unit was. I used the factory Sirius antenna on the new tuner. Put the XM and GPS antenna under the carpet on the rear deck(they work great there). The Bluetooh adapter is double-stick taped to the inside of the dash on the passenger side above the glove box. The microphone is on the top of my A-pillar. Since I have a new Z1, I only had to do the two wire grounding method to bypass the lockout. The whole install took me a long time to do.A lot of the time went to figuring out what to do with the satellite tuners and the antennas, tearing the rear interior out of the car, and making a bracket to hold the tuners. Itis a super clean install. People take note... The picture of the regulator in this post is wrong. The Collector side of the regulator goes to the Z1 and the Emitter side goes to the factory Amp.

Hey everyone, thanks for all of the great info here on the install. I never would have attmepted this on my own without the info on this forum!

With that being said, I feel obligated to share info that I couldn't find while doing my searches.
So I installed my Oct '06 unit into my '06 GT Mustang.

A. Here is what I did....
1. I soldered all my connections (never did this before but it was easier than expected) and used shrinkwrap afterwards (from home depot) as well as those tap connectors on the others.

2. Order your harness and the F150 install kit from Crutchfield! Then, you can call them up anytime for support on any part of the install using the order number that comes onn your invoice. They were extremely helpful and they're open 8am-12am est, except X-mas and thanksgiving!

3. The harness from Crutchfield has two blue/white wires (I'm pretty sure that's their color) to send power to the amp. The Z1 only has one wire. I called Crutchfield twice and on the second call I got an answer that made the most sense ands was the correct one: their harness is designed to work with a variety of Ford systems, therfore they put in two power wires, one on the top right and the other on the bottom right. Simply look at the Z1 harness and you'll see that it's power wire is on the top left. So we use the top left wire to solder together and just tape off the other wire since it's not being used.

4. The bypass works beautifully. I found in some link the tip regarding moving the cell mute wire to the other harness. I've heard of people having problems with bad connections. :idea: The tip was: use a jewler's screwdriver (or anything with a tiny tip) when initially removing the wire from the first harness. On the topside of the harness is a small piece of metal that's visible. If you gently lift that (a toothpick may even work) you can pull the wire out, including the metal connector that it's crimped to on the end. Then you slot that into the other harness on the bottom right location and it snaps right in place securely!

5. When you're all done you've grounded four wires (misc info for reference): the parking brake wire, the unit itself, the cell mute wire in it's new bypass position on the 2nd harness, and the middle leg wire of the 5v regulator (see #7 below on this). Plus to find a spot to ground it to I drilled a small hole into the metal fram that sopports the whole dashbord directly behind the Z1 unit. I used those crimp style connectors with the O-shaped piece of metal on it to make sure they weren't going anywhere. Then I used a small screw to attach them to the frame. (I do have a small buzz when I press a button, I tried grounding the head unit separtately and it made no difference. It's minimal so I'll leave it for now.)

6. VVS, Reverse Wire, and Dimmer wire (ILL I believe):
1. Crutchfield was very helpful here: The VVS wire goes to through the firewall and to the main computer at the front right of the car (if you're sitting in the driver's seat, the front right corner). Attached to the main computer are three chunky black plugs with grey "handles", you want the top one fortunately. Pull back on the grey handle and it'll come undone. This is a 50 pin plug and you want pin 3, the dark blue/yellow stripe to tap into. To get to them gently raise the four black tabs that hold the cover over the harness and pull it off.

ALSO, along the passenger side firewall is a rubber something or other, about 3" in diameter. I saw that the stereo shop went through here to install my alarm. I went into the engine compartment, took out the battery, unscrewed the three bolts that hold down the tray, and moved it to the side (something else is attached to it so I just moved it out of my way) Then I went back inside the car, used a wire coat hanger and wrapped the end around the end og my pink wire. And used that to push it through the opening into the engine bay. Go to the engine bay, you won't see the wire but you'll need to reach your hand down and behind the metal to find where it came through, and you've got it.

Reverse wire: Crutchfield said it is in the passenger kick panel, and it's on a 52 pin plug, pin 13, a white /yellow striped wire. I couldn't find this for the life of me. There is a 50 pin plug kind hidden, I think it's blue while everything else is black. But I couldn't remove the cover to see what was in pin 13 slot. I didn't even see a white/yellow wire... I did remove the doorsill kick panel to see what wires were running back for the taillights and saw several white/yellow wires, checked my trunk and also saw the white/yellow wire. So back in the front of the car I tapped into one of these.... and it doesn't look like it works. I'll try again later, doesn't seem to affect me so far. :lol:

Dimmer switch: I thought I read somewhere that for the '06 models you couldn't simply hook up the dimmer switch from the Avic to the dimmer wire in the crutchfield harness cause that wasn't working any longer. The known fix was going to the headlight switch. So I disassembled the panel, unplugged the two switches, looked and took my best guess and tapped into the Yellow/Green wire on the top corner of the plug. AND it worked! So tap into that one on the main switch, not the switch that goes to the brightness dial.

