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Hey noob, this is supposed to be an informative forum for people who would like to learn from those who actually know what they're talking about. I have been on this Mustang forum for years (check the join date and post count) with no problems from anyone else, you have been here for like 20 minutes and appear to have nothing useful to add. If you have a problem with that, go talk to an admin/mod about it and see how far you get. I don't think it would go well for you though. I don't care where you got that horsepower info, it is wrong. BTW my 2002 car no longer being produced would take a dump on your 2006 that still has not caught up to where the LS1 was in 1996. Seriously.
< Message edited by TommyV8 -- 6/28/2007 8:42:29 AM >
Black*Death, please stop posting in an info thread if you have no useful info to give. You're arguing info that you dug up off of some website against actual LS1 owners' first hand knowledge......that seem sensible to you? And if you think all the LS1 guys are lying, then just give up and go post somewhere else......why beat your head against a brick wall???
The GM hp ratings on the LS1 F-bodies were just marketing BS. If you know so much about these cars, why do you need to come in here? Your gums are flapping a mile a minute......but you're only managing a few feet an hour.
Now, please crawl back to the 05-07 section..........and STAY there.
Black*Death, please stop posting in an info thread if you have no useful info to give. You're arguing info that you dug up off of some website against actual LS1 owners' first hand knowledge......that seem sensible to you? And if you think all the LS1 guys are lying, then just give up and go post somewhere else......why beat your head against a brick wall???
The GM hp ratings on the LS1 F-bodies were just marketing BS. If you know so much about these cars, why do you need to come in here? Your gums are flapping a mile a minute......but you're only managing a few feet an hour.
Now, please crawl back to the 05-07 section..........and STAY there.
I did try and post useful info and got flamed for it so don't feel I had "no useful info to give". Edmunds.com is a very good authority on vehicles so wouldn't call it "digging" up. Tommy V8 went into tirade insulting me and telling me never post again. I'll post where ever I want dude. Also your info seems to back me up so..............why the flame for correct info huh?
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I seriously doubt the ls1's were putting out 320 @ the crank because I have seen a few dyno right around 300 to the wheels, they are underated simply for the fact that they were selling vette's with the same engine but for almost twice as much. Its all marketing GM knew the vette guy's would get butthurt had they known their vette was only putting out about the same hp than maro/transam. Gm has been doing it for years.
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I seriously doubt the ls1's were putting out 320 @ the crank because I have seen a few dyno right around 300 to the wheels, they are underated simply for the fact that they were selling vette's with the same engine but for almost twice as much. Its all marketing GM knew the vette guy's would get butthurt had they known their vette was only putting out about the same hp than maro/transam. Gm has been doing it for years.
Ok thanks for the info. That's all I wanted to discuss with people. Thanks for posting and not simply flaming
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Black*Death, please stop posting in an info thread if you have no useful info to give. You're arguing info that you dug up off of some website against actual LS1 owners' first hand knowledge......that seem sensible to you? And if you think all the LS1 guys are lying, then just give up and go post somewhere else......why beat your head against a brick wall???
The GM hp ratings on the LS1 F-bodies were just marketing BS. If you know so much about these cars, why do you need to come in here? Your gums are flapping a mile a minute......but you're only managing a few feet an hour.
Now, please crawl back to the 05-07 section..........and STAY there.
I did try and post useful info and got flamed for it so don't feel I had "no useful info to give". Edmunds.com is a very good authority on vehicles so wouldn't call it "digging" up. Tommy V8 went into tirade insulting me and telling me never post again. I'll post where ever I want dude. Also your info seems to back me up so..............why the flame for correct info huh?
Blood 147 is right, When the LS1 Camaro came out chevy put down very pestimistic numbers to try and make it look farther away from the LS1 corvette. they didnt want buyers to see their affourdible muscle car to be able to touch their high end exspensive sport car so they published lower numbers than what the car acully has stock. I see alot of car info sites take their HP ratings directly from the manufacture as they are the ones who made the car, however its not always acurate.
