I went to my local Ford dealer last night looking at their new orange Mach 1 when a seemingly knowledge member of their staff started talking Mustang's with me. He informed me of 2 things that I find highly improbable:

-The 2005 Body Style Mustang will only be produced for 2 years.(He said this is for sure!)

-The in 2007 the Mustang to follow this radical body style will be an All Wheel Drive.

I search a lot of forums and I also try to find out anything I can, but I have never heard of an All Wheel Drive Mustang. The dealer swears by it though.

Anyone that has insight please let me know.

i heard about the AWD in motor trend a while ago...it was just an idea, because ford needed someone to compete with since the camaros were gone, so they were thinking about going after subaru's....all im gonna say is an AWD V8 would own everything

OMG YES! That would be amazing. You see how fast those four cylinder AWD's hook up, that would be ridiculous to have on a stang. Casper98 and I talked about that a coulpe years ago, like what it would take to build one but we def decided it would be way too much.

I would be willing to bet that if Ford did make an AWD Mustang, it would not be a V-8. That's just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
I would rather Ford come out with a killer AWD Focus to compete with the Subaru's, rather than change the Mustang to an AWD car. Leave the Mustang alone, and let it keep the V-8 rear drive only set-up. It's sold well for years, why mess with a good thing?

Cuase if it was AWD then I could maybe justify buying a new one as a winter car ;)

Cuase if it was AWD then I could maybe justify buying a new one as a winter car

You know, Ford already makes 4WD with V-8's. They're called F-150's, 250's and 350's. ;)

I agree. Mustang's are one of the few rear wheel drive sports cars left. The focus is already used as a Rally car, I think it is all wheel drive. They should use the Focus not the Mustang.

All wheel drive V8 & 300+ lb torque = a line of people at the dealer waiting for new transmissions.

Actually yea, an AWD focus would be nice. I'd buy that as a second car if they made one. I'd get a nice f-150 if I could afford it but I can't really.

I feel that they should leave the Mustang alone, because if they follow the trend to make it "All Wheel Drive", just to compete with Subaru, then it is only a matter of time before they make it Front Wheel Drive.

The current set up of a Front Engine Rear Wheel Drive American Sports car should live on. However, I do agree with the benefits of an All Wheel Drive car, it shouldn't be on a Mustang. Go buy a Jap Trap.

they will never make mustang fwd....making it awd would be genius...no more "i didnt get traction off the line" bull****

Of course it's easy to say that they will never make a Mustang Front Wheel Drive...but...

You may remember a Front Wheel drive hatch back that Ford released in the mid 90's...The Probe...this little bugger was suppose to replace Mustang!

Thank God it failed, but, nevertheless Ford tried to make the Mustang front wheel drive. Mess with the body all they want and tweak the suspension, but leave the front engine rear wheel drive alone...please...to whom it may concern.

sounds like that salesman was smokin crack,, i work at a Ford dealer and we have heard nothing of this,,and the people that teach new model training actually know because they actually get the info from the engineers. if the lincoln ls shows up with AWD then it si likely the stang could too,,but as far as the ditchin the body after 2 years that is crap too. why spend 25 years on the same platform to change 2 years after you get a new one.

Don't know about anyone else but I was just talking hypothetically, just saying it would be kinda cool to have one just for the traction and stuff. We def need to preserve the RWD V8's as they seem to keep dissapearing. Even if they tried to replace the stang with the probe that's not the same as making a FWD stang, I just can't see that happening, and if they did it wouldn't have a V8.

Even if they tried to replace the stang with the probe that's not the same as making a FWD stang, I just can't see that happening, and if they did it wouldn't have a V8.

What they tried to do was to convert the Mustang over to FWD, as that's what all the manufacturers were turning to at the time.
They were going to make the FWD version and still call it a Mustang, but with the letters letters from Mustang fans, Ford decided to rename the FWD "Mustang" to Probe so that they wouldn't waste all the time and money they put into it.
It's a good thing too they listened, because the Mustang really out-sold the Probe. Just goes to show what the performance crowd really wants. I'll bet the big wigs at Ford were glad they listened to the Mustang crowd.

