who cares if they're puting a bigger engine in the falcon they're running the same amount of power and odds are theres extra weight with the larger displacement
That Falcon Boss engine is putting out quite a bit more than the current 4.6 in the GT's. Of course, the Falcons are much heavier than the Mustangs, so they might be pretty close in the 1/4.
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the main reason ford wont bring the falcon over here is bad relations see Ford America and Ford Australia dont get along because of corporate stuff if i remember right and it has been like that for many years
and i dont see y u guys r caring about the 5.4L being in the falcons cause the 4.0L I6 in the flacons r out performing the v8s over there and have been for awhile and thats y i want one of the 4.0L crossflow I6 tubo motors for my car but it costs too much to import one
and it would be hard for those to pass emissions over here if imported because over in Australia the still use leaded fuel
the only reason they still have leaded fuel in australia is for the older trucks and tractors around any modern vehical made or imported to ausiland definatly do not run leaded. its too hard on fuel injected engines to run leaded fuel.
the main reason ford wont bring the falcon over here is bad relations see Ford America and Ford Australia dont get along because of corporate stuff if i remember right and it has been like that for many years
and i dont see y u guys r caring about the 5.4L being in the falcons cause the 4.0L I6 in the flacons r out performing the v8s over there and have been for awhile and thats y i want one of the 4.0L crossflow I6 tubo motors for my car but it costs too much to import one
and it would be hard for those to pass emissions over here if imported because over in Australia the still use leaded fuel
yeah.. the I6 turbo may be faster stock... but im sure with a 5.4L you have alot more room to play. afterall i think that 5.4 is the same 351W we put in the 07 gt500 and the f150. and if thats the case, you have all that wonderful aftermarket crap you can buy for it. i much rather get the v8.
actualy the fact that its 5.4L is just a coincidence the ausi boss290 is built in australia for australians if you took the time to look at www.ford.com.au or www.fpv.com.au you will see a ford engine that doesn't look like any ford engine youve ever seen befor.
Joshafmil and strongstang, WTF are you guys talking about?
A 5.4L is not a 351W. It's an OHC mod motor. a 351W is not what is in the 07 GT500 nor has it been in an F150 in the last 10 years.
The australian motor doesn't look anything like any American motor? Are you freaking blind? It's a 4V 5.4L with a different intake manifold. It's got the exact same valve covers as any other DOHC mor motor with coil on plug.
If you don't have a clue, don't post random crap. Sorry about brining back the week old post but I ran across it in a google search and couldn't believe the retarded crap being posted.
note the bore and stroke of both 5.4L's. if you need mroe, find some engine pictures and open your eyes when you look at them.
The 351W is a 4 inch bore and a 3.5 inch stroke. it comes out to 5.8L's. They were known as 5.8L's in such things as the 1993-95 Ford lightning and 95 Cobra R. As opposed to the 99-04 Lightning and 00 cobra R which had the 5.4L's.
i don't know where you got the windsor motor from but i wasn't talking about that. i know its not an american engine because if you did some research you would have found that the boss 290 is built in australia meening that it doesn't use any crossover parts its just happenstance that the displacement was 5.4L now go to www.fpv.com.au and read all about it on the falcon gt-p and the super pursuit. Joshafmil is on crack saying that the 5.4L which is in the GT500 and the F150 was the same as a 351W.
it's the same engine design. it doesn't matter where they build it. same displacementt from the same bore and the same stroke with the same deck height, etc., etc., etc. if I buy a bunch of 5.4L parts and put them together in my garage it's still a Ford 5.4L mod motor. it doesn't matter where it's put together. It's the same deal.
Australian mod motors are the same as the American ones. its all the same stuff at the heart of it all. It doesn't matter where you put it together.
So the FPV engine has a different intake manifold. The bare block is the same, the timing chain portion is the same. The heads are manucfatured in Windsor as well as the cranks: [quote="wikipedia"]Ford of Australia uses modular V8s in the Ford Falcon and Ford Fairlane sedan model ranges, as well as in its high performance Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) division models. The DOHC Modular V8s are coined Boss by Ford of Australia, with a number designation referring to power output in kW. The 230 kW Barra engine and Boss 260 and 290 shortblocks, heads and crankshafts are built in Windsor, Ontario. [/quote]
They put the motor together in australia and there isn't one with that same confiuration as far as being a DOHC 5.4L with that intake being used in the US. It's still the same 5.4L underneath. that's the only thing they are saying when they say it's unique to Australia. It is no coincidence that the design parameters are equal. If you read about the intake you will discover it is very close to the cobra R unit. you think it's just coincidence that they are rated within 5 HP of each other too I suppose? it's not. Get a clue.
And here if you skip down to the V-8 portion you will find much talk afo parts coming from the US and the engine's US heritage. The engine asembly for the FPV cars is just like the engine assembly for the SVT cars here before. They are built on a special line by the best of their workers. http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_1523/article.html
Hey I have a question, i just got my first car, it is a 2000 ford mustang V6!!! And i was wondering how long it will last, bc it has alot of miles 157,789 to be exact!! How long do u expect my car to last, how long does the average 2000 mustang V6 usually last, and how long do u expect my car, with this many miles to last? The body and interior of the car is in basically perfect shape!!! I really appreciate you for helping me, and taking the time to answer my questions!!!
