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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 12:20:29 AM   
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you can go to cap or auto zone and ask them for a cable stop... they come in packs of two and cost $2.49 the get a tube of locktite and ur golden. They come in the kind that has the hole which u'll need to cut the factory stop off for. or a kind that slips on over the side and then tightens.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 2:56:30 AM   
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Just did this on my 1995 worked like a charm...thanks

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 11:14:38 AM   
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This mod just raises the gas petal, it doesn't increase throttle responce. The throttle may seem touchy, that's just because, you're not used to the petal being so far away from the floor.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 11:36:34 AM   
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In this article we will fix this "problem" by using a spacer and some fasteners where the throttle cable connects to the gas pedal to reduce the slack. This will allow you to achieve a wide open throttle and raise your gas pedal to about even height of the brake and clutch pedals.


Jeff
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Im not a mechanic, but has someone actually checked if u do indeed get full open throttle with this mod and not full open without it? What i was thinking is, if ford put everything where it was, wouldn't that mean it was measured out to an extent, so if before when u put ur pedal to the floor you would get full open, and now that it's 1.25 inches shorter if you slam ur gas pedal down, won't it put considerable strain on the throttle? I would just hate to be merging on the highway, and end up snapping my throttle cable and stalling.

Im not trying to argue with anyone, i just want to be 100% sure before i do anything like this.
Thanx guys,
Mike

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 12:41:51 PM   
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hey i didnt get a chance to do it as planned this weekend because of a wedding....other than opening the TB more and wasting more gas....is there any negative effects this mod could have on the car? like confusing the ECU and/or other sensors?


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ORIGINAL: metal militia

Im not a mechanic, but has someone actually checked if u do indeed get full open throttle with this mod and not full open without it? What i was thinking is, if ford put everything where it was, wouldn't that mean it was measured out to an extent, so if before when u put ur pedal to the floor you would get full open, and now that it's 1.25 inches shorter if you slam ur gas pedal down, won't it put considerable strain on the throttle? I would just hate to be merging on the highway, and end up snapping my throttle cable and stalling.

Im not trying to argue with anyone, i just want to be 100% sure before i do anything like this.
Thanx guys,
Mike


Exactly...I think I'm going to go talk to my mechanic buddy at Ford first. See what he thinks. It seemed like a great idea at first, but I wonder if Ford would have either a) done this on purpose or b) let a mistake like this get out. "Jefferson"...you said this was most apparent on 99-00s. Have you seen any '01s and up that were "fixed" from the factory. I'm not saying we don't believe you. I just want to be sure I'm not going to screw up my only mode of transportation; I have a 120 mile commute every weekend so like Mike said I dont want to be stranded on the side of the road with a snapped throttle cable and who knows what else broken.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 12:44:25 PM   
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if you can snap that cable, you are he-man.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 12:58:29 PM   
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if you can snap that cable, you are he-man.


lol...you never know...if anyone knows the NorCal bay area and Redwood Road in Oakland. I go up there maybe once every couple of weeks with my roommate who has a 4Cyl Auto Tiburon. I let him lead because I don't know the road like he does because he goes like 3x a week. And you KNOW there is NO way I'm letting a Tiburon pull away from me. Basically it is a Touge battle. For the non-JDM croud here (which is like 99.5%) Touge literally means curvy road in Japanese. Initial D style, two cars on a mountain road, the one in the lead tries to open a gap between the follower (cat and mouse kinda). If he does he wins the run. If the follower stays on his tail the whole time, he wins. Then you switch positions at the top of the hill and go down. His car handles 1000x better than mine and he has that Shiftronic feature (plus intake, exhaust, front and rear strut tower braces, and he is getting coilovers this weekend). The only way I keep up is with our cars' torque. But the point is that I keep up. Which is good enough for me because he hates mustangs. It pisses him off....seeing me right there in his rearview. I just leave it in 2nd the whole time. Through the (few) straights I am redlining with the pedal to the floor. Point is my car gets driven REALLY hard when on that road and I don't want my throttle cable failing or TB being stuck open on a narrow mountain road. And yes I have seen the throttle cable; it is very strong. Looks like braided steel. But STILL. I'd rather be safe than sorry