BTW-I still cry whenever I think of how they replaced the Pinto with Escorts [:o] A Pinto was my 1st car ;)

hey guys, new to the site here. just got a stang a few months ago. v6 though, due to insurance. but anyways i was looking up what the probes looked like up in ebay..... and well did this guy waste his $$ or what? what an idiot, and the bigger idiot who buys it. :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6237&item=2474192051&rd=1

Hey, do any of you guys drive any SVOs or Turbo cpupe Thunderbirds? I just got ahold of a 93' LX convertible and I'm trying to decide whether to go with the V8 or to go with an SVO/Turbo coupe setup. I could really care less how loud my car is. I am thinking about practicality and everyday drivability. However, if I can't find any parts for a turbo four stang, then I'm gonna have to go with a V8. If any of you guys happen to know any good places in TX to get SVO components, then please let me know.

For practicality a turbo four will probably be better off and from what I've heard you can pick up turbo coupes cheap.

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I agree. Mustang's are one of the few rear wheel drive sports cars left. The focus is already used as a Rally car, I think it is all wheel drive. They should use the Focus not the Mustang.


The USDM Focus is only FWD...unless you take into account those few project Focus' thats been converted to RWD with an 03 cobra motor wedged into it.

The Focus Rally car is AWD, but again USDM Focus' are only FWD.

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BTW-I still cry whenever I think of how they replaced the Pinto with Escorts [:o] A Pinto was my 1st car ;)


Yeah but the Escort was an infinitely better car. ran from 82ish to 2004...Ford finally killed off the ZX2 this year.

If they ever did make a awd Mustang I would hope it would be a limited edition. They would be too damn expensive for the normal gear banger salary I think.

I think making an AWD Focus with maybe a V6 or something might be cool if they could fit it in there.

The 2005 has a lot of Jaguar engineering in it. Course they're doing a lot of AWD stuff to compete with the Japanese models. I wouldn't be surprized.

Personally, I'd be all over an AWD V8 like a jock on steroids!

Like an alcoholic to his beer!
Like a liberal to his Ralph Nader!
Like a Michael Jackson to a small, vulnerable child...ok I'll stop :(

Yea, but as was said before a big part of the stang is the rear wheel drive V8:D

ORIGINAL: VertStangGT86

Yea, but as was said before a big part of the stang is the rear wheel drive V8:D

with an awd stang, stangs would dominate everything man. no more "i spun of the line" bull****

I think they should keep the Mustang RWD.But,if they come out with a Mustang GT-R ,if that was AWD it would be kick-ass.But they should leave the V6,GT,Cobra,Saleen,and any other type of Mustang they come out with RWD.

ORIGINAL: nhdungeonracer

I would be willing to bet that if Ford did make an AWD Mustang, it would not be a V-8. That's just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
I would rather Ford come out with a killer AWD Focus to compete with the Subaru's, rather than change the Mustang to an AWD car. Leave the Mustang alone, and let it keep the V-8 rear drive only set-up. It's sold well for years, why mess with a good thing?


I agree completly!

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ORIGINAL: VertStangGT86

Yea, but as was said before a big part of the stang is the rear wheel drive V8:D

with an awd stang, stangs would dominate everything man. no more "i spun of the line" bull****



Sure they'd dominate the street, but what about the strip? DR's would OWN them.

ORIGINAL: sidewayz4.6

All wheel drive V8 & 300+ lb torque = a line of people at the dealer waiting for new transmissions.


the truest and wisest thing i've heard in a very long time. off the line power sucks balls at 80 mph. V8+~300+AWD= >20mpg. divide that by nearly $3.00 a gallon=stupid!

I dont think it would be a good idea AWD on mustangs, the mustangs r heavy anyways, with a AWD would be so heavy you would need a lot hp to be fast.

when u look at the new audis S4, they r like 400hp, V8 twin turbo AWD, cant beat a E46 M3 N/A I6 333hp RWD

Yeah that would be a great idea but then think about how expensive the mustang would be. It would go from 25K to 40+K. Still it would be a great idea....

bunch of regular cliff clavens we have here i see.

