Full Throttle - 99-04 throttle cable adjustment/fix

Introduction

There is no better feeling then when you drop a gear and put your foot to the floor, the engine growls fiercely, your Stang jumps forward and you're gone, leaving everyone and everything in your dust. But did you know that you are not using your cars full potential?

For whatever reason, the 99-04 Mustang (more noticeably in the 99-00 models) have about an inch and a quarter of slack in the throttle cable. This causes your gas pedal to sit lower than you break and clutch pedals and renders you unable to achieve a wide open throttle. Luckily for us, this is a very easy fix. (The process took me about 10 minutes!)

In this article we will fix this "problem" by using a spacer and some fasteners where the throttle cable connects to the gas pedal to reduce the slack. This will allow you to achieve a wide open throttle and raise your gas pedal to about even height of the brake and clutch pedals.

What you will need

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/Jeff_erson/Throttle%20Cable%20Project/Parts.jpg

1" hollow nylon spacer or some stiff plastic tubing
2 small hose clamps (for testing/temporary use, zip ties work great!)
Utility Knife (Exacto Knife)
Flat head screwdriver

I went and bought a 1 foot length of stiff plastic tubing as it can be easily cut to suit and you have some extra just incase;). I ended up using about a length about one and a quarter inch (1 1/4") long to take up all the slack. The result is a very touchy gas pedal, the less slack taken up the more throttle play you will have. You may want to make a slight change to the length after you give this mod a try. Zip ties are useful because they are easy to put on and cut off, but I would use the hose clamps as a permanent solution for when you decide on a length because zip ties could slide/move.


What to do
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/Jeff_erson/Throttle%20Cable%20Project/FinishRight.jpg

First, make a slice along the length of one side of the spacer so you are able to slide it over the throttle cable. Next, squeeze yourself into the floor so you can see the top of your pedal, where the cable links to the pedal arm*. Lift the gas pedal, this should cause the slack in the cable to become very apparent. Now, slide the spacer over the cable. The spacer should now be butting up against the cable's end cap, the pedal arm and holding the cable out. Use you fasteners (whether you are using the zip ties or the hose clamps) and fasten one near each end of the spacer. Make sure everything is secure, and...

THAT'S IT!!!

* Alternatively, you can detach the throttle cable in the engine by pushing the plastic throttle body linkage forward then slide the cable out of its slot. This allows the cable drop about 8 inches at the gas pedal, where it is easier to work on. However, I prefer to work on the linkage while still attached as I am able to see how much slack is being taken up.


Your pedal should look about this height
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j170/Jeff_erson/Throttle%20Cable%20Project/Pedales2.jpg

Sit in your seat and rest your foot on the pedal, you should feel an immediate difference in height. Go for a spin, make sure you like the height and everything is good. If you used the zip ties you should now swap for the hose clamps because the ties could move/slide.

Enjoy!

If you have any questions you may PM me.

Jeff
(MFer - Jefferson)

Awesome write up Jefferson! Do I have your permission to make this an official Mustang Forums tech article? If so, it will earn you a contributor tag and you will be named as the author.
Chris [sm=smiley20.gif]

Go right ahead.

what is the inner diameter of the plastic tubing you bought? what is the plastic tubing supposed to be used for (so people can actually find it when they go to the store)?

Um, I dont remember the inner diameter of the tubing (I just eyed it in the store), I will check when I get home from work. Really, it just has to be smaller then then the cap on the cable.

I bought tubing in the plumbing section of a hardware store. But like I said, I find out tonight and post it.

i am doing this THIS weekend....thanks man!.....i've always hated how low the accelerator sits in comparison to the break pedal...kinda strains your leg having to move it back 4 inches or so to hit the brake pedal.....i have noticed that when i floor it there is extra play if you press down as far as it can go....kinda feels like a popping sound once you reach the WOT point....i'm guessing because the cable's extra slack is kinking up or something?...well...glad theres a fix now...thanks again!

No problem. Just be cautious when you first hit the pedal, I was backing out of the shop we have in our back yard and when I tapped the gas like I used to, I tore up a ton of grass. :D

yeah i really want to do this, but i don't have a plastic thing lying around. might need to hit up Ace.

Yeah, great post. Thanx. Later.
S W

I like to one foot section of tubing because if I made a mistake or cut the piece to short, I could cut another. I think it cost me like 49 cents. Just make sure its fairly rigid so it doesnt crush under pressure.

Woah(Keanu style)....dude.....dude that TOTALLY made a difference. I am SO gonna go poor from gas spendages now. Nevermind nearly being pulled over for an..err..accidental powerslide.

I know, it's crazy to think that all that extra go was hiding and no one really did much about it!

Will this work on a 95?

I'm not sure as I've never looked at the SN95 for this project. What you wanna do is look at gas pedal and see if it sits lower then the brake pedal, if so, giver.

What you might want to do is have someone push and hold the pedal all the way to the floor (while the car is off) and see how much, if any, travel is left on the throttle body linkage, that should give you a good idea if there is any slack. If it is very minor I would leave it, but its up to you. the inch and a quarter on the 99-00 is a hell of alot of slack!

does this work on a 97 stang too?

ORIGINAL: blue_stang

does this work on a 97 stang too?


what'd he JUST say..........?:eek:

but what aboot a 96?

thanks man..I'm going to try it out over the weekend. Great post by-the-way!

Thanks! Glad to help.

didja ever find out the inner dia. of that tubing?

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

didja ever find out the inner dia. of that tubing?


Nope, forgot.

