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Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/5/2006 7:47:44 PM   
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Hi all

When I update shortly I think I will need a wiring harness to fit a pioneer avic-z1, does anyone know where I might be able to pick one up? I currently have the Shaker 500.

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/6/2006 1:20:18 AM   
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Best Buy/ Circuit City and decent audio store in your area should carry a harness that just clips into the factory harness and connects to your new deck. No cutting and splicing is required which makes the swapout a breeze. As long as you know the model number for the new head unit you will be able to find a harness easily

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/6/2006 7:00:31 AM   
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Thank you for that info, don't know of an online store do you? I live in the UK and want to order one but don't have a best buy over here!

Thanks again

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/6/2006 10:13:59 AM   
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Do a google search on "metra wiring harness" for a bunch of on-line stores. Assuming the plugs are the same in the UK version, you want model 70-5521.

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/31/2006 3:26:29 PM   
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I know this post is pretty old, but if you're still out there... Did that harness work directly for the Shaker 500 system? I mean did it keep all the factory amps working and everything?

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/31/2006 3:31:43 PM   
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Hello, I am always lurking :)

No rewiring needed, just plug and play and amps and everything work fine!

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/31/2006 4:01:57 PM   
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SHWEEEET! I feel as if a huge wieght has been lifted from my chest!! Or maybe my wallet... as the install would have been around $200, I'm told. Total installation cost now is my personal hourly rate.... $0 (rate only available to... well, me).

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/31/2006 4:13:08 PM   
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Well, the Metra kit sort of works. It's far from plug and play, and will still require minimal splicing, especially if you plan on using the stock amps and subs. I would suggest the wiring harness from Crutchfield. Furthermore, the Pioneer unit will send a 12V remote signal to the amps when the car starts up. The amps expect a 5V, so the subs will pop every time you turn it on. You'll need a voltage 5 volt voltage regulator installed on the remote wire to prevent this from happening.

Also, the unit requires the ILL wire to be installed to make sure that it will go into night mode when you flip on the lights (otherwise day mode will always be on which can be blinding at night). They removed that wire from the wiring harness for anything after 2005 I think. I grabbed a feed off of the connector to the emergency light switch on the console. I forget which pin, but if you turn your lights on and off you can find it with a multimeter (0V when off and 12V when on).

The last problem is that the car uses a CAN-bus system so you can't grab a direct speed pulse from any of the interior electrical systems. You'll want this pulse to make the navigation more accurate (it will run without it, just not as well). This requires you run a wire to the engine compartment and tap into the Blue/Yellow wire just before the PCM. I had mine professionally installed at first (was free with the purchase of the unit), and they didn't hook up any of the stuff I mentioned correctly. Spent the next week figuring out the rest of this stuff.

I'd be happy to answer any questions in more detail (I know the above is just a blitz of information).

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/31/2006 7:12:16 PM   
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Thank you for that info, don't know of an online store do you? I live in the UK and want to order one but don't have a best buy over here!

Thanks again


A world with no Best buy, sounds like heaven.....


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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/4/2008 3:51:51 AM   
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I'm in the process of replacing my Shaker 500 HU with a Pioneer P8000BT.  It's a new unit with all the latest connections (USB, built-in BT, IPOD, etc.) Don't need the nav or DVD so I went with this just released model.  I'm adding XM but keeping the stock speakers for now.

I'm putting the wiring harness together following instructions from this board (inc 5V regulator).  I have several questions:
1.  The Metra 70-5521 has an extra blue wire in the large connector.  It's next to the orange/white wire.  Can't find info anywhere about this wire, even Crutchfield's/Metra's instruction sheet omits the wire.
2.  The yellow/black Mute wire in the Pioneer harness won't be used in my setup? (With no DVD I'm not doing the speed bypass obviously)
3.  The Metra harness has the orange/white illumintation wire.  This splices directly into the the Pioneer harness ILL wire.  That should take care of the day/night issues, correct?
4.  Clarify the sub hookup.  If I'm reading correctly the Shaker 500 uses one sub amp for both doors; therefore, I only need to hookup one of the RCA jacks.   Either one? Or is red or white preferred?  The other just dangles behind the dash I suppose.