Doubt that Ford would try to make the Stang AWD, maybe come out with a turbo version that is or something like that.

Anywho, FWIW, people were saying that the RWD V8s are disappearing. I heard from a friend at Chrysler that they will definitely be coming out with the Charger next year. I suspect that will have a hemi and some cool styling.

Oh yeah, and he brought a Magnum for us to drive as well. I wasn't impressed. :eek:

I'm not a huge fan of the mangnum's look. I doubt you'd ever see a turbo stang, they'd do a focus before that any day.

I'm going to stick with my original thought and say they won't do it because they can't figure out how to not twist the trans out of it.

Damn dude....get bored?

:eek: Don't look for an AWD Mustang any time in the future .. if were it experiment with AWD it would probably go in a low volume car. Ie. bring back the Cougar with a HI PO V6 or the 3v V8.

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All wheel drive V8 & 300+ lb torque = a line of people at the dealer waiting for new transmissions.


how much torque do you think a twin turbo V6 300gt puts out and they're all wheel drive? hmmmmmmm

ORIGINAL: VertStangGT86

I'm not a huge fan of the mangnum's look. I doubt you'd ever see a turbo stang, they'd do a focus before that any day.



correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they do a turbo mustang in like the 80s or something? or maybe that was just a "modified" mustang I saw but it looked stock and said gt turbo on it...hmmmm

I'm so glad you said that. Having actually owned one of those. It required 2 transmissions in the 6 months that I owned it. And I really wasn't that hard on it.

Read up on those. They had HUGE trans problems.

The early 80's Mustang was a turbo 4. Called the SVO.

ORIGINAL: sidewayz4.6

I'm so glad you said that. Having actually owned one of those. It required 2 transmissions in the 6 months that I owned it. And I really wasn't that hard on it.

Read up on those. They had HUGE trans problems.



hmmm.....I have a bud with a 12.4 second eclipse AWD and its on the same tranny it had when he got it....must be the driver :D

Go ask any STi driver, they'll tell you the trannys suck. Your buddy is lucky to have a DSM with no problems yet. Welcome to a nightmare.

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I'm so glad you said that. Having actually owned one of those. It required 2 transmissions in the 6 months that I owned it. And I really wasn't that hard on it.

Read up on those. They had HUGE trans problems.



hmmm.....I have a bud with a 12.4 second eclipse AWD and its on the same tranny it had when he got it....must be the driver :D



A 3000GT weighs almost 4000 lbs. Has 3X the power that an Eclipse does. Can't really compare the two. And 98LS1 is correct. That dude is lucky to have no problems with a Mitsu tranny.

I agree!!!!!! People would be blowing up their trannys ALL the time. There is just too much torque for the AWD. The front axle wouldn't hold up long either!

I think they should keep the RWD. If people want AWD bad enough, they will do something about it instead of hope they make a car with it stock. For the price you would pay for a new mustang you could save that, wait a couple years then buy a used one & make an AWD setup for it. Like the mustangs now, Ford didn't make 1000hp mustangs, people put money they saved into it. I've seen some weird setups on cars, a v10 RWD crx, v12 VW beetle, twin turbo 800+ cid mustangs, & a v10 mustang. What would make you think YOU creating an AWD V8 mustang is out of the question?

damn this thread is old. Let's leave it at this Mustang=Front engine RWD, whatever ford does to other cars is their business, don't fuc* with my heritage

I agree, leave the Mustang alone. If Ford wants to compete with the WRX then bring the Rally Focus RS over here from Europe and have it tuned by SVT or Saleen.

I don't really know much about the effects of having AWD on the future stangs, but I'm glad they're not keeping this new 05 body style for long. I'm not sure if I like it.

I don't think the market for RWD V-8's is going anywhere anytime soon. The Camaro is gone for now... but, I hate to say, it will be back. We'd be crazy to think that it won't. I don't think we will be seeing any AWD Stangs anytime soon.