" Cars still only made 320 HP according to Edmunds so stock you would not beat me with tune and CAI."
Seriously have you ever raced a LS1? Im not discounting the new GT, their HP numbers are respectible, but a tune & CAI will not be able to take an LS1.
< Message edited by TheStig -- 6/28/2007 9:58:14 PM >
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I did try and post useful info and got flamed for it so don't feel I had "no useful info to give". Edmunds.com is a very good authority on vehicles so wouldn't call it "digging" up. Tommy V8 went into tirade insulting me and telling me never post again. I'll post where ever I want dude. Also your info seems to back me up so..............why the flame for correct info huh?
My post was not a flame..........trust me. But there has been an influx of 05+ Mustang owners into this section lately who swear by the manufacturer's (GM) hp ratings on the LS1 F-bodies......and truly don't know what they're talking about. Problem was, you were starting to sound like one of them.
Yes, GM's hp ratings were BS. They were BS, cuz......as everyone here has said.....GM underrated them by 20-30hp. An LS1 Camaro actually makes closer to 350hp, not 320. Thats real world dyno-proven. The quicker you accept that, the better a place the world will be for you.
And you are free to post where you want, but if all you're gonna do is argue with ppl who have first hand experience with something that you don't, then you're gonna do nothing but spin your tires in the Street/Strip section. It is the unofficial "gumbo" section of this website.............lots of guys who fancy, own, and drive lots of different cars.....not just Mustangs. If you're down with that, and you're willing to listen and learn something.......you will be welcomed. Now let's just get back to info posting in this thread.....and let the mini-flamewar die off. Thanks.
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OK enough. I put this up as an info only thread and don't want to have to lock it. Blackdealth next time you have an issue don't crap up my sticky, just PM the person or somthing but don't get into a e-fight in a sticky. I will be deleting yours and anyone elses posts in thread that do not have concrete info. BTW Edmunds is NOT I repeat NOT givin the correct info on these cars. All Edmunds does is regurgitate whatever the factory (GM in this case) tells them. While Tommy might have been a bit harsh and I don't condone flaming, we are getting tired of people who try and tell us that we wrong when what we are saying is fact.
< Message edited by JD1969 -- 6/29/2007 11:05:07 PM >
No problem. I wasn't trying to insult anyone with original post just saw everyone all over the place with HP numbers and was trying to put out numbers I found.
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That's understandible, but please realize that magazines and internet site like Edmunds almost never have the info or 1/4 times on cars that are correct.
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I can do it, but right now I don't have the time. I just realized that your an MFBA'er. It took me awhile to put 2 and 2 together, but you are out by Cordova right? My brother used to live in Albany, he worked at the Nuke plant.
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What is the difference between the LS1 and the LS6 besides power levels? They both have the same cubic inch rating?
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V-6 is for real drivers. Go buy a Jetta if you want gas mileage and a chicks car. Buy a V-8 Mustang if you have no driving ability and need the extra horsepower to compensate and feel like you're fast.
What is the difference between the LS1 and the LS6 besides power levels? They both have the same cubic inch rating?
Basically better block, better cam (stock wise), better heads, better intake manifold. Here's a little piece straight from Wiki:
"The LS6 shares its basic block design with the GM LS1 engine, but other changes were made such as windows cast into the block between cylinders. An improved intake manifold, higher-lift cam, and higher compression ratio boost output compared to the LS1, and a new oiling system is better suited to high lateral acceleration."
My 98 TransAm was rated at 305hp and it was dead on. I was upset with the power so I bought an exhaust system to correct the problem. It then dyno'ed 325rwhp and 340'ish rwtq. It was super slow without the exhaust, definately felt like a 260rwhp'ish car. The exhaust picked it up another 65 rwhp or so and it really pulled hard, even for an automatic!
Who says the LS1's aren't best mod for mod? 65rwhp with just an exhaust setup! I should advertise for them.
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