Im making a note of it and Ill post tonight when I get home. The tubing I had was actually a bit bit so I cut a small section as opposed to making a slice. If you look in the picture you can see that the tubing overlaps a bit. But like I said I will find out the proper inner diameter for you tonight.

no worries, do you have an estimate or a range? I think i'll stop by the hardware store on the way home and pickup stuff to do that. I'd rather buy 3-4 sizes than have to go back again.

btw, your writeup is 8 billion times easier to read and understand than any of the other write ups for this mod. good pics too.

you can do this on Autos too rite?

ORIGINAL: zarins04stang

you can do this on Autos too rite?


Mine is an auto ;)

Get to work.

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

no worries, do you have an estimate or a range? I think i'll stop by the hardware store on the way home and pickup stuff to do that. I'd rather buy 3-4 sizes than have to go back again.

btw, your writeup is 8 billion times easier to read and understand than any of the other write ups for this mod. good pics too.


Thanks alot Red! I hope to do some more for the forum when I decide what my next mods are. As far as the pics go...I took about eleventy billion cause I was the flash was giving off tons of glare and there were a number of blurry ones. What can I say I'm no photographer.

Um, I would say that you would be very safe with an inner diameter of 1/4", I think 1/2 inch inner is too big, so somewhere in between. The smaller the inner diameter the better, all it has to be able to fit is a thin cable. If you just crawl down there and look it will give you a very good idea of what you need.

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

didja ever find out the inner dia. of that tubing?


went to my OSH today and got a couple nylon spacers unless i screw up...the dimensions are 1/2" x .194" x 1"....so i'm guessing the inner diameter of mine is about 2/10s of an inch...i just eyeballed it with the backstop of the throttle cable and my extra slack just happened to be about an inch...only thing is the smallest hose clamps they had only went down to 5/8" and the overall diameter of my spacer (which was the BIGgest they had) is 1/2" so the clamp wouldnt do anything...thinking about just using the zip ties...the spacer is pretty hard though so i dont think it will get crushed...

yea i love this mod. i did it a while ago and the few people who have driven my car sinse then always freak me out because the car jerks forward real bad when they hit it and dont mean to give it that much gas. most of them are in awe after that.

I did this mod to my car. I dunno if the gas pedal height is the same, so the spacer lenght might vary. I got a nylon spacer, about 3/4 of an inch long, from the elctronics parts store (they are usaed for mounting circuit boards). It's about 1/4" outer diameter, 1/8" hole. I took one end of the spacer and bored out the middle with an xacto knife until it would fit over the knob on the end of the gas pedal so the spacer would be flush against the flat stop on the end. I took one side, and cut out the slit with a razor (you can use a bike brake cable to make sure your slit is wide enouhg to fit over the cable without having to get into the car to check). I used one of these (1/4" i.d.) and nut/bolt/lock washer combo to secure it: http://www.picocanada.com/catalogue/7314-7329.asp
or
http://www.wmbs.hdweb.com/item.html?itemid=421573148

the one I used if jt&t products (jttproducts.com) part # 4464F, but I couldn't find the link anywhere for it.

10-32 x 1/2" nut/bolt combo was perfect for me.

great post im going to go by the hardware store tomorow and do this when i get home.

hey thanks for this tutorial , thats what I needed and now I found out I can fix it :)

why dont you just pull the slack from the TB, thats what i did for my car, and it did the same exact thing:eek:

how did you get the slack up from the TB, because its a pain to get to the top of the pedal in mine?

hey i didnt get a chance to do it as planned this weekend because of a wedding....other than opening the TB more and wasting more gas....is there any negative effects this mod could have on the car? like confusing the ECU and/or other sensors?

i would doubt that, seeing as it has really nothing to do with the computer.

PS i just did the mod and it was a pain, but i test drove it and i think im going to keep it :) thx

ORIGINAL: ts91stang

how did you get the slack up from the TB, because its a pain to get to the top of the pedal in mine?


uh loosen the plastic clamp the holds the tension and pull the cable and re-engage the clamp... kinda self explanatory.

I did this mod this weekend. Cool. Thanks for the instructions. Later.
S W

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I used a a 1/4" fuel line that I got from advance (for free since all I wanted was about an inch, he gave me about 3) and some hose clamps like in the original post.

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uh loosen the plastic clamp the holds the tension and pull the cable and re-engage the clamp... kinda self explanatory.

nothing on mine moves, im probobly just overlooking something simple but ill just try and get to the pedal.

I just did this mod on my 02 GT, it works great... you actually notice it too, it gives the engine fuel and air immediatly instead of a split second wait. I had an idea though that would be easier than using tubing... there are little cable clamps on bicycle brakes... if you put one on the cable right above the pedal it would work the same way, and be a whole lot easier to put on. I'll look around and see if I can do it then I'll post pictures if I can.

~Alf

something like this... only I've got to find one that I can slide onto the cable.
http://www.scooterworks.com/images/Product_Images/std/s%2015510.jpg

edit:

or this

http://www.procellightning.com.au/products/rod_to_cable_clamp_g.jpg
http://parts4karts.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/HWTCCAFAM.jpg

you can go to cap or auto zone and ask them for a cable stop... they come in packs of two and cost $2.49 the get a tube of locktite and ur golden. They come in the kind that has the hole which u'll need to cut the factory stop off for. or a kind that slips on over the side and then tightens.

Just did this on my 1995 worked like a charm...thanks

This mod just raises the gas petal, it doesn't increase throttle responce. The throttle may seem touchy, that's just because, you're not used to the petal being so far away from the floor.

ORIGINAL: Jefferson

In this article we will fix this "problem" by using a spacer and some fasteners where the throttle cable connects to the gas pedal to reduce the slack. This will allow you to achieve a wide open throttle and raise your gas pedal to about even height of the brake and clutch pedals.