Fack…I hope not. Bad enough the new ’05 will be a porky +/- 3500 lbs. adding an awd system will bloat it up even more. I agree that the rwd platform should be left alone and I believe it it’s a key to the Mustang’s success.

Ford should bring the “real” Focus from Europe for us to enjoy….and the awd with it. The new Five-hundred will have an available awd system.

rut ro...dude those r some bad rides u got in ur sig there...whats ur wrx run in th 1/4?

just to ad to this long ass thread. i have heard that the camaros are coming back. more to look like the classic ones like ford is doing with the mustang. If you think about it it makes since. Pontiac got rid of the firebird and brought back the GTO, and chevy has nothing to compete with Ford or any other car in that class. the vette is i believe is up a class. So i do believe the camaro is going to come back. i have heard from many people including some that work at GM. An AWD mustang isnt a mustang. sorry but i think thats a stupid idea. Even though when those people made and AWD vette on monster garage, which was baddass if i may add, but than its not a vette though. i think they should bring back the 5.0 like in the GTR of the 05 stangs, drop the 4.6, keep it with that new body and damn its a good looking stang IMO.

Rollin,
Not sure what it will run in the ¼ Mile, I have never taken it to the track. I have read posts on WRX sites where cars with identical mods and tire combinations are in the high 12’’s to low 13’s. I guess it depends on the driver. My 0-60 time is in the mid 4’s. I will cringe driving this car in the winter next year.

I have enjoyed a few opportunities at traffic lights with the odd M3, GT, 350Z and a few C5’s. I look stock as I’m not into “look at me” bolt-ons. So far not bad…blew a 1st to 2nd shift with a C5 for my only defeat……fack!...I’m way too old for this. I just detest drivers who run up beside you and rev the engine….Lately I am nursing a bruise on my right shoulder from my wife’s fist.

the american companies will have to do something AWD in two years. and the torque would not kill the front end in an AWD v8. in 2006 the market will be flooded with AWD. i am not talking pussy little 200 fwhp cars, i am talking 350 awhp skylines, newer STis and evos, audis, and more **** that will piss us off. te skyline will have around 425 hp at the crank and will be around 400 ft-lbs of torque. that is 11s, stock. someone will have to answer the AWD cars and come out with one that is more badass the previously mentioned.

AWD has a big advantage off the line...a kid that works for me has a wrx and took me for a ride in it...you can really feel the difference off the line and making turns...its not as fast top end but those precious second off the line is what's killing mustangs light to light...imo

there are AWD cars that kick ass from a roll. R33 and R34 Skylines, the Audi RS6 and the 07 Infiniti R35. they will also kick ass off the line.

OMG AN ALL WHEEL MUSTANG!!! That would be just what the doctor ordered for me....My friend is really into autocrossing and always picks on me because when i get a mustang.. as we all know.. they arent very good auto cross cars, but omg if there was an all wheel drive mustang. That would hit my g spot;). BRING IT ON!!!

Hmm, it's been awhile but still no more updates on the All Wheel Drive, I'd be surprised if it ends up becoming reality.

im not even reading after the first page. they will not make an awd mustang!!! do you know how many people would be against it?! a lot, similar to the 4 door charger. die hards will not buy it. i bet you'll see an awd focus if anything. history tells the future, ford changes body styles every few years. do you think they would make an 07 gt 500 and change the body the next year on a brand new, thats from the ground up, car. you have to realize the money involved. that guy wouldn't be the first arsehole who thinks he knows secrets that don't ever come true that i've heard or met.

Man, AWD would be great for traction...but I would want to be able to turn off the front wheels at times if they ever did that...I mean, sometime I like throwing my tail out on turns and stuff....

