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TommyV8 -> RE: LS1 (5/13/2006 1:00:45 AM)

Sooo, the Cobra R runs similar times than a fully loaded LS1 F-body, but with no amenities and a higher price tag?
Rock on, Ford.

  
freaklt1z28 -> RE: LS1 (5/15/2006 11:55:19 PM)

While browsing I think I saw someone mention the '00 Cobra R had more power than the '03-'04 models- that being untrue. The '03-'04 Cobra's have a tad bit more power, and a few guys at the local strip have ran mid-to-high 12's at 112-113 when their cars were stockers. The N/A 2000 wouldn't be able to keep up with one on the strip. And as far as the Cobra being underrated, try OVERRATED!

OICW -> RE: LS1 (5/16/2006 11:40:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freaklt1z28

The N/A 2000 wouldn't be able to keep up with one on the strip. And as far as the Cobra being underrated, try OVERRATED!



You're thinking of the 99 Cobra. The 2000 Cobra R is something entirely different; it's a full out track machine. The last thing on the desginers' minds was drag racing.



I don't know the exact month or even year of that article (I'm assuming 1999, but could be 2000), but it did have a Vette and Viper in there. And yes, I realize the R was rated at 385 hp, but in the article it either dynoed 380 or 385, and I remember that quote from the editors "either the Cobra R is got an extremely efficient driveline or the Ford guys are trying to hide something".

freaklt1z28 -> RE: LS1 (5/17/2006 10:26:59 PM)

Actually I'm thinking of a 2000 Cobra R. And still the '03-'04 Cobras, though slightly, technically are rated higher (385 TO 390), and even though the purpose of the car was course racing, there's always going to be straightline acceleration in the minds of the makers of a sports car! I was just comparing the two's straightline performance because they are so close in power ratings, that's all.








Hisss04Cobra -> RE: LS1 (5/18/2006 4:26:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: freaklt1z28

While browsing I think I saw someone mention the '00 Cobra R had more power than the '03-'04 models- that being untrue. The '03-'04 Cobra's have a tad bit more power, and a few guys at the local strip have ran mid-to-high 12's at 112-113 when their cars were stockers. The N/A 2000 wouldn't be able to keep up with one on the strip. And as far as the Cobra being underrated, try OVERRATED!

Basically, your saying my cobra that is 390 to the fly, is actually over rated, and is more like 370ish to the fly? Go play in traffic kid...

TommyV8 -> RE: LS1 (5/18/2006 10:45:55 AM)

Hisss, I believe he was referring to the 2000 Cobra R as being overrated. Everyone knows of the power that the blown Cobras make.

Hisss04Cobra -> RE: LS1 (5/18/2006 5:03:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TommyV8

Hisss, I believe he was referring to the 2000 Cobra R as being overrated. Everyone knows of the power that the blown Cobras make.

Then I retract my previous statement [:D]

98LS1 -> RE: LS1 (5/18/2006 5:21:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TommyV8

Hisss, I believe he was referring to the 2000 Cobra R as being overrated. Everyone knows of the power that the blown Cobras make.


Well of course, everyone knows that. They just don't make any useable horsepower.




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[8D]

freaklt1z28 -> RE: LS1 (5/18/2006 8:46:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hisss04Cobra

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Basically, your saying my cobra that is 390 to the fly, is actually over rated, and is more like 370ish to the fly? Go play in traffic kid...



Actually Hisss I wasn't speaking upon your particular model, the '03-'04 Cobra. In my opinion the 2000 Cobra R could be somewhat overrated based on the fact it is rated at 385 and runs quarter-mile times similar to a 325hp LS1, but technically it is a car built for the road course, not the drag strip. As for the '03-'04s, I have two friends that own them, both '03's, and they both ran 12's at between 111-113 BEFORE their cars were modified. Trust me, I would be the last person to say those cars are underrated. Those guys forced me out of my element and made me purchase a Compucar wet kit!

ThisBlood147 -> RE: LS1 (5/28/2006 12:46:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: freaklt1z28


Actually Hisss I wasn't speaking upon your particular model, the '03-'04 Cobra. In my opinion the 2000 Cobra R could be somewhat overrated based on the fact it is rated at 385 and runs quarter-mile times similar to a 325hp LS1, but technically it is a car built for the road course, not the drag strip. As for the '03-'04s, I have two friends that own them, both '03's, and they both ran 12's at between 111-113 BEFORE their cars were modified. Trust me, I would be the last person to say those cars are underrated. Those guys forced me out of my element and made me purchase a Compucar wet kit!


I believe when they speak of underated and overated.......they're not talking about the hype/rep of the car. They're talking about what the automaker lists as the rated bhp for the car. Someone who says the 03/04 Cobras are underrated is just saying that Ford listed the official stock hp for those cars as "less" than what it actually is. An overrated car would have less bhp than what the carmaker listed it as........thus it's listed stock bhp is "overrated".
The whole thing of underrating the bhp on performance cars has been around since the golden age of the muscle car. It's a marketing ploy that helps ppl who want big hp cars avoid big insurance premiums. lol

Pewterwssicc -> RE: LS1 (5/28/2006 12:29:30 PM)

My thought on the Cobra R (if in fact it was only pulling 13's in the quarter) are that it must have been highly overrated. There are lots of road course cars out there that are designed just for the road course and still