Jeff
(MFer - Jefferson)


Im not a mechanic, but has someone actually checked if u do indeed get full open throttle with this mod and not full open without it? What i was thinking is, if ford put everything where it was, wouldn't that mean it was measured out to an extent, so if before when u put ur pedal to the floor you would get full open, and now that it's 1.25 inches shorter if you slam ur gas pedal down, won't it put considerable strain on the throttle? I would just hate to be merging on the highway, and end up snapping my throttle cable and stalling.

Im not trying to argue with anyone, i just want to be 100% sure before i do anything like this.
Thanx guys,
Mike

ORIGINAL: laserred38

hey i didnt get a chance to do it as planned this weekend because of a wedding....other than opening the TB more and wasting more gas....is there any negative effects this mod could have on the car? like confusing the ECU and/or other sensors?


ORIGINAL: metal militia

Im not a mechanic, but has someone actually checked if u do indeed get full open throttle with this mod and not full open without it? What i was thinking is, if ford put everything where it was, wouldn't that mean it was measured out to an extent, so if before when u put ur pedal to the floor you would get full open, and now that it's 1.25 inches shorter if you slam ur gas pedal down, won't it put considerable strain on the throttle? I would just hate to be merging on the highway, and end up snapping my throttle cable and stalling.

Im not trying to argue with anyone, i just want to be 100% sure before i do anything like this.
Thanx guys,
Mike

Exactly...I think I'm going to go talk to my mechanic buddy at Ford first. See what he thinks. It seemed like a great idea at first, but I wonder if Ford would have either a) done this on purpose or b) let a mistake like this get out. "Jefferson"...you said this was most apparent on 99-00s. Have you seen any '01s and up that were "fixed" from the factory. I'm not saying we don't believe you. I just want to be sure I'm not going to screw up my only mode of transportation; I have a 120 mile commute every weekend so like Mike said I dont want to be stranded on the side of the road with a snapped throttle cable and who knows what else broken.

if you can snap that cable, you are he-man.

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

if you can snap that cable, you are he-man.


lol...you never know...if anyone knows the NorCal bay area and Redwood Road in Oakland. I go up there maybe once every couple of weeks with my roommate who has a 4Cyl Auto Tiburon. I let him lead because I don't know the road like he does because he goes like 3x a week. And you KNOW there is NO way I'm letting a Tiburon pull away from me. Basically it is a Touge battle. For the non-JDM croud here (which is like 99.5%) Touge literally means curvy road in Japanese. Initial D style, two cars on a mountain road, the one in the lead tries to open a gap between the follower (cat and mouse kinda). If he does he wins the run. If the follower stays on his tail the whole time, he wins. Then you switch positions at the top of the hill and go down. His car handles 1000x better than mine and he has that Shiftronic feature (plus intake, exhaust, front and rear strut tower braces, and he is getting coilovers this weekend). The only way I keep up is with our cars' torque. But the point is that I keep up. Which is good enough for me because he hates mustangs. It pisses him off....seeing me right there in his rearview. I just leave it in 2nd the whole time. Through the (few) straights I am redlining with the pedal to the floor. Point is my car gets driven REALLY hard when on that road and I don't want my throttle cable failing or TB being stuck open on a narrow mountain road. And yes I have seen the throttle cable; it is very strong. Looks like braided steel. But STILL. I'd rather be safe than sorry

In my 04 I was able to achieve WOT without the mod, but I did it because I wanted it closer to the brake for heal toe driving. I could not stand having to lift my foot off the floor and press it down on the brakes instead of just rotating it over to the brakes. While I was technically able to reach WOT, I occasionally had problems driving normally because my boot would get caught on the mats to the right of the pedal. This problem doesn't exist anymore.

a buddy of mine and i today checked out my car, and you get full open throttle before the gas pedal ever touches the floor... or more specifically the metal bracket which holds it in place. now the worry isn't snapping the cable... that's nearly impossible, now something which is possible and did happen on my friends buick (sh*tbox) is that the end piece which isn't actually a part of the cable, just stamped on, comes off, and then you loose ur throttle control.

now it was slightly hard for me to beliece cuz he drives an old buick... so i took a spare cable i had put one end in a vice and put the other end which would go on the gas pedal through a board and put about half my weight into it... and sure enough that end piece came right off.

now we did come up with a solution to that potential problem.. simply attach a piece of hard rubber or plastic to the back of the pedal so even if you do put the pedal to the floor, the stopper will prevent all that stress going right onto either end piece of the throttle cable.

i guess im really retarded cause i have no idea how to do this mod....and i really want to do it..

wait just figured it out ignore my post

So the question is, is this mod worth doing? Does it help the response of the car any? Is there a chance of damaging the throttle cable? I am planning a road trip to Canada in 2 weeks and I dont want to chance ending up stranded alongside the freeway with a broken accelerator.

ORIGINAL: Danbert

So the question is, is this mod worth doing? Does it help the response of the car any? Is there a chance of damaging the throttle cable? I am planning a road trip to Canada in 2 weeks and I dont want to chance ending up stranded alongside the freeway with a broken accelerator.


Ditto...except for the Canada part...lol

The mod raises you gas pedal and will allow your TB to open all the way(if it doesn't already). To check, have someone depress your gas pedal all the way and see if you can manually turn the cam on your TB any farther. My '01 had about 1/16" play, which doesn't matter to me since, I'm not a racer. It doesn't add throttle responce. After the mod, your gas pedal won't go all the way to the floor when you're running wide open. If you're careful, you shouldn't have a problem with braking the cable. Don't force your pedal (common sence). I put in an 1 1/4" spacer and the pedal feels a little high, when I'm cruising in town. I'll probably try a shorter spacer.

has anyone done a pre and post mod dyno to see if there is more power from the mod or not? I would think that if you could open your tb more, there should be more power to be had? I am hoping (in vain probably) that my dyno numbers will pick up to where i think they should be. I have to get a header leak fixed, so i will dyno it after that and do the mod then dyno again. After i am done holding my breath i will post.