Also, how the hell is the probe even COMPARABLE to Mustang? It is American Rice (Uncle Ben's) nad was manufactured by Mazda for Ford...nowhere close to being an all-American muscle car...the thought makes me shiver.

ford just wants to keep up with competition. if they want to do this they should just go back to the 5.0L and give it more horsepower with better weight distribution; along with all wheel drive :D in my opinion of course

That won't happen, they are making plans for the Focus to go against the Japan AWD. For instance the European focus is NOTHING like the Focus we have here. It's is a very impressive car. Not 500hp+ impressive but impressive compared to the SVT Focus we have here. The mustang is really Fords only performance car, they won't risk messing it up especially since the numbers sold already crush Subarus and Mitsubishi's. To add more interesting info, the mustang was going to be called a Probe or Cougar but they finally decided on the name Mustang.

if they change bodies at 2007, how the hell am I gonna get my GT500?!?!? arghhhh

Well you have until the new Challenger and Camaro come out. Ford will probably do something different aroundt that time. Hopefully they do it right this time. It would be to cool if they made the the new 3-valve GT's 4.6 bigger like a 5.8 liter or was supercharged from the factory.[sm=drooldude.gif][sm=gears.gif]

awd would be lame. wtf would I do with awd if my front tires are a foot off the ground?

ok, I'm done dreaming now. awd is not as much fun a rwd.

my uncle is a mechanic and HVAC technician and always frequents ford dealerships to see whats new with ford and said that ford will be making a new 2dr sports car that i think will be FR but should compete with the viper. i cant remember the name but ford has already made and put on display a concept that looks similar to the Brock coupe. there might already be a thread started. i think it as called the "the next mustang" or something.

I can't remember were I read this at the moment, I think it may have been motortrend or motorweek, but anyway it said a redesign would come around 2008/2009 model year.
Has anyone else head this????

I heard from my dad's step-brother's 3rd cousin (twice removed) who works as a gas jocker right next to a ford dealership that has ties with Ford Racing, that they are only producing the current Mustang until 2007 and 1/2, then a new 5 cylinder turbo awd, with looks based on a retro'd Mustang II will be offered. :eek:

Aren't internet rumors fun?

They have stopped putting the indepent rear in the 07 Mustang Cobra because it was to costly, so I really don't see them going to awd.

i wouldn't buy an all wheel drive mustang.. but i would definitly buy a subaru...

i definitly want a subaru as my next car. i just like how it has a FUNCTIONAL hood scoop. and the mustang's hood scoop is fake... unless you get a shaker.

some of the jeeps you can go from 2wd to 4wd just by a shifter, if they could do that with RWD and AWD in the mustang that would be INTENSE!!!!! more traction = faster car = better 1/4 times stock = major vette killer = OWNAGE

ford has a car to compete w/ the viper if im not mistaken, the Ford GT?

They have a nother concept which im sure wont be made but would compete with the viper too and thats the GR1 i dont like it tho

if ford makes it awd, im selling my stang and getting a chevy.

ORIGINAL: XbcSharpShooter

if ford makes it awd, im selling my stang and getting a chevy.


lol, can i slap u?

some of you were talkin about bringing the focus rs over from europe, I just read that now their out doing even that with the new 2.5 liter turbocharged 220hp focus st.......why must we be punished, ford is (or supposed to be, lol) an american company, why dont we get any fo the good cars??? the japanese keep all there ash kickin cars to themselves, why cant we?? all we get is that stupid svt focus which was cool in its own right, but still, my grandmothers 1985 buick has more power thatn that thing.

heres an arcticle on the new st btw---> http://www.tuningnews.net/news/050216/ford-focus-st.php

that would be insane lol..an awd gt mustang.

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More necromancer action............ppl resurrecting threads from the dead.[8D]

If Ford put out an AWD V8 Mustang they would have my money and my ex-wife in a heartbeat.

Lame thread.

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It's NOT going to happen.

dodge R/T charger offers awd option or rwd
how long before ford follows?

ORIGINAL: V8Cody

Lame thread.

[sm=forgetit.gif]

It's NOT going to happen.


The S197 platform was never designed for AWD. Things are so tight under this chassis, you can't fit a one-legged cockroach down there, much less an entire AWD system. People who start rumors like this are in The Nile.

it could be posible for Ford to redesign the next gen to have it but knowing them its not going to happen.

if you want awd just buy a ranger like i did.