I came across these articles and was wondering if anyone here has tried it, or know someone who has tried it.

http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=143848

Interesting reads.

Ive never heard of this before... [X(]

what the ****? really? wow...

ORIGINAL: SOLDSHORT

what the ****? really? wow...


hahaha, thats exactly what my reaction was.

Go ahead and try it and let us know what happens;)

ORIGINAL: JD1969

Go ahead and try it and let us know what happens;)

+1

Sounds good and stuff. But if it was really as great as explained, why havent we heard of it earlier ?


If any one tries this, surely tell us the results. I wouldnt mind getting better gas mileage myself.

That sounds awesome, but maybe too good to be true. 35% mpg increase from a shot of acetone? That would be f'n great!

Sounds too good to be true,... so it's probably bull**** lol

Another thread to look at & come to your own conclusions on......


http://socalhorsepower.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12470&highlight=acetone

Eh, I've heard of it before but havn't yet tried it.

I have a 96 Explorer with 160,000 miles on it. Next time I fill it up ill try this trick. If it works then great, if not, no big loss. Ill let you guys know the results after that tank.

Go fill up that explorer!

I have tried it a couple of years ago, and i really did not notice any difference. A buddy of mine swears that he got better gasmilage, but i did not notice it

I've actually read a lot about this on other forums. You can't put too much acetone, or it will show no gains, or maybe even a loss. You only put like..an ounce for every ~12 gallons of gas, if I remember correct. I doubt I am remembering that right though..but it was something around that.

I like putting salt in my gas tank. I get an instant 5 MPG more.[8D]

I believe it was 3 to 4 ounces for every 10 gallons. I did measure it out correct, i just didnt notice a difference

the article above says 1-3. if you put more than three it probably wouldnt have done anything. but i really dont think this will work that great anyway becuase you would think it would be more known if it did.

ORIGINAL: amrcnidyot
but i really dont think this will work that great anyway becuase you would think it would be more known if it did.


Exactly what I was thinking

we were discussing this on here about a year ago but I don't think anyone wanted to try it.

I know I won't.

I really don't know if I'd screw around with fuel chemistry if I were you. Too much or the wrong concentration per volume and you may run the risk of permanently screwing up your engine. Plus, many Mustang engine parts are aluminum (heads) and plastic (intake manifold). The wrong chemistry may eat some of these kind of parts right up! Better to once in a while add one of the quality "fuel system" cleaners to a full tank that are formulated to desolve the carbon, etc. from your valves, fuel injectors and pistons. End result is better fuel mileage and increase throttle response. Also, don't forget to change your fuel filter at least every 15,000 miles.

i dont think it will work. first of all, i think acetone and hydrocarbons (gasoline) are immiscible..... but aside from that, gasoline has very little surface tension to begin with, and acetone is just way too volatile to really help. they say to add a little in, but ive dumped about 1/4 cup of the stuff on the counter in the chem lab just for fun to watch it evaporate over the course of about 20 sec. they say to add very little, by the time u get to capping it, uve probably already lost most of it (thats assuming you can get polar and covalent fluids to mix...)

i think the term you are looking for is polar and nonpolar. hydrcarbons, such as gasoline, are theoretically long strands of carbon atoms whch are saturated with hydrogen. in reality, the primary constituents of gasoline are hexane and benzene. typically, these molecules will have two forces which bind them to on another; london forces and induced dipole, both of which are very weak attractive forces. since there is the existence of induced dipole in hydrocarbon molecules, acetone will be slightly miscible in gasoline. that's why you can't add too much, it won't mix.

as an interesting side note, i want to debunk the octane myth. higher octane fuel is not more combustible than lower octane fuel-quite the opposite. higher octane fuels are harder to combust, which is why higher octane fuel will resist detonation. the octane rating we use just refers to the fuels ability to resist detonation. so by purchasing octane booster and high octane pump gas, what you are actually doing is using a fuel that is less combustible. the myth that i am debunking here is that you will get better gas mileage with higher octane fuels. patently not true. the higher octane just allows you to use more advanced timing without the fear of detonation, THERE IS NOT INCREASE IN FUEL ECONOMY.

as another interesting side note, try mixing equal parts acetone and nitric acid. please do so from a distance. there is another name for this particular mixture: rocket fuel.

