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New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/22/2004 9:20:24 PM   
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I gotta say that the "new old" styling is nice and brings back warm nostalgic feelings. Like how ya feel when you see the "new old" T-bird, the "new old" Mustang... the soon to be "new old" Shelby Cobra... "new old" GT and so forth.


But where the heck is the new stuff for American sports cars? The innovation of something different? Completely surprising designs? New American muscle!?!?!

That's why foreign sports cars are selling so much better than the American ones. Folks actually want something different. Something that says faster, better, safer, more reliable, and futuristic.

Thoughts?

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 1:52:44 AM   
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i must say i agree with you. the "new old" stuff is kinda nice but it's starting to be played out. i just hope they don't turn all cars into hybrids. where did you get the cover in the back? and can you still use the back seat? What is it called? please let me know. also with your mods, do you us 91 or 87 octane? thanks ahead of time.

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 8:18:00 AM   
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I'd have to agree as well. Although I like all those cars, it be nice to see some new stuff like what Pontiac did with the GTO. I'm probably going to own a 05 style mustang but it just seems like we've been there and done that.

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 9:25:13 AM   
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quote:

where did you get the cover in the back? and can you still use the back seat? What is it called? please let me know. also with your mods, do you us 91 or 87 octane? thanks ahead of time.


lbst8u,
It's called a speedster tonneau cover and you can get them from www.abcexclusive.com. You can't use the back seat when it's on of course but they pop off easy. Just make sure you have plenty of good weather when you drive out with one. With these mod.s I can only use 93 Octane or there a chance of detonation in the engine.

50fiend,
Hey the GTO looks new but that style has been done already in the Gran Prix... and the whole car(with it's LS-1) has been marketed in Austrailia as the Manaro. They hated them there because of how unreliable they were. Even the test model in Car & Driver had a ton of stuff wrong with it... Ya can't put a 310 HP engine in a car that only was designed for 180 and not watch it fall apart... Just an FYI brain fart.

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 10:01:28 AM   
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I knew the GTO was a Grand Prix but I didn't know they already marketed it in another country. What's up with all the cool cars going other places than the US? I was aware of this when I was into imports but now that I am into Mustangs I'm seeing that even US companies do the same thing. What's the deal? Aren't we the car country? I know about all the emission controls, blah, blah, blah, but dang, why don't we get cars with the powerful motors too. For instance the Focus RS, sold only in Europe. Imagine how that would hook up. WHY, WHY, WHY?

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 3:58:29 PM   
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I have no comments on other makes and models

But Im totally with Ford on the new styling!!!! If you think about it the "Mustang" has to stay looking like a mustang!!! It would defeat the whole purpose of ever inventing the style if it starts to look like another "new age design"
I mean cars that are being producted now days look nothig like they used too!!!!
And Ford is keeping the beauty that started the whole thing!!!! Yeah its retro styled but how many different body styles can you make for one model..... I mean ideas are limited!!!!! So bringing back the flare that started in the 60's is awesome!!! It reminds most us why we fell in love with them in the first place.....

The new body style is classic!!!! Its just plain rad!!! Every body style made all has the same characteristics... If you start changing them around too much there wont be.... Ford is smart.....

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 4:00:23 PM   
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I have no comments on other makes and models

But Im totally with Ford on the new styling!!!! If you think about it the "Mustang" has to stay looking like a mustang!!! It would defeat the whole purpose of ever inventing the style if it starts to look like another "new age design"
I mean cars that are being producted now days look nothig like they used too!!!!
And Ford is keeping the beauty that started the whole thing!!!! Yeah its retro styled but how many different body styles can you make for one model..... I mean ideas are limited!!!!! So bringing back the flare that started in the 60's is awesome!!! It reminds most us why we fell in love with them in the first place.....

The new body style is classic!!!! Its just plain rad!!! Every body style made all has the same characteristics... If you start changing them around too much there wont be.... Ford is smart.....

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 4:10:57 PM   
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The one thing I like about the retro style is that Ford isn't going to make a pansy car out of the mustang like the Chevy Impala. Which was originally a cool car, now it’s a mediocre family car. How about what they did to the Nova. Then they totally got rid of their affordable sports car. At least the Mustang’s performance has been improved and I really like the looks, I am just getting tired of the remakes. Like I said I hope to own one. I guess that’s kind of hypocritical isn’t it?

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 4:13:55 PM   
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Thats what every vehicle is.... Its a remake of the year before :)

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/23/2004 6:03:45 PM   
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quote:

I have no comments on other makes and models

But Im totally with Ford on the new styling!!!! If you think about it the "Mustang" has to stay looking like a mustang!!! It would defeat the whole purpose of ever inventing the style if it starts to look like another "new age design"
I mean cars that are being producted now days look nothig like they used too!!!!
And Ford is keeping the beauty that started the whole thing!!!! Yeah its retro styled but how many different body styles can you make for one model..... I mean ideas are limited!!!!! So bringing back the flare that started in the 60's is awesome!!! It reminds most us why we fell in love with them in the first place.....

The new body style is classic!!!! Its just plain rad!!! Every body style made all has the same characteristics... If you start changing them around too much there wont be.... Ford is smart.....

My opinions
Mello


I share your feelings as well about our current makes and models, But I just think we have room in America for something altogether new. As far as Ford goes I hope they will always keep the Mustangs, T-birds and Cobras. It's time though for new muscle!! I mean the Focus is great for what it does... but lets get some new V8 contenders out there!

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/24/2004 9:06:24 PM   
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Me personally, I like the new Mustangs. I do agree that it is being done very often, but look what happened in the 70s with the Mustang 2. That was an attempt at something totaly new and it was a flop. Im not saying that ALL new designs will suck, but why change something that people love and will buy??? You have to look at it from Fords point of view. Plus, Im sure that they did alot of marketing research before they went with it and if people didnt like it they wouldnt go through with it.

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/24/2004 9:34:52 PM   
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It would be awsome for Ford to make a new muscle V8... But then again Ford has signed something to start putting like 4 billion dollars into the SVT editions.... If they make another muscle it might take away from the stang and lightning and they sell them like crazy.. I think Ford might lose money in the areas where the most money comes in from if they start making any new V8's....

But you never know what the future holds......

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/24/2004 9:35:54 PM   
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It would be awsome for Ford to make a new muscle V8... But then again Ford has signed something to start putting like 4 billion dollars into the SVT editions.... If they make another muscle it might take away from the stang and lightning and they sell them like crazy.. I think Ford might lose money in the areas where the most money comes in from if they start making any new V8's....

But you never know what the future holds......

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RE: New retro stuff getting old...? - 4/26/2004 7:32:35 PM   
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Hey, do any of you guys drive any SVOs or Turbo cpupe Thunderbirds? I just got ahold of a 93' LX convertible and I'm trying to decide whether to go with the V8 or to go with an SVO/Turbo coupe setup. I could really care less how loud my car is. I am thinking about practicality and everyday drivability. However, if I can't find any parts for a turbo four stang, then I'm gonna have to go with a V8. If any of you guys happen to know any good places in TX to get SVO components, then please let me know.

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