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yeah, 210hp out of a 4.0l engine is actually pathetic compared to the japanese cars running that infamous (at least infamous to american car makers) 3.5l engine that the 350z and g35 have (and i think skyline maybe?)
very dissapinted in ford when it comes to this one....
you get what you pay for $22,000 gets you the name mustang, new body style, 4.0L SOHC. If your not happy with what FORD has done, then use your own money to make it faster. Oh, and say our v6 stang was as fast as say a 350Z, guess what. Your insruance rates would be as high as if you had gotten a GT so you have to look at the whole picture.
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you get what you pay for $22,000 gets you the name mustang, new body style, 4.0L SOHC. If your not happy with what FORD has done, then use your own money to make it faster. Oh, and say our v6 stang was as fast as say a 350Z, guess what. Your insruance rates would be as high as if you had gotten a GT so you have to look at the whole picture.
...i dont think insurance rates were what pushed most people to get 6ers, for me it was purely because they did not have gt's that were not verts (whoever buys a vert in a city where it rains weeks in a row is not very intelligent)
an intercooler just cools the ambiant air, detonation occurs when the air is hot and compression alone ignites the combustion process before the spark, kinda like pre-iignition.. colder air allows you stuff more boost in the CH because it will take that much more for the air to compress to the temperature where ignition happens.. also cold air is smaller in size (if you were to measure air) and you can get more in the CH relative to the air's density in the CH... 6psi hot = density A, 9psi cold= denisity A... just for example
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It goes back to the belief that if Ford put a super-duper V6 or even straight-six in the Mustang that was equal to or better than an import six cylinder, then why would anyone buy a GT?
Having said that, I believe that the 4.0 can put out about 230-250 horsepower at the wheel, but it will need a hot cam and high flow heads in addition to CAI, Throttle-Body, Exhaust and Tune. I would also say running bigger injectors will help as long as you've got the fuel pump to match and don't forget beefing up the gearing.
an intercooler just cools the ambiant air, detonation occurs when the air is hot and compression alone ignites the combustion process before the spark, kinda like pre-iignition.. colder air allows you stuff more boost in the CH because it will take that much more for the air to compress to the temperature where ignition happens.. also cold air is smaller in size (if you were to measure air) and you can get more in the CH relative to the air's density in the CH... 6psi hot = density A, 9psi cold= denisity A... just for example
i knew i took chemistry for a reason last year lol
yeah, 210hp out of a 4.0l engine is actually pathetic compared to the japanese cars running that infamous (at least infamous to american car makers) 3.5l engine that the 350z and g35 have (and i think skyline maybe?)
very dissapinted in ford when it comes to this one....
While they may make more HP... they tend to LACK in the Torque department! You need displacement for Torque... And the 4.0L does a really descent job making Torque... Torque is what pushes your butt in the seat! LOL!
BTW... I'll be avoiding cams and such... A lot of work ($$$)... especially the passenger side cam... hard to get a good tune.. I don't want to risk screwing up the "Streetablity" of my car...
yeah, 210hp out of a 4.0l engine is actually pathetic compared to the japanese cars running that infamous (at least infamous to american car makers) 3.5l engine that the 350z and g35 have (and i think skyline maybe?)
very dissapinted in ford when it comes to this one....
Yea I agree too. I agree a lot. It seems the Domestic v6's are never matched up well enough. Well when the Camaro's & Challenger's come out Ford will use a 3.5l DOHC that will produce 250hp at the motor but even thats still blaaa. What 220 at the motor!! The 350Z has great stock HP at the motor. I heard that the 350's only actually dyno at 235 -240 at the wheel with auto's I belive. I also heard that those STI's are only about 250 at the wheels cause of the all wheel drive but I doubt that one those suckers are quick!!!!
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yeah, 210hp out of a 4.0l engine is actually pathetic compared to the japanese cars running that infamous (at least infamous to american car makers) 3.5l engine that the 350z and g35 have (and i think skyline maybe?)
very dissapinted in ford when it comes to this one....
While they may make more HP... they tend to LACK in the Torque department! You need displacement for Torque... And the 4.0L does a really descent job making Torque... Torque is what pushes your butt in the seat! LOL!
BTW... I'll be avoiding cams and such... A lot of work ($$$)... especially the passenger side cam... hard to get a good tune.. I don't want to risk screwing up the "Streetablity" of my car...
Thats very true too about the torque.
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While they may make more HP... they tend to LACK in the Torque department! You need displacement for Torque... And the 4.0L does a really descent job making Torque... Torque is what pushes your butt in the seat! LOL!
BTW... I'll be avoiding cams and such... A lot of work ($$$)... especially the passenger side cam... hard to get a good tune.. I don't want to risk screwing up the "Streetablity" of my car...
just feed the 4.0L boost, if you want reliability go x-charger(doesn't cause so much stress on da engine) and run it at a conservative boost and tune and you will have years of fun. Just remeber that you will have maintain it
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well i am sure they could also pump out more power with the 4.6l v8, i mean if people can get almost 300hp with a v6, i am sure they can get more with a bigger engine with more pistons
so you would have a good amount of power out of the 4.0 v6, and a great amount out of the 4.6 v8
yes but running 6 psi cold air will make more power and will be safer for the engine than 6 psi hot air. Cold air expands more when ignited therefore making more power, but the cold air before it ignites will be less prone to detonation...
Higher temperatures mean more energy and with more energy a substances particles have more movement and they expand. so cooler air is more dense than warmer air and because gasoline ignites at a constant temperature, it will expand the cold air with the same temp as it would the warm air and because more density means less volume per mass, there will be more air to expand at a lower temperature than there will be with a higher temperature. Higher temperatures mean more energy and with more energy a substances particles have more movement and they expand. altitude and humidity also effect air density, but thats a different story...but altogether my statement about an intercooled 6psi is safer than a non-intercooled 6psi and it will also make more power was it not?
ummm duhhhh, the x-charger will take air from a cold air intake. you where just stating the obvious. If you don't do your research and you don't understand the main concepts of poweradders then you shouldn't do it. its just that simple. what i'm tryn to say is I'M ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!
not my bigwheel. The v-tec sticker gives that puppy 1 man-power. and since i am all that is man that is equal to 1 gazillion hp at the wheels! the very sticky plastic tires make it almost impossible for me to lose traction at all.
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