I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


you don't see how that would help to make more power? :eek: I'm not so sure that I didn't get WOT before, but I'm certain now. having the gas pedal 1.5 inches below the brake sucks.

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


Ok, Try getting to 40 with barely any throttle, then try it at WOT.
Anyway I did the mod just cause the pedal always on the floor was annoying now its right next to the brake pedal, also it takes less force to accelerate now, which I didnt see coming

Just to play racers advocate, If I can achieve WOT with out the mod, I would leave it as is. First, I am 6'6", any extra leg room is an advantage. Now lets look at it from another angle. Every one says that they hate having to move their foot to go from gas to brake. What about the other way around? Who has to move their foot farther when taking off? the guy whos gas pedal is low? or the guy who moved it out?
On a side note, Most people I know, when racing, do not rest their foot completely on the floor. It is a light touch to teh floor to fight tiring your leg out, but for the most part, there is an actual leg movement when transitioning from gas to brake and back.
Try this, sit at your desk, tap your foot left and right with out moving your leg see how fast you can do it. Then try the same movement except use your leg. Maybe it is easier for me because I play drums but it feels more natural using your leg than just your foot.

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


you don't see how that would help to make more power? :eek: I'm not so sure that I didn't get WOT before, but I'm certain now. having the gas pedal 1.5 inches below the brake sucks.


What I meant was... and if I'm wrong, then explain it to me, but you are still producing the same horsepower at the same rpms yes? or no? I don't know. I'm not a mechanic, but I did this one the other day... I love it... it's great, I had a little scare, thought I might have to buy a new throttle cable, but it worked out in the end. Oh yeah... and get this... there is some dumba$$ on here who thinks I'm actually the girl in my avatar... I'm wondering if I should fuc* with him for a bit. What do you guys think?

~Alf

is that the guy who asked if you were her....and you said "ill tell my wife the compliment" or somethin??...that was actually kinda funny...he fell right into the trap...i dont think the admins/mods would like that much...maybe change your name to "that is my wife in my avatar ass holes"...just a thought lol

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

I can't see how doin this would make more power. I mean you're not really changing anything except being able to achieve WOT, and moving your pedal up.

~Alf


you don't see how that would help to make more power? :eek: I'm not so sure that I didn't get WOT before, but I'm certain now. having the gas pedal 1.5 inches below the brake sucks.


What I meant was... and if I'm wrong, then explain it to me, but you are still producing the same horsepower at the same rpms yes? or no? I don't know. I'm not a mechanic, but I did this one the other day... I love it... it's great, I had a little scare, thought I might have to buy a new throttle cable, but it worked out in the end. Oh yeah... and get this... there is some dumba$$ on here who thinks I'm actually the girl in my avatar... I'm wondering if I should fuc* with him for a bit. What do you guys think?

~Alf


Yes but the more you open the throttle the faster you use the power you have. Like our sixers go 0-60 in 7.5sec, but if you barely push the throttle 0-60 would take about a minute

You are getting the same power from teh same RPMs at the same throttle position. it is just a matter of getting to that position sooner by eliminating the slack in the cable. The only performance differance this mod will make is if you do not achieve WOT before the mod. It will only feel like a difference because you have muscle memory that tells you that you are getting power at a different gas pedal position.

Ahhh.... now I get it... that's kinda what I thought, but I guess I was a little off... Thanks for the info...

Laserred... no there is this new guy, who pm'd me... kinda humorous tho... I should probably let him know that he's hitting on a guy... but it's so damn funny...

ORIGINAL: mustang_01bullitt

hey i think you have the most beutifule eyes i have ever seen i like the color of your mustang too

~Alf

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

Ahhh.... now I get it... that's kinda what I thought, but I guess I was a little off... Thanks for the info...

Laserred... no there is this new guy, who pm'd me... kinda humorous tho... I should probably let him know that he's hitting on a guy... but it's so damn funny...

ORIGINAL: mustang_01bullitt

hey i think you have the most beutifule eyes i have ever seen i like the color of your mustang too

~Alf


ahahaha...wow...you can't even see her eyes in the pic...yea it sucks having a pretty spouse...lol...so many worthless men in the world...just beat his ass...i know you marines know all that tricky shiet...my cuz pulls it on me all the time...haha

No point in whooping his ass, it doesn't bother me, I mean, I know she's hot. It's more funny than anything. I'm used to guys hitting on her, but she's a good girl, I keep tabs on her.

~Alf

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

No point in whooping his ass, it doesn't bother me, I mean, I know she's hot. It's more funny than anything. I'm used to guys hitting on her, but she's a good girl, I keep tabs on her.

~Alf


hehe...ditto for me...so is anyone going to tell us the ill-effects of this mod or what?...my leg is really getting tired from moving back and forth from gas to brake....i really would like them to be the same height....not too worried about the WOT.....i just want them the same height so i dont have to strain my leg

using the spacer is fine, just don't cut the cable, cuz getting a new stop on (permenantly) is a bitch...[:@]

~Alf

ORIGINAL: laserred38

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

No point in whooping his ass, it doesn't bother me, I mean, I know she's hot. It's more funny than anything. I'm used to guys hitting on her, but she's a good girl, I keep tabs on her.

~Alf


hehe...ditto for me...so is anyone going to tell us the ill-effects of this mod or what?...my leg is really getting tired from moving back and forth from gas to brake....i really would like them to be the same height....not too worried about the WOT.....i just want them the same height so i dont have to strain my leg


there are no ill effects. stop being a pussy and do it!