Thanks in advance for the help. 

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/7/2008 8:08:38 PM   
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I just installed an Alpine 9886 HU to my Shaker system.
I think the blue may be power antenna?
You are right about the yellow / black wire.
I used the orange wires and the auto dimmer works correctly.
I ran the RCA's (both red & white) into the sub out jacks on the back of the Alpine. The shaker system sounds better than ever.
Now I need to insulate the doors so they quit shaking.
Everyone is always so down on the Shaker.....My experience now is if you replace the head unit, it sounds pretty good....at least for my 47 year old ears.
Anything is an improvement in my convertible.

Good Luck.

PS, I also got a +5v regulator ($1.59 at Radio Shack) and soldered the wires. Used heat shrink and electrical tape to give it some strength & bolted it to the chassis along with the ground wire. The popping has stopped. I also replaced the rear speakers with Alpine S's ($49.00 on E-bay)
 


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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 4/14/2008 8:00:52 PM   
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Finished my install this weekend.  Also used the 5v regulator fix and have no popping.  The install experience was...interesting.  So many wires to contend with (XM, BT mic, USB, Aux) and the Ford engineers make accessing the radio a bit challenging.  How 'bout those wiring harnesses!!!

Interesting about your dimmer wire.  It shouldn't work!  I found the Shaker 500 wiring diagram and the factory dash harness does not contain a dimmer wire.  Best I can tell the orange/white from the radio harness connects to nothing in the Ford harness.  Not surprising because the Shaker doesn't dim with the headlights on, or at least I never noticed it.   Instead, I ran a tap wire to the headlight switch as suggested in another post.  It's not working either but I haven't tracked the problem down.  I don't think I have the tap well connected.   Will troubleshoot later.  Otherwise, everything is working fine.

Did you use a Metra kit?  Wasn't too fond of the HU fit or alignment with the dash.  Actually had to use two washers behind the top 2 mounting screws to improve the dash alignment.  Still not satisfied though.  May actually remove and try again. 

Also hooked up both subwoofer RCA's.  Didn't try a single connection.  Subs seem fine.

By the way, where did you ground everything?  I used one of the large bolts that holds the dash support brace.  Easy access behind the wing panels.  Just loosened slightly and slipped the ground wires under then tightened.  However, did not bolt the 5v regulator down.  Just left with the harness behind the radio.  Wondering about heat??  

I also think the stock speakers sound ok to my 47 year old ears (small world!)  The doors do rattle a bit I've noticed.  Let us know if you figure out an insulation trick.  I may eventually replace the speakers but I'm satisfied for now.  So many entertainment options...CD, AM/FM, XM, BT Audio, IPod, USB thumb drive, Aux input.  Shew, I need to drive 24 hours a day!

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 6/26/2008 5:50:47 AM   
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Randy,
I''m about to install same radio in my 2005 Mustang.  Thanks for posting and alerting me to need for 5V regulator.  One question: what did you ever do with that extra blue wire in the larger of the two Metra connectors?  I called Crutchfield and they said just tie it in to the 12v switched (red) line??  Said it ''might'' be for an electronic antennae signal booster.  Needless to say, I''m not crazy about tapping and unknown wire into a power line for fear of frying something in my dash.  If Crutchfield is right, then if the blue wire is not connected, you should get poor FM/AM reception.
So, did you connect the blue wire?  If not, how is radio reception?
Thanks,
Steve

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 6/26/2008 6:59:51 AM   
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to test the dimmer wire all you need a voltmeter and it will vary between 6-12v.  If you can''t find one then just connect it to your red 12v switched wire and the lights will turn on and off with the key.