Interesting...but I owuld be to scared to try it

I took the chance and put it in my 95 escort beater car gets 40 mpg anyway but more is better I used 2oz to 10 gal I did not see much of a diff. but it did run better and the slight spark knock it has went away. ran that gas out put straight gas in and spark knock is back I will put less acetone in it 1.5 oz per 10 gal. of gas. I also got brave and put it in the wife everyday drive 2000 mustang v6 and I can tell you this it is on a record for mileage as of now I mean huge gains it gets around 170 miles to a half of tank and has got 214 this time and that was 2oz to 15 gals and the car runs better also. So it is working in one and not the other I think I got to much in the escort and that is why I have not seen big changes. the P/S Ford truck is next. I do think it is helping mileage and I know it is making them run better. But I can fix any thing I break up so that does make a diff. in tiring something

ORIGINAL: knucklefux

i think the term you are looking for is polar and nonpolar. hydrcarbons, such as gasoline, are theoretically long strands of carbon atoms whch are saturated with hydrogen. in reality, the primary constituents of gasoline are hexane and benzene. typically, these molecules will have two forces which bind them to on another; london forces and induced dipole, both of which are very weak attractive forces. since there is the existence of induced dipole in hydrocarbon molecules, acetone will be slightly miscible in gasoline. that's why you can't add too much, it won't mix.

as an interesting side note, i want to debunk the octane myth. higher octane fuel is not more combustible than lower octane fuel-quite the opposite. higher octane fuels are harder to combust, which is why higher octane fuel will resist detonation. the octane rating we use just refers to the fuels ability to resist detonation. so by purchasing octane booster and high octane pump gas, what you are actually doing is using a fuel that is less combustible. the myth that i am debunking here is that you will get better gas mileage with higher octane fuels. patently not true. the higher octane just allows you to use more advanced timing without the fear of detonation, THERE IS NOT INCREASE IN FUEL ECONOMY.

as another interesting side note, try mixing equal parts acetone and nitric acid. please do so from a distance. there is another name for this particular mixture: rocket fuel.



if u increase ur timing there is an incerease in mileage with higher octane fuels!!!! and the engine will run cooler and operate smoother!!

Hey rmodel65, I recognize your red stang. Are you also on the Mustang & Fast Fords group on myspace?

i actually heard of this. back when i was trying to decide what car to buy, i was on the wrx-sti path for awhile and i read that you put a gallon or pint or liter or quart or can or bottle or bucket or shot glass or mug of the stuff, cant remember, in each time you fill up, acts like a serious octane boost and gives you a minty fresh exhaust smell.

just fyi......Mythbusters proved that acetone in the gas tank to increase mileage was absolute crap. It actually made the fuel burn more quickly, decreasing the mileage. It ironically was on last night after I had spent the afternoon reading you guys discussing it on here, so it was cool to watch them "bust" the myth. They proved it in a vehicle with carb and with fuel injection...no gain what so ever, in fact made it worse.

I tried that once in a riding mower, then engine would bod and then rev trough the roof!!! That happened a few times the guess what......KABOOM!!!!!! No more rod or piston:D

ORIGINAL: JFettsRoush

just fyi......Mythbusters proved that acetone in the gas tank to increase mileage was absolute crap. It actually made the fuel burn more quickly, decreasing the mileage. It ironically was on last night after I had spent the afternoon reading you guys discussing it on here, so it was cool to watch them "bust" the myth. They proved it in a vehicle with carb and with fuel injection...no gain what so ever, in fact made it worse.

did they try it w/ varying amounts? That's strange since some people swear it's been workig for them.....

i would try it, but my dd is a gm. don't need it blowing up on me just yet!

Well I watched mythbusters last night and they busted, absolutely made no difference, seems like a self fulfilling prophecy for everyone that says that it worked, they even ran it on a dyno. It's amazing how a diesel motor can run on straight filtered used vegetable oil with only losing 3 mpg.

boooo mythbusters, i think it works. Some one try it and tell me that is works.....




Chris

.........It makes me what to run right out and drop in a turbo deisel, and then go order a bag of great biggie fries and ask for the oil instead, ha!

They used controlled amounts (equal) for each time they ran the vehicles on the dyno and of course it didn't perform any better.... it for the most part made the car perform worse.