ORIGINAL: redass02gt

ORIGINAL: laserred38

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

No point in whooping his ass, it doesn't bother me, I mean, I know she's hot. It's more funny than anything. I'm used to guys hitting on her, but she's a good girl, I keep tabs on her.

~Alf


hehe...ditto for me...so is anyone going to tell us the ill-effects of this mod or what?...my leg is really getting tired from moving back and forth from gas to brake....i really would like them to be the same height....not too worried about the WOT.....i just want them the same height so i dont have to strain my leg


there are no ill effects. stop being a pussy and do it!


haha..hey hey..potty mouth

ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

using the spacer is fine, just don't cut the cable, cuz getting a new stop on (permenantly) is a bitch...[:@]

~Alf



Why would someone cut the cable

hehe... yeah... we're not gonna talk about it.

ORIGINAL: ByPopularDemand


ORIGINAL: djdalfaro

using the spacer is fine, just don't cut the cable, cuz getting a new stop on (permenantly) is a bitch...[:@]

~Alf



Why would someone cut the cable



to kill you. except then they'd be an idiot cause they cut the gas and you'd never crash. maybe to make you late fer sumthin'.

Hahaha late hahahaaaa.

Sorry, I havn't been around to awnser questions (I was in the Dominican [8D]) but it looks like you guys have made some good points.

I don't know quite what to say about the possible ill effects of this mod, what I can come up with is this....

If you are worried about the end cap comming off you may want to get a spacer that clamps onto the cable as opposed to something that rests against the cap. As far as the health of the cable goes, just remember, everything in moderation. If you are crazy with your car and stomp it hard to the floor where ever you go, the cable is going to be the least of your worries. Thats not to say that you cant ever, just treat you Stang with respect and She'll look after you.

Jeff

I just did the mod and it works good. By the way you can find the tubing in the plumbing section of depot or lowes.

Does this slack in the cable occur in the 98' GT's at all.

J

Sorry for taking so long, forgot this was here.

Anyway, I' really not sure, give your pedals a look and see if your gas pedal hangs lower than your brake pedal. Then also check if I can be lifted at all. Now that being said I havn't heard of this on Sn95s other than the "NewEdge" so please post you findings here.


Thx

I did this today on my 00gt and it feels a lot better for them being at the same height. I wear boots during most of the time and sometimes if I'm not careful it can get caught behind the brake so now it's all good.

I got 1/4" tubing at home depot in the plumbing section (took me the longest to find this than actually doing the mod). It's basically clear tubing, with some braiding in it, really stiff, works well.

When I put it on and went for a ride to get used to it I hit the gas too hard and the tubing came off, but this was probably because I only had 1 zip tie on at first. Once I corrected that problem it ran beautifully. Even if it doesn't change performance, it's more comfortable and safer for me this way.

Good stuff, glad to hear it worked out!

Glad I found this cuz its been pissing me off for a while, the 04's gas seems like its only an inch off the floor, I'll def. try this tom. morning...

i just went to the store and bought the necessary supplies 10 minutes after reading this. I have yet to put them on but I will be doing the mod later this afternoon.

Let us know how it goes.

Just performed this mod. As someone noted, it took longer to find the pieces at Lowes than it did to install them.

All I can say is WOW - what a difference!

I went conservative with only about a 3/4 " piece of tube, but the diff in throttle response was unbelievable!

By the way, I left the zip ties on rather than putting on the hose clamps - has anyone had any problems with this???

Thanks for posting this mod!

i dont understand where you guys are putting this

Vertical - I did the same with the zip ties, no problems to date.

ORIGINAL: cisurfer

i dont understand where you guys are putting this


Ok, check it out, dude. At the end of your throttle cable, there's a stud/stop/something securing the end of the cable to the top of your actual gas pedal. Put your finger on that and lift UP on your gas pedal. Feel that space on the cable between that stopper and the top of the gas pedal? That's where the spacer goes. Got it?

o ok i see now thanks

I just did this little mod on my 97 and I find it to be ok, but i'm not too sure if i like it better or not. I'm pretty sure on mine that I was achieving WOT before doing this but it definitely seems more touchie but not in throttle response. I listen to my exhaust and you can tell it doesnt make it run any better it just allows you to give it gas quicker.

Anyways, does anyone know a good way to get those zip ties off that small cable when they are so damn tight?

CLICK ME!! (http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/ctips.htm)
That one is towards the middle of the page

the like the painting of the dash silver. Ive seen those trim packages and they are like 150 bucks but i think they mite be a little bit better cause you can removed them andi think they are real metal

how big in outer diameter should the nylon spacer be?

ORIGINAL: 99blackout

how big in outer diameter should the nylon spacer be?


get under the dash and look at the top of your gas pedal, there's a hole with a cable running through it, and the cable has a flange on the end that prevents the cable from falling out of the hole. you need something that will hold between the flange and the pedal. it'll give you an idea what you need if you look at it.

Hey, I just did this tweak today. I got a 1in Nylon spacer with a ID big enough for the end cap and it fit so nice once I got the ****er cut to put it on. The cutting was the worst for me. I hack sawed it, and then sanded it wider because a razor did nothin', hah. But after that, smooth sailing. I put it on, but a hose clamp on it, and took her out for a spin. Needless to say, I can't believe they did that to the pedal in the 99-00.

I have a 99 3.8L V6, and I loved this tweak, very awesome.

where the hell did u find a hose clamp to fit?

ORIGINAL: africkanV6

where the hell did u find a hose clamp to fit?



ACE Hardware, of course! =D I think it was their smallest one too.

and it fit on there tightly? what was the outer diameter of the spacer?