The solid blue wire?  I thought that was the amp turn on.  Sometimes they like to print what each wire is in small writting on the wire.

It is not uncommon to find dead wires in hrns''s since they are normally made to fit a bunch of different cars.

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 6/30/2008 9:55:07 AM   
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I called Crutchfield and got a tech who did some research for me.  Solid blue wire is for a power antenna (available in some other Ford models with which the Metra Harness works).  Amp turn on were a pair of blue with white stripe wires.  Amps working fine.
Hooked up unit, and is sounds terrific, but lights don''t dim.  I think the dimmer wire is actually in the 3rd connector that ran to the Shaker 500 and isn''t used with Metra kit.  that connector is intermediate in size between the two that fit the Metra rig but has only 2 wires.  One is purplish and I think it may be the line that signaled the Shaker about vehicle speed for the auto volume control function.  I''m thinking maybe the other wire (it was white w/orange stripe as I recall) may be the dimmer line.  Will test voltage on that line and if it is linked to dimmer, will tie into the dimmer line for Pioneer.
Turns out the Pioneer BT doesn''t like my phone, so I''m waiting on the Pioneer 6000 series unit to come in.  Looks like harness is identical as the 8000/6000 audio specs are (except for lack of BT).
Steve

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 6/30/2008 10:27:18 AM   
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be carefull as there is a dimmer wire(which tests as I said above) and then sometimes there is a dimmer ground which tests as a ground.  You don''t want the ground but if you hit it on accident all you will do is blow a fuse.

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/1/2008 5:15:09 AM   
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I''m installing a Pioneer DEH-P4000UB in place of my Shaker 500.  I''m looking at the Ford wiring harness and the RCA plugs with the two blue wires.  I don''t see where the blue wires connect to?  Pretty new to this...

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/1/2008 7:46:22 AM   
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I called Crutchfield and got a tech who did some research for me.  Solid blue wire is for a power antenna (available in some other Ford models with which the Metra Harness works).  Amp turn on were a pair of blue with white stripe wires.  Amps working fine.
Hooked up unit, and is sounds terrific, but lights don''''t dim.  I think the dimmer wire is actually in the 3rd connector that ran to the Shaker 500 and isn''''t used with Metra kit.  that connector is intermediate in size between the two that fit the Metra rig but has only 2 wires.  One is purplish and I think it may be the line that signaled the Shaker about vehicle speed for the auto volume control function.  I''''m thinking maybe the other wire (it was white w/orange stripe as I recall) may be the dimmer line.  Will test voltage on that line and if it is linked to dimmer, will tie into the dimmer line for Pioneer.
Turns out the Pioneer BT doesn''''t like my phone, so I''''m waiting on the Pioneer 6000 series unit to come in.  Looks like harness is identical as the 8000/6000 audio specs are (except for lack of BT).
Steve



Check in the menu on the pioneer deck bc you may have to turn the dimmer function on.
Turn the deck off. then press and hold the function button. use the "multi control nob" and turn it till you see dimmer function and make sure it is on.


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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/1/2008 7:47:54 AM   
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I''''m installing a Pioneer DEH-P4000UB in place of my Shaker 500.  I''''m looking at the Ford wiring harness and the RCA plugs with the two blue wires.  I don''''t see where the blue wires connect to?  Pretty new to this...


The 2 blue/white wires with the rcas are on the harness you have to buy that plugs into your factory ford plug.

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RE: Wiring harness? Shaker to Pioneer? - 7/1/2008 10:47:52 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: Scooby15

I''''''''m installing a Pioneer DEH-P4000UB in place of my Shaker 500.  I''''''''m looking at the Ford wiring harness and the RCA plugs with the two blue wires.  I don''''''''t see where the blue wires connect to?  Pretty new to this...


The 2 blue/white wires with the rcas are on the harness you have to buy that plugs into your factory ford plug.



Just wonder why Crutchfield didn''t send me all the plugs I needed when I ordered the H/U?

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