First thing to clarify - Leaded fuel is no longer available (or legal) in Australia, this includes off street racng applications. Getting emmissions passed for US should be no problems. Also, since your designs rules dictate fuel tanks must be mounted in front of the diff means it would also pass as it is already mounted there in the oz spec vehicles.
I have an XR8 AU (model before the one shown in the vids) - running standard factory motor with a set of ported SVO heads on 98 octane unleaded has resulted in 14.2 quarter mile time - drop that to about 13.8 with a stronger clutch & stickier tyres. Now compare that with a completely bog stock Turbo XR6 with just a small increase in boost has resulted in the same performance level.
Whether or not you are aware......Ford Australia had to detune the XR6 turbo from it's orginal planned tune as it was producing considerably more power that the XR8 - they feared they would lose sales to the XR6 Turbo.
Also, please note the in car vids shown are from the top of the line F6 Typhoon/Tornado - not an XR6 Turbo.
Ok, Allow me to Set this mess straight.. Most of you have some incredibly un-educated statements here..
Australian manufacturers include Holden (Gm) and Ford Australia. While they are both a part of the worldwide family of mainly American manufacturers.. The Australian made cars have no direct contact with American parties. The only car that Australia has ever exported to American shores was the Holden Monaro, which goes by the name Pontiac GTO. The reason this export occured? Pontiac was looking for a car that they could slap the GTO tag on, they looked to manufactures in the GM family world wide, and only one car came up to the standard, it was a Rear wheel drive powerhouse DESIGNED, CREATED AND MANUFACTURED IN AUSTRALIA. The Holden Monaro... The difference between Australian and America's GM products is simple, Quality.. end of story.
And onto the Ford discussion. The guy that said that the Falcon is a Pontiac GTO. your a bloody idiot mate. Holden and Ford are competitiors, thats why we have a car race called "V8 Supercars", Holden Vs Ford. This is a general statement, that is so damn accurate its not even funny. The reason that Ford America is looking to Australia and Europe for cars is as follows, American fords are absolute garbage with the exception on afew beautiful cars, like the Shelby Gt500 for example. Australain fords are, once again... DESIGNED, CREATED AND MANUFACTURED IN AUSTRALIA. There is no link what so ever to american made cars.
Australian cars are without question the most underrated in the world, with a build quality that is high and above American made cars. Like japanese, German and Korean, The world has long passed america in reference to automobiles. Hence the reason so many american people are totally boy-cotting us made, garbage, unreliable, fuel sucking monsters. This is the reason why American manufactures have been subject to rapidly declining sales for over 18 years now. They last time that an american manufacturer announced record sales was Dailmer Chrysler in 1998, and ford in 1989...
Read your facts, and get them straight. Read a paper or a magazine other then american and you might learn some truth about the rest of the world...
And again, AUSTRALIAN HOLDENS AND FORDS ARE AUSTRALIAN!!! A U S T R A L I A N!!!!!! not American!!!! Open your eyes and stop speaking rubbish!! The Boss 290 was designed from the ground up in AUSTRALIA!!! A U S T R A L I A!!! We have no reason to take anything from american cars, why? Because we make better cars, why would we use methods that we have advanced apon? LEADED FUEL IN AUSTRALIA?? ARE YOU BLOODY BRAINDEAD???? DAMMIT!!! Your stupidity really pisses me off!!!
OPEN AN ATLAS!!!! READ A BOOK!!! VISIT A AUSTRALIAN WEBSITE!! STOP BEING DUMBASSES!!!!
And again, AUSTRALIAN HOLDENS AND FORDS ARE AUSTRALIAN!!! A U S T R A L I A N!!!!!! not American!!!! Open your eyes and stop speaking rubbish!! The Boss 290 was designed from the ground up in AUSTRALIA!!! A U S T R A L I A!!! We have no reason to take anything from american cars, why? Because we make better cars, why would we use methods that we have advanced apon? LEADED FUEL IN AUSTRALIA?? ARE YOU BLOODY BRAINDEAD???? DAMMIT!!! Your stupidity really pisses me off!!!
OPEN AN ATLAS!!!! READ A BOOK!!! VISIT A AUSTRALIAN WEBSITE!! STOP BEING DUMBASSES!!!!
Mate, Again... If you dont know what your talking about, dont speak...
Go read a book and get your facts straight, Your talking ****. Are you aware that the boss 290 is being built on Ford Australia's first V8 production line? After being designed in Bendigo, Victoria, Australia. How do i know? Because a mate that works with ford was one people that worked on it...
Idiot, stop talking ****...
After witnessing comments like, "Falcon is a Pontiac, and Australia is still using Leaded Fuel" its as apparent that Americans know absolutly nothing about the word outside of their own. Go back to your ****ty Mustangs, its the poor mans sports car, One of the most overrated car i have ever driven.
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