DId this couple weeks ago..lol. Guy at the auto store gave me the hose from teh scrap bin, all I bought was the clamps, which I only ended up using one of. Ended up going with the ties. Why? Well, I'm a big fella (285) and fitting under the dash was not so much an issue but trying to get both hands up there to hold the clamp while I tightened it was becoming a chore. Especially since everytime I moved the damn electric seat would move forward and pin me..LOL.

It's not quite even with the brake, but closer. THink it slipped a little. Some day I'll revisit it and adjust it and get the clamps on. But it definitely made a difference. Went to take off right after I did it and scared the hell out of the neighbors....oops.

HAHAHA, My seat kept on doing the same thing. At one point I wasn't sure how I'd get out.:D

ORIGINAL: africkanV6

and it fit on there tightly? what was the outer diameter of the spacer?


Mmm can't remember. Nearly the same as the diameter of their smallest hose clamp when I bought it (so almost all the way open).

ORIGINAL: sullise
But it definitely made a difference. Went to take off right after I did it and scared the hell out of the neighbors....oops.


Ah haha. Nice.

WOT sounds so much nicer than half WOT lol...if that makes sense

has anyone done this on a 98 yet?

ORIGINAL: SVTCobra_98

has anyone done this on a 98 yet?


I did it on a 96 and it worked just fine.

Did this on a 2000 today. I can tell a big difference in throttle response personally, not from the car, but because when i let off to shift, and hit it again, its less distance to go with my foot.. and like stated before.. i dont get my foot stuck behind the brake no more. Anyway.. it's not gonna give you anymore performance then you already had, it just levels everything off and makes it look nice. I will say I noticed it's VERY touchy.. i took ALL of the slack out.. but i like it.

i was thinking about this for a while. im so glad another stang owner has come out and said it. Forget what my buddy said about the amount of gas when u step on it. Im gonna do it tomorrow after school.

i did this about a month ago and i noticed a huge difference when i put it to the floor. now i know what everyone was talking about when they say they peel out accidently when they are first learning how to drive thier stang.

I was thinking about doing it then I`m affraid I might fu*ck up somethin lol

its pretty hard to **** up. honestly

Ok mine looks different and its weird. Here are two pics showin and I think I circled the right part??
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2984/s5030170yf7.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/346/s5030171nt6.jpg

My gas pedal is too loose!



I`m lost:eek:

yupp thats right...the cable that you see there needs to have the spacer in it exactly how you have it right in that pic

exactly silvrstang.. put a space in that gap.. anything will work really. just clamp or ziptie it on there really good.

i used thick rubber washers for mine... i just took snips and cut the edges so they would slide on. its worked for about a year now.

this also helps top speed.. before the pedal went to the floor, but now the throttle does.

thanks guys,doin the mod today i`ll let u know how it turns out;)

subbing so I can find this later

i did it today, man is it sweet, even though it may not improve hp, it sure feels a heck of a lot better, it sorta feels brand new. I love it.:D

LoL so i just did the mod and took me an ****in hour to do it because the naylon clamps kept sliding out when I hit the throttle, i found 1 1/2 inch ones and couldnt find the 1 and 1 1/4 lol. So I took a plastic tube that I found in my garage and clamped it with plastic clamps and plus secured it with zip ties. Mods really good because it gives u much quicker throttle response and nicer acceleration since the pedal is almost even with the brake. Thanks for your help. Its not all that great but worth it because I did couple of donuts with my car lol do to quicker response of the throttle [8D]

Heres a cellphone pic I took!!

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7365/getattachmentaspxbl6.jpg

nice cell pic hah.

not really throttle response from you car.. jus your body reacting quicker to the pedal due to the muscle memory in your leg telling u the pedal starts lower.. once u get used to it it'll prolly feel like normal.. but hey.. for now.. you can burn em pretty quick lol.

lol yeah[8D]

i have also been told to cut the carpet in a small square at the top right corner to allow the pedal to completely hit the floor. It helped me , good report by the way i am going to try this when i have some spare time

I finally did this small project today. And, I dont know about you, but a person with 44" shoulders does NOT belong in that area. If I wasnt flexible enough, I would have had to call my mom and tell her that my seat has crammed me, lol

And, I was not able to get any clamps tighten. I just could not do it so, right now, it is held on by 2 zip ties. Not to mention, I lost both of the clamps that I bought too.

I've had the zip ties on there for a year and a half...still works great for me.

Hey this kicked AZZ. I have an '04 and was able to do it with some heavy duty wire ties only.
What a diff in pedal response .I was actually happy as hell after this.

Thanks

I just did it on my '97, yesterday. Response is pretty sweet[>:], its like a hair trigger now

Figured I would refresh this post because it was so damn good! :)

Did it with my wifes 96' V6 with an 00' Spedo cable and 00' V6 engine swap.
The car isnt running yet cause I still need to get the VMP tuner but I cant wait to see what its like!

i JUST perfected my pedal the other day..i LOVE it now, it gets to full throttle much faster and its a lot more responsive...I LOVE JEFFERSON!!!!![sm=Awwww.gif]

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how much of a difference will this make in an 03?

I just did this mod and I'm pleased with the results, looks like I can finally heel toe. Took a while though because my shoulders are too broad and I couldn't get comfortable under the steering wheel. Tightening the clamps was a pain, but I got it after like15 minutes. Thanks Jefferson for the mod.

ORIGINAL: hpwrestler220

i JUST perfected my pedal the other day..i LOVE it now, it gets to full throttle much faster and its a lot more responsive...I LOVE JEFFERSON!!!!![sm=Awwww.gif]


Um...thanks?[&:]

Mattman, I did it on my 03 Auto and it made a huge difference! With a little power braking, you'll spin all the way through 1st, or at least slide a little into 2nd. Prolly depends on the road condition too, but it's free and you'll definitely feel it.