Good luck with your experiementation guys. If it was a proven fact, then chemists would have done this crap a long time ago and proven that it works and not forcing us to be screwing around with 3.00/gal gas prices....think about it.

They were showing episode after episode of Mythbusters last night and I was watching them all. One of the episodes was the one other people have been refering to about this trick and how it doesnt work. After watching them do it, I decided to not try this on my Explorer.

I had a friend with a turbo Eclipse tell me that a vendor he and I do/did business told him that he(the vendor) added .25oz./gallon of gas and was able to raise his boost 3psi and the knock count did not go up! DSM's are typically tuned for about 3 counts of knock. I began researching it and found out more about mileage increases than acetone as an octane booster. Since I am driving my '90 Festive for the winter I bought a pint of acetone and began trying it with 2oz./8 gallons, 8 fills the tank. Today I filled it and got 32.4mpg which is quite high for winter driving and more like the best I ever get when driving it in the summer so I will finish the can and then see what happens while I record the mileage I get with the balance of the pint. I will continue researching the idea and if nothing changes from now until the Mustang comes out of winter storage I will try a couple of tanks with acetone. 4oz. added to a tank(16 gallons) is .002% which is not enough to cause damage in a couple of tanks. The knock resistance is what interests me. www.smartgas.net and www.lubedev.com are the two links that are pretty much done by the same fellow who claims to have been doing this since the early 50's and has nothing to sell or gain from it. It's winter and I'm bored so I will post the results with the Festiva and go from there. If anyone is driving a beater perhaps we could get a few to try this and see what the results are. Mark

Mythbusters tried it along with the magnet and nothing...........

Yeah, there are aqbout as many who say it does not work as there are testimonials of increases ibn mileage and trying it in my beater is not much of a risk. I did through this research find Torco which should convert 93 octane fuel to 100octane with about 32ounces and if bought in a 5 gallon barrel that works out to $.56 per gallon which I can live with to run my 100 tune. mark

ORIGINAL: JD1969

Go ahead and try it and let us know what happens;)


Exactly:D

I'll post each fill up in the Festiva and the mileage it gets. Remember this is only going to show if the acetone helps gas mileage. I will not likely try it in the Mustang but maybe a couple of timees as that is a much bigger investment than the winter beater. Knock resistance is what I am interested in so I can run my 100 octane tune I have in my SCT tuner but on 93 octane fuel and the Torco product seems well proven and again at $.56/gallon I am willing to pay for it as 100 unleaded available here is $5.50/gallon. I cannot hear knock and the 2v does not have a knock sensor so there is no way to test the knock resistance that is claimed for acetone even in the small quanties used. Probably fill again early next week and continue for at least this pint or may go longer if the numbers stay high on average as 1 fill is a poor measure! later, mark

ORIGINAL: MikeHawke

we were discussing this on here about a year ago but I don't think anyone wanted to try it.

I know I won't.


Well guess what Mike it's been another year & someone pulled up this old thread AGAIN :D

..cya again in 2008 most likely

Never heard of this before and...I don't think I am going to try this....[sm=noooo.gif]

What is really funny is that instead of Acetone, just put in TOLUENE. Toluene is basically another chemical that is a lot like paint thinner, you can buy it in big drums at Sherwin Williams or any other paint supply store.

Unlike Acetone, Toluene is much harder to combust than gasoline, and addint Toluene to your gas will effectively raise the octane rating. DSM and RX7 guys have been doing this for a while because it is much more cost effective than constantly buying race gas in order to run more boost.

Just Google it and I am sure that you will find out. Unlike the Acetone which is basically an urban myth, Toluene used to be the primary component in F1 race fuel in the 80s. It is a lot like running alcohol, although Toluene can be mixed with Gasoline and alcohol cannot.

Jon

I'll try it tomrow at work I have tons of cars I can try it on

Did u guys read this on the websiter?!Acetone and Your Engine Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a car's fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by a accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.

It's just an informercial for scan gauge (http://pureenergysystems.com/store/Scan_Gauge/)...he plugs it like 10 times in the article.....while you're at it, pick up one of his other books of crap listed on the right hand side.

oh...and judgeing by how long he says he has been doing this i'll estimate his age to be in the early to mid 90's...how many halfdead guys do you know that create, maintain or are regular contributors to websites...i know on none.