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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 7:46:30 PM   
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damn high 12's just with headers.. maybe he will trade me cars! :p

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 7:48:35 PM   
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damn high 12's just with headers.. maybe he will trade me cars! :p


What do you have?

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 7:53:44 PM   
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manual 05 gt

jba long tubes
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.. think thats it

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 8:01:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hufenstang

manual 05 gt

jba long tubes
jba h pipe cats
steeda udp
jlt 2 cai
steeda tri ax shifter
sct xcal 2 and custom dyno tune
4.10 gears
steeda rear lower control arms
tokico d-spec shocks and struts
adjustable panhard bar
steeda springs
steeda g-trac brace

.. think thats it


You can definitely take that LS1. Your car should be low 12s. What kind of rear tire are you running?

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 8:06:42 PM   
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they are the stock pirelli at the moment, which i believe is my downfall and may cause me to lose, i havent been to the track since i have added all of this stuff but i am looking forward to it.

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 8:08:55 PM   
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they are the stock pirelli at the moment, which i believe is my downfall and may cause me to lose, i havent been to the track since i have added all of this stuff but i am looking forward to it.


The stock tires are not that bad though. I still think you can take him by a decent margin. Go from a stop or a low roll. You can cut 1.XX 60fts with the stock pirellis. Good luck man! I would love to see pics of your ride man!

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 9:31:35 PM   
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93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 9:56:21 PM   
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93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.




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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 10:55:30 PM   
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93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.


ive seen a stock 05 gt beat a stock ls1 z28, but for the most part, you are right. the cool thing about the 3V engine is that it responds just as well to mods as an ls1 for the most part, which makes the 4.6 finally competetive with ls1 'maros. not saying either necessarily has more potential, aside from the ls1 having more power stock, but its nice to have have to have FI to win against the occasional SS.

lt1 vs. 3V is in our favor though, generally speaking

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/27/2006 11:31:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sleeper05


quote:

ORIGINAL: 05MidBlueGT

93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.


ive seen a stock 05 gt beat a stock ls1 z28, but for the most part, you are right. the cool thing about the 3V engine is that it responds just as well to mods as an ls1 for the most part, which makes the 4.6 finally competetive with ls1 'maros. not saying either necessarily has more potential, aside from the ls1 having more power stock, but its nice to have have to have FI to win against the occasional SS.

lt1 vs. 3V is in our favor though, generally speaking


Be careful though the 2001-2002 LS1 camaros are still deadly. Out here in Cali theyre poping up everywhere!

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 3:17:57 AM   
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You're not kidding about the Cameros popping up everywhere. I think they finally hit a sweet spot on the used car charts and now your speed demons are gobbling them up. I've seen a lot more of them showing up here in Florida as well.

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 3:23:34 AM   
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You're not kidding about the Cameros popping up everywhere. I think they finally hit a sweet spot on the used car charts and now your speed demons are gobbling them up. I've seen a lot more of them showing up here in Florida as well.


The guns have stopped firing for now. No white flag but a definite break from the muscle car civil war.

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 8:40:48 AM   
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93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.



Don't forget in 1997 some SS cars (not all) were built with LT4 motors that came from the 1996 corvette grandsport. The LT4 had the same power as the early LS1 but had gobs more torque. However I believe you could only get the LT4 with the 6 spd.

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 12:33:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 05MidBlueGT

93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.



Don't forget in 1997 some SS cars (not all) were built with LT4 motors that came from the 1996 corvette grandsport. The LT4 had the same power as the early LS1 but had gobs more torque. However I believe you could only get the LT4 with the 6 spd.


The LT4 motor is the revised edition on the LT1. The stock LT1 puts out 300hp. Later Chevy answered with a 330hp LT4 with 340lbs of torque. The LS1 was brought out in 1997 had more power than both. The earliest one put out 340hp with 375lbs of torque. Chevy's revision to the LS1 is the LS6. They always follow the same format and change the cylinder heads to crank out more HP. In 2005 Chevy introduced the LS2 which carries 400hp. The revision to that is the new LS7 which puts out 505hp.


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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 12:55:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 05MidBlueGT

93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.



Don't forget in 1997 some SS cars (not all) were built with LT4 motors that came from the 1996 corvette grandsport. The LT4 had the same power as the early LS1 but had gobs more torque. However I believe you could only get the LT4 with the 6 spd.


The LT4 motor is the revised edition on the LT1. The stock LT1 puts out 300hp. Later Chevy answered with a 330hp LT4 with 340lbs of torque. The LS1 was brought out in 1997 had more power than both. The earliest one put out 340hp with 375lbs of torque. Chevy's revision to the LS1 is the LS6. They always follow the same format and change the cylinder heads to crank out more HP. In 2005 Chevy introduced the LS2 which carries 400hp. The revision to that is the new LS7 which puts out 505hp.




When was a LT1 Camaro rated at 300 hp? Was that the SS?

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 1:05:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: averyr18


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quote:

ORIGINAL: 05MidBlueGT

93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.



Don't forget in 1997 some SS cars (not all) were built with LT4 motors that came from the 1996 corvette grandsport. The LT4 had the same power as the early LS1 but had gobs more torque. However I believe you could only get the LT4 with the 6 spd.


The LT4 motor is the revised edition on the LT1. The stock LT1 puts out 300hp. Later Chevy answered with a 330hp LT4 with 340lbs of torque. The LS1 was brought out in 1997 had more power than both. The earliest one put out 340hp with 375lbs of torque. Chevy's revision to the LS1 is the LS6. They always follow the same format and change the cylinder heads to crank out more HP. In 2005 Chevy introduced the LS2 which carries 400hp. The revision to that is the new LS7 which puts out 505hp.




When was a LT1 Camaro rated at 300 hp? Was that the SS?


LT1 camaro, never. LS1 camaro got 310hp. Chevy took put the 300hp LT1 from the corvette and put it in the camaro. I believe they had a detuned 285hp They infamous 1996 impala ss got the most detuned version with a 260hp LT1. All camaro SS pre LS1 only had minor enhancements over the base z28. They have the same engine and same 20 additional HP. Thus for making a 1997 camaro SS put out 305hp. The ram air helps quite a bit.


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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 1:48:17 PM   
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Wasn't there a limited LT4 z-28 option sometime before the LS1's came out that had about 335hp?

Edit: I thought so '97 w/330hp

http://www.carcraft.com/roadtests/908/

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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 2:19:30 PM   
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Wasn't there a limited LT4 z-28 option sometime before the LS1's came out that had about 335hp?

Edit: I thought so '97 w/330hp

http://www.carcraft.com/roadtests/908/


Yep a limited edition 35th anniversary SS camaro. The result is 330 hp in the Camaro, the same rating as in the 1996 Corvette. All SS LT4s are six-speed-equipped and come in coupe form only--no convertibles. As powerful as it is, the LS1 still takes the cake when it comes to peak HP.


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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/28/2006 2:50:11 PM   
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93-97 LT1 is faster then all GT's up to '04.
98-02 LS1 is faster then all stock Mustang GT's, PERIOD.
We all know it, deal with it.


ive seen a stock 05 gt beat a stock ls1 z28, but for the most part, you are right. the cool thing about the 3V engine is that it responds just as well to mods as an ls1 for the most part, which makes the 4.6 finally competetive with ls1 'maros. not saying either necessarily has more potential, aside from the ls1 having more power stock, but its nice to have have to have FI to win against the occasional SS.

lt1 vs. 3V is in our favor though, generally speaking


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RE: 1997 camaro SS vs 2006 Mustang GT - 4/29/2006 12:30:22 AM   
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