ORIGINAL: hpwrestler220

i JUST perfected my pedal the other day..i LOVE it now, it gets to full throttle much faster and its a lot more responsive...I LOVE JEFFERSON!!!!![sm=Awwww.gif]


You wanna put your cock away now man.

I just did this. Worked great, but the tubing I used was so stiff that it was a bit of a pain sliding it onto the cable.

I used 3/8 inch plumbing tubing and zip ties. [sm=icon_cheers.gif]

ORIGINAL: BleedinBlue

I just did this. Worked great, but the tubing I used was so stiff that it was a bit of a pain sliding it onto the cable.

I used 3/8 inch plumbing tubing and zip ties. [sm=icon_cheers.gif]



I hate when my tubing is that stiff :eek:

Guys, I just did this mod 20 minutes ago. Wow, it's like night and day. I spun out reversing out of my drive way. lol. I strongly advise doing this. It only costs about 3 bucks. I used a 1/4 inch rubber gas line and (2) 1/2 inch clamps. That's it. It took me and a way taller friend of mine about 20 minutes to do it. I got up under there and he held the gas pedal back so it'd be a little easier. Very very awesome mod. I strongly recommend it. Awesome throttle response! :D

I'm happy in my pants now! :D :D :D [8D]

Arent you still getting the same power as before? It just feels faster because your foot is use to pressing at the floor...and how did anyone fit under the wheel. I can never find the right position:D:D

Im doin this as soon as i get my car back!

ORIGINAL: HornyHornyHippo

Im doin this as soon as i get my car back!
wheres the car?! did u get ur procharger on or is that where ur car is!!!!

i did it 3 days ago and its a great cheap and a hard to do at times mod. cost me 2$lol

Winner99, of course I'm getting the same power because it's not a power mod. But, the throttle response is different because the slack is taken out. It's a great mod :)

anybody do this on a fox? I was under there but couldnt see the top of the pedal, theres a plate blocking everything. Im thinking I have to remove the center console

will this work on a 2002 gt?

I don't know if the slack is different on the GT, if you gas pedal is low they I would assume yes.

thank you for this article! i didn't even notice the problem until i happened across this write up! ty ty !

the plastic hose i used was too weak, even after i double stacked it, so i had to get a 3rd hose clamp to put in the middle, and now it is perfect. total cost to fix: $2.70 and a few mins work.

double checked my 04 throttle body position with the pedal to the floor with out the mod, butterfly is fully open . Only change to mine this mod will make is to raise the pedal. I checked it after the mod, pedal is alot higher but when pressed to WOT i'm putting all the bind on the cable . The pedal isnt touching the carpet anymore at WOT. I'll either adjust a pedal stop to save my cable from breaking or put it back like it was, no need to risk it breaking the cable with my lead foot.

I just did this on my 02 GT and used abouta 5/8" long spacer held on with 1 hose clamp. I like the pedal position way better now. It took up about 3/4 of the slack in the cable if I went anymore the gas pedal seemed too high.

Excellant free mod, my pedal is now ergonomically correct.

Okay gents, go out to your junk drawer in the kitchen and get that cheap bic pen someone gave you, take it apart and use that "nylon tube". Cut it one inch, you don't need it any longer than that, cut the slit, unhook the cable at the engine to let out the slack, slide it on and clamp it. Rehook the cable at the engine and your finished, total time is about 10 minutes and cost is nothing if you use the zip ties you already have laying around. I wouldn't bother with hose clamps, I mean after all what is there to worry about the zips slipping, you've already removed the slack so there is no where for them to slip of to.Besides if your still worried use three or four of them.

ORIGINAL: drdetroit58

Okay gents, go out to your junk drawer in the kitchen and get that cheap bic pen someone gave you, take it apart and use that "nylon tube". Cut it one inch, you don't need it any longer than that, cut the slit, unhook the cable at the engine to let out the slack, slide it on and clamp it. Rehook the cable at the engine and your finished, total time is about 10 minutes and cost is nothing if you use the zip ties you already have laying around. I wouldn't bother with hose clamps, I mean after all what is there to worry about the zips slipping, you've already removed the slack so there is no where for them to slip of to.Besides if your still worried use three or four of them.


feel like adding any pics of the engine what youre exactly talking about?

ORIGINAL: FBCBEER

ORIGINAL: drdetroit58

Okay gents, go out to your junk drawer in the kitchen and get that cheap bic pen someone gave you, take it apart and use that "nylon tube". Cut it one inch, you don't need it any longer than that, cut the slit, unhook the cable at the engine to let out the slack, slide it on and clamp it. Rehook the cable at the engine and your finished, total time is about 10 minutes and cost is nothing if you use the zip ties you already have laying around. I wouldn't bother with hose clamps, I mean after all what is there to worry about the zips slipping, you've already removed the slack so there is no where for them to slip of to.Besides if your still worried use three or four of them.


feel like adding any pics of the engine what youre exactly talking about?






I know what is he talking about .[sm=dontgetit.gif]

I did this and i guess i sort of botched the first install, it works great but i looked down there and the tubing is slipping... will fix tomorrow. I read that a clamp of some sort could be used instead of a spacer to prevent any chance of that endcap popping off... any idea what to use?

I did it a while ago...
Loved the way it drove...
But I had to use zip ties cause I couldn't tighten the screws in the clamps...
Not enough room...
Zip ties worked...
For a little while...
Now it's just about back to normal...
How the hell did ya'll tighten the clamps?
Small hands or somethin?

-Cooper

ORIGINAL: coop7

I did it a while ago...
Loved the way it drove...
But I had to use zip ties cause I couldn't tighten the screws in the clamps...
Not enough room...
Zip ties worked...
For a little while...
Now it's just about back to normal...
How the hell did ya'll tighten the clamps?
Small hands or somethin?