7. Going back to the sub-harness and the regulator fix: Buy that piece from Radio Shack (+5 Fixed-Voltage Regulator #7805). It has three legs to it so solder three 2-in wires to each and shrink wrap the part closest to the black main piece. Then with the regulator sitting flat on it's back and the three legs facing you, solder the blue wire from the Z1 harness to the IN leg left most leg), then solder the blue wire from the top position of the Crutchfield harness to the OUT leg (right most leg), then solder a 2-foot or so wire to the middle leg so you can ground it. It works!

:?: B. I have two outstanding issues with my install:
1. My radio reception is almost non-existant. It gets two channels only. It is pluggged in all the way, and I also confirmed that the additional connection that runs behind and under the glove box is tightly connected. Suggestions? With my stock setup I used one of those shorty antennas and it worked perfectly. I'm thinking I should try the stock antenna and see if that makes a difference... :roll:

2. I missed the reverse wire and apparenlty chose the wrong wire to tap into since the diagnosic settings doesn't recognize when I put it into reverse. Detailed suggestions?

I cant' thank eveyone enough!

LM :D

I currently do not have have reverse wire hooked up either and it will work fine. I will eventually just tap into a wire in the trunk.

i have this unit and was wondering if anyone got the camera for it....if so how much was it...and did you install it in the front or back? i want to install mine in the grille and then hook my video camera up to the video outs ont heback and record some driving......btw i love this tuner....my sattelite and gps nav antennas are mounted on the inside of the drivers side window....works great... i got siruis (stern rulez....baba booey baba booey babba booey) and the blue tooth....i highly reccommend this unit to anyone with an s197...i love it.... any help on the above inquiries would be great,.....

Bringing an old but great thread back to the top ;)

I'm going to be installing my Z1 today after losing my blob with my 2 month old kenwood 7100 unit [for the last time] (another story and one I won't bore you with).

Anyway, reading through this thread has been awesome, some great tips and fixes, thanks all. My question though, is this. What does the the VSS line actually do for me or the AVIC unit anyway? I may be missing the point, but the unit has GPS which measures speed (d'uh) so why does the Vehicle Speed Signal have any input? Surely it can't be merely to let the unit know I'm going backward? What would happen ifI left it unattached?

Marcus
:)

So, the Z1 is installed. I went to a local audio shop where they fitted it and didn't mind me standing over them waving the printouts I'd made containing the info I'd gotten here.

I did have the VSS line installed, for whatever it's worth. One of the installers thought he knew best and picked up the headlight cable in the passenger kick panel area [?], which did not work out. So they relocated it to the switch, which I'd originally requested anyway :eek:

For me, the headlamp flash trick works, so I'm relieved about that.

I have spent the last hour or so setting it up and I really like it a lot,about 10000% better than the kenwood 7100 "Turd special" I have been using LOL

how much was it with install

I lucked in big time. I found a local electronics store was ceasing to sell Pioneer stuff, they had Pioneer stuff on sale all over the floor. I asked about the Z1, they had one only, the one on display. It was in perfect condition and had all the bits, they wanted $1100 [Canadian] for it. I imagine they got their lines crossed between it and the D3 next to it, so I immediately agreed and they removed it for me there and then. I jogged out the store with it before they called me back LOL

Audio shop ran me $100 for the install.

outatime - you're officially too cool for school. that setup is awesome!

Ok, I've got some questions for you guys who did this install...

I'm going to do an install with a JVC KW-XG700, which, while not a DVD/Nav unit, is going to be a similar type of install, since I'll be doing the XM and Bluetooth for my car.

When you pulled off the trim panels that go up and down on each side of the radio, do they just pry off? The last thing I want to do is pull at it and hear a crack/snap and find that I've got to shell out $$$ for a new trim piece. I know that I have to pull the console out, but it seems like there's a point where the plastic snaps in...

Also, with the XM/Sirius units (as far as I'm concerned, the add-on tuners are basically the same when it comes to mounting), where did you guys mount them? Any problems/concerns I need to be aware of when installing it in my car?

Once you remove the center console, the side panels just pop off. No screws or anything. Just tug.

Yep. Just two screws holding the centre console on then, apart from a single plastic press-in clip on each kick panel (if you even need to get them off), it's all push fit.

That looks like a very nice setup. I have the Kenwood DVD/Navigation and I absolutely love it. The navigation feature is much easier to use than the factory nav and much more reliable. I have my iPod hooked up in the glovebox at all times where the music relays very clearly and you can skip through the songs pretty fast. My fave feature of that is that it shows all the album artwork! The DVD feature I play while moving all the time. Not sure if I have a toggle switch or not, but I had it professionally installed and the guys hooked me up. There was a bluetooth feature which I did not get, but it sounded like a nice feature to have. It was another $200...so I didn't opt for it. Would have been nice, especially since my cars a 5-speed.

