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Today i raced a new GTI, it was modded (i know because i could hear the blow off valve). It was just a light to light race, and lets just say i "dropped it like it's hot"
"oh snap"
...for all you fogies who didnt understand the lingo, i won
(all quotes pulled from GTI commercials for those who didnt get it)
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Light to light i believe it from a dig we have such a tq advantage, but the new GTI is pretty quick mag times for it are right there with us, if it went farther i think he would've caught you.
Gotta laugh how import guys <mostly Honda, to be fair> almost never want to race from a dig, but rather a high roll, weak sauce.
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it could be modded, but if its only a blowoff, then its anywhere from the same hp, to losing hp, not a good mod lol. stock they are 7.1 to 60, and our autos are 6.9 for the auto. its a close race for sure
yeah... all the import guys only let ya know they want to race after a good roll off the line.... like they want to catch ya by surprise since you've just taken off casually. It's a different culture, eh?
Not all Honda/4cyls guys my friend, there was a guy in NY that went by the name of Frog and this dude before he sold his civic used walk Saleens, Porsche 911 Turbo, and many other bigger displacement vehicles from the dig. B18 civic with a snail pushing 22-24 psi of boost. Off the roll dont even think about it. As long as you have a nice set up an able to use ALS on that engine, then the race with a RWD car will be veryu interesting.
Say man nice kill by the way, good way to start the week!
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Not all Honda/4cyls guys my friend, there was a guy in NY that went by the name of Frog and this dude before he sold his civic used walk Saleens, Porsche 911 Turbo, and many other bigger displacement vehicles from the dig. B18 civic with a snail pushing 22-24 psi of boost. Off the roll dont even think about it. As long as you have a nice set up an able to use ALS on that engine, then the race with a RWD car will be veryu interesting.
Say man nice kill by the way, good way to start the week!
No doubt there are many many fast Civics out there, esp hatches...but my point is since they almost never have any torque , stockish/basic bolt-on imports usually want to go from a roll so they have an advantage, with a turbo is a different story since he's gonna have torque then. IMO though roll racing really isn't racing though.
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i strongly disagree with saying a bov is not a good mod. First of all it protects your turbo from reverse surging that can ruin your turbo. This comes from letting off the throttle. When you let off the throttle, the compressed air from the turbo has nowhere to go so it goes back into the turbo. This can either just slow down the compresser making you have to wait again to build to maximum boost, or it can jam the turbine blades and offset them ruining your turbo. Can you say costly replacement? although it does not increase hp, it will increase performance. Straightline performance will not change, but auto crossing and just track racing in general will increase because you will not have to build up the boost after every turn. That boost will still be built up a fair amount more than it would be without the bov. Although you wont feel a huge difference from a bov in a turbo car, it will be there and it will make your car at least a little more reliable.
oh and the whole imports dont wanna race from a dig thing...the new si can take us in the 1/4 fairly easily and since the rsx-s has almost exactly the same performance (it even has the same engine) those can take us also if our cars were to have equal drivers.
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oh and the whole imports dont wanna race from a dig thing...the new si can take us in the 1/4 fairly easily and since the rsx-s has almost exactly the same performance (it even has the same engine) those can take us also if our cars were to have equal drivers.
The new Si is right with the auto v6 in the 1/4th, and it doesn't have the same engine as the RSX-S. The RSX-S uses the k20z1 engine for 05-06, rated at 201 chp now <210 before>, the new Si uses the k20z3 rated at 197 chp. The k20z3 is more of a reworked k20a2 <02-04 RSX-S engine> which is rated at 193 chp now, 200 before.
The RSX-S performs better then the Si, not by alot but it has an edge.
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And imports don't want to race from a dig because they have no torque and most have much of their power in high RPM's, top end imports will pass us, from a roll they're increasing their own chances of winning.
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My friend has an SI Civic 06 and from experience i can tell you its not even a match. From a dig he cant even race me , from a roll its more of a race but I always end up 3-4 cars ahaed of him by fourth and my car is an auto. SO the guy that said that they can take us easily in the 1/4 is definately wrong.The civic has only run a best of 15.5 at 89 with a good honda driver behind the wheel , my friends best with hin driving is 15.9 at 89. I have posted this before several times, The new civic SI has nothing on us.
FWD is easy to manufacture. That's why there are so many of them, and as for tuner cars, the parts are in abundance and cheap too. The Honda and Nissan engines are about like Chevy smallblocks.
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My friend has an SI Civic 06 and from experience i can tell you its not even a match. From a dig he cant even race me , from a roll its more of a race but I always end up 3-4 cars ahaed of him by fourth and my car is an auto. SO the guy that said that they can take us easily in the 1/4 is definately wrong.The civic has only run a best of 15.5 at 89 with a good honda driver behind the wheel , my friends best with hin driving is 15.9 at 89. I have posted this before several times, The new civic SI has nothing on us.
I agree, people overrate the new Si...i beat one coming back from Blockbuster the other night. The thing people don't consider in manual vs auto, yes manual will be faster given even drivers, but manual times have a huge huge range due to driver skill, while auto will run consistent times constantly.
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FWD is cheaper to mass produce, easier to drive and well, cheaper again that's why companies mass produce FWD in econo cars like Civics and Sentras. Cheaper tuner car like the RSX-S, Si, SRT-4 and SE-R spec v get it because they're built on platforms already for FWD, again cheaper. The better tuner cars are RWD platforms though...the exception being the Eclipse GT, who knows what Mitsu was thinking there. A 263 chp/260 tq FWD car, what a great idea!
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FWD is easy to manufacture. That's why there are so many of them, and as for tuner cars, the parts are in abundance and cheap too. The Honda and Nissan engines are about like Chevy smallblocks.
Actually I believe you have that backwards. I understood that FWD is more expensive to manufacture than RWD because it's considerably more complicated.
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FWD is easy to manufacture. That's why there are so many of them, and as for tuner cars, the parts are in abundance and cheap too. The Honda and Nissan engines are about like Chevy smallblocks.
Actually I believe you have that backwards. I understood that FWD is more expensive to manufacture than RWD because it's considerably more complicated.
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