-Cooper


The clamps have a spot for a flathead screwdriver to be used... but I didn't use the clamps either... didn't wanna mess with it in those cramped quarters. I re-did it today with some tubing that I trimmed to a smaller diameter, and with 3 zip ties it was stiff and works great... I can try to post some pics later. This place seems a little more involved than the 3.8mustang.com forums. [sm=smiley20.gif]

This was just what the doc ordered!My biggest complaintabout my carhad been how "soft" the gas pedal seemed to be. I got some3/4 fuel line at Lowe's and some ties and had it on there in about 5 minutes. There wasa little over an inch of slack in mine b4 the mod.The difference was amazing. I didn't realize when I went to back it out of the driveway how much different the throttle response would be, and needless to say I found out quick!

Wow i did this to my 03 today w/o looking here first i did basically the same thing and wow what a difference does take a min to get used to the pedal placement. the 1" slack moved my pedal about 2 1\2" to 3" but it sits flush with the brake now. great for burnouts [:-]

As soon as I'm done with finals, I'm doing this. I just thought that the gas pedal was lame, never thought about fixing it. You make me so happy I just want to cry, but not really. Really great post. Thanks.

lol i must be small...but yeah dude this is an amazing improvement...and for the guy whos doesnt really get even with his brake pedal...try going back in there and do everything you did before, but pull on the throttle wire and it will actually come out a little more...atleast thats what i did with mine, and my gas pedal is a lil bit past the brake...but yes this was a great CHEAP mod...had both things just layin around...thanks Jefferson!

You may have not noticed, but there is a lot of slack built into your Mustang's accelerator pedal. To see how much, lift up on the accelerator pedal. You should be able to lift it by about 1 inch. For some reason, Ford made the accelerator pedal much deeper than the brake and clutch. This makes it extremely difficult if not impossible to do heel and toe driving. It also increases the odds that you are not achieving wide open throttle when you mash the pedal because the floor gets in the way.

A simple solution exists. You can take up the slack in the pedal by buying a 13 cent hollow nylon spacer - available at just about any hardware store. Also buy 2 small hose clamps.
http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/pedals/icons2.jpg
Photo of Gas Pedal linkage

How to install:

You will need a flashlight and a socket set with a screwdriver that accepts sockets on the end. You can alternatively use a large screwdriver but it is very difficult to reach with both arms under the dash while trying to tighten a hose clamp that you can barely get a hold of (watch out for cramps!!)

Unhook the throttle cable in the engine compartment by pushing the plastic throttle body linkage all the way forward then slide the cable out of its slot. This will allow the cable under the dash of your car to fall down about 8 inches where it is MUCH easier to work on.

Using a razor blade tool, cut a piece out of the side of the 1" nylon spacer. You will need to make the cut much wider at one end because the cable linkage has a metal stop attached to the end.

Fit the nylon spacer over the cable then slide both hose clamps over the spacer and tighten. It is much easier if you tighten the hose clamps so they fit almost flush over the nylon spacer before you put them on.

Tighten the hose clamps and that is it!
http://mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/pedals/icons1.JPG
Gas Pedal is now nearly even with the other pedals

Your accelerator pedal should now be about 1/2 inch lower than the brake pedal. Now wide open throttle does not interfere with the carpeting at all. - Dave

Note: This can also be done in other model year stangs, it was mentioned 99 - 04 because we noticed the pedal a little low.

Good call on this dude. Right after i read your post i went outside and cut some extra fuel line i had layin around and got it done in 5 minutes. its alot nicer having the pedals even. i hated that they werent even, id always get my foot snagged on the side of the brake pedal when racing.

i did mine w/ a pen body cut 1 inch and put a slit down the side a lil harder to install but cheaper cause no clamps were needed

thanks jefferson for this awesome post

i also used this post as a reference. im not a huge guy (about 170lbs), and getting down there is TIGHT. best thing i found to do i put your seat all the way back and recline it all the way back, so you are lying down on it with your feet up in the air, with your head by the pedals. its a tight squeeze, but this way, eveyrhting is in sight view.

i did this to my car today..i used the zip ties cause i couldnt get the clamps 2 tighten enough. but i really like how it is nice. thanks for the post

^^^^^^if you can fit down there, for you smaller guys with not so big shoulders, an batt. powered drill with a flathead attachment and a pair of pliers to hold the hose clamps in place work wonders to tighten the hose clamps real good. its a b*tch getting it to line up right and to get a good grip on everything, but once you got it locked in, a quick press of the trigger, and presto, you got it extra tight.

I've got a MUCH better way to do this. It took me about 2 minutes and 26 cents. I went to the hardware store and bought a spacer which basically looks like a macaroni noodle except straight and had the guy cut it vertically through one side with a hacksaw so there is a slit in it the width of the hacksaw blade, which is very thin. Then I took a small nail and wedged it in the crack hold it pryed open a little. I pulled the pedal out and slipped it around the cable asI pulled the nail out of the crack of the spacer at the same time and the spacer closed back around the cable. These spacers are very hard , similar to pvc so there are no zip ties/hose clamps/tape or worries because thiswill definatly not come off. Once you get yourself underneaththe steering wheel which is probably the hardest part, it takes about 20-30 seconds. I will try to post pictures later today.

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Wow just did this and man it's awesome! I love it man thanks so much! Just had the pieces laying around at work. Great and easy to follow write-up man.

Just did it using a nylon spacer, took 20 seconds.

I used two ferral nuts. Cut a slot in the side with my dremel, cut about 1/3 length off of one of the nuts, Slipped them both over the cable, crimped the hell out of them and it is good to go.

Feels must better and much more responsive. Great post.