Overall I really recommend this unit--I haven't had any problems with it.

Sorry if the pictures of the stereo are not clear as those where taken w/ a camera phone!!! :)

To be fair, there was a 4 week delivery time on the 7100 when I ordered it so I took the 7019 with the G510 NAv unit. Kenwood themselves told the installer that the pairing was perfect, they were essentially designed to compliment each other. Installation for the guys was a cinch, two bus cables joined the two and all seemed fine.
Unfortunately, after some time with the unit I went back to them thinking I was a retard or something as the NAV function was greyed out on the 'front door'. They were real good about it. We goofed with it for over an hour without success and they offered a swap out which I declined in lieu of more research. Turns out that there's a software bug which basically means the function selection screen doesn't see the NAV unit although you can get to it by cycling through the video/audio feeds.
When I had the NAV unit up it was fine, I am a great fan of Garmin software anyway.
I had the iPOD Video cable on it also which worked nicely.

Cons
- Unable to get to NAV screens without fumbling with source selections
- HUGE - MEGA - HUMUNGOUS Pop on Amp startup. Voltage regulator in amp line didn't help at all
- Massive amount of spagetti cabling on the rear of the unitwas unsettling
-Flying leads for external inputs/outputs too short, would just reach into the glove box although they usually fell out when glove box was opened

Pros
- Extensive audio setup options. Sound output very nice (Pioneer better)
- Tilt screen is a very nice touch
- Garmin module contains all software with SD slot for updates. Nice touch.

So, what did I do with the Kenwood? Trash Can? Ebay? No, going to install it in the wife's Golf tomorrow LOL

Couple of pics of the install. Pretty standard fayre, but hey :D

http://www.mkeeler.com/mustang/AVIC2.jpg

http://www.mkeeler.com/mustang/AVIC1.jpg

ORIGINAL: marcuskeeler

So, the Z1 is installed. I went to a local audio shop where they fitted it and didn't mind me standing over them waving the printouts I'd made containing the info I'd gotten here.

I did have the VSS line installed, for whatever it's worth. One of the installers thought he knew best and picked up the headlight cable in the passenger kick panel area [?], which did not work out. So they relocated it to the switch, which I'd originally requested anyway :eek:

For me, the headlamp flash trick works, so I'm relieved about that.

I have spent the last hour or so setting it up and I really like it a lot,about 10000% better than the kenwood 7100 "Turd special" I have been using LOL


Why do this for the bypass when you have the 2 wire bypass available...much easily and doesnt require any work at all.

To be honest the whole VSS thing had me somewhat confused. Although, as you say, that would seem to be the case, other people (on this thread included) seem to be making huge efforts to get it connected despite having already worked the bypass as I have.I was merely covering the possibility that the VSS had other uses including maybe the dynamics facility.
I've specifically asked others what the VSS gives the AVIC other than the knowledge of when to clamp down the options whilst moving but nobody has an answer, including my installer who also called another shop who he knew specialized in Pioneer (They install the VSS & activate the bypass as a matter of course). There was an idea that the speed sensor told the AVIC that the car motion was to be disregarded whilst in reverse although a) Who cares about that anyway b) The VSS signal is merely positive pulses on a 0v baseline, forward/reverse, it doesn't know either.

The VSS line is used to more accurately determine your location, and does not have anything to do with disabling the menu options in motion. The menu options are controlled by accelerometers in the AVIC itself. This is necessary since not all vehicles output a VSS signal (aka older vehicles), and the unit can potentially be installed on such a vehicle. The unit correlates the motion it recieves from the satellite with the VSS signal and makes "corrections" to your position so that it can accurately predict how far you are from upcoming turns.

With respect, I have to disagree with you on the VSS function. The VSS will never be as accurate or consistent as GPS, it would be an utter waste of time trying to correlate the two.
Think of tire wear for example, the rolling circumference of the tire between new and old will be [over miles] vastly different.

Other than that, the unit functions perfectly well without the VSS attached, as others have proven.

ORIGINAL: marcuskeeler

With respect, I have to disagree with you on the VSS function. The VSS will never be as accurate or consistent as GPS, it would be an utter waste of time trying to correlate the two.
Think of tire wear for example, the rolling circumference of the tire between new and old will be [over miles] vastly different.

Other than that, the unit functions perfectly well without the VSS attached, as others have proven.


Nope it does use the vss also. What happens if you loose the GPS signal or it is to weak....is has the VSS to help out. Check out avic411.com for more info.

Has anyone had problems with radio reception with the z1 in the Mustang 06 GT? My AM reception is really bad. I have read something about connecting the blue power antenna wire to the cars diversity antenna wire. Does the Mustang have this type setup?
Thanks
Greg