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 3:20:06 PM   
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In my 04 I was able to achieve WOT without the mod, but I did it because I wanted it closer to the brake for heal toe driving. I could not stand having to lift my foot off the floor and press it down on the brakes instead of just rotating it over to the brakes. While I was technically able to reach WOT, I occasionally had problems driving normally because my boot would get caught on the mats to the right of the pedal. This problem doesn't exist anymore.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 9:08:38 PM   
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a buddy of mine and i today checked out my car, and you get full open throttle before the gas pedal ever touches the floor... or more specifically the metal bracket which holds it in place. now the worry isn't snapping the cable... that's nearly impossible, now something which is possible and did happen on my friends buick (sh*tbox) is that the end piece which isn't actually a part of the cable, just stamped on, comes off, and then you loose ur throttle control.

now it was slightly hard for me to beliece cuz he drives an old buick... so i took a spare cable i had put one end in a vice and put the other end which would go on the gas pedal through a board and put about half my weight into it... and sure enough that end piece came right off.

now we did come up with a solution to that potential problem.. simply attach a piece of hard rubber or plastic to the back of the pedal so even if you do put the pedal to the floor, the stopper will prevent all that stress going right onto either end piece of the throttle cable.



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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 10:03:45 PM   
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i guess im really retarded cause i have no idea how to do this mod....and i really want to do it..

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/2/2006 10:23:45 PM   
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wait just figured it out ignore my post

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 9:28:58 AM   
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So the question is, is this mod worth doing? Does it help the response of the car any? Is there a chance of damaging the throttle cable? I am planning a road trip to Canada in 2 weeks and I dont want to chance ending up stranded alongside the freeway with a broken accelerator.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 10:41:42 AM   
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So the question is, is this mod worth doing? Does it help the response of the car any? Is there a chance of damaging the throttle cable? I am planning a road trip to Canada in 2 weeks and I dont want to chance ending up stranded alongside the freeway with a broken accelerator.


Ditto...except for the Canada part...lol

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 11:05:08 AM   
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The mod raises you gas pedal and will allow your TB to open all the way(if it doesn't already). To check, have someone depress your gas pedal all the way and see if you can manually turn the cam on your TB any farther. My '01 had about 1/16" play, which doesn't matter to me since, I'm not a racer. It doesn't add throttle responce. After the mod, your gas pedal won't go all the way to the floor when you're running wide open. If you're careful, you shouldn't have a problem with braking the cable. Don't force your pedal (common sence). I put in an 1 1/4" spacer and the pedal feels a little high, when I'm cruising in town. I'll probably try a shorter spacer.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 6:11:14 PM   
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has anyone done a pre and post mod dyno to see if there is more power from the mod or not? I would think that if you could open your tb more, there should be more power to be had? I am hoping (in vain probably) that my dyno numbers will pick up to where i think they should be. I have to get a header leak fixed, so i will dyno it after that and do the mod then dyno again. After i am done holding my breath i will post.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 7:14:58 PM   
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I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 7:17:15 PM   
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I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


you don't see how that would help to make more power? I'm not so sure that I didn't get WOT before, but I'm certain now. having the gas pedal 1.5 inches below the brake sucks.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/3/2006 9:00:04 PM   
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I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


Ok, Try getting to 40 with barely any throttle, then try it at WOT.
Anyway I did the mod just cause the pedal always on the floor was annoying now its right next to the brake pedal, also it takes less force to accelerate now, which I didnt see coming


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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/4/2006 8:59:27 AM   
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Just to play racers advocate, If I can achieve WOT with out the mod, I would leave it as is. First, I am 6'6", any extra leg room is an advantage. Now lets look at it from another angle. Every one says that they hate having to move their foot to go from gas to brake. What about the other way around? Who has to move their foot farther when taking off? the guy whos gas pedal is low? or the guy who moved it out?
On a side note, Most people I know, when racing, do not rest their foot completely on the floor. It is a light touch to teh floor to fight tiring your leg out, but for the most part, there is an actual leg movement when transitioning from gas to brake and back.
Try this, sit at your desk, tap your foot left and right with out moving your leg see how fast you can do it. Then try the same movement except use your leg. Maybe it is easier for me because I play drums but it feels more natural using your leg than just your foot.

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RE: Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix - 5/4/2006 11:07:32 AM   
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I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


you don't see how that would help to make more power? I'm not so sure that I didn't get WOT before, but I'm certain now. having the gas pedal 1.5 inches below the brake sucks.


What I meant was... and if I'm wrong, then explain it to me, but you are still producing the same horsepower at the same rpms yes? or no? I don't know. I'm not a mechanic, but I did this one the other day... I love it... it's great, I had a little scare, thought I might have to buy a new throttle cable, but it worked out in the end. Oh yeah... and get this... there is some dumba$$ on here who thinks I'm actually the girl in my avatar... I'm wondering if I should fuc* with him for a bit. What do you guys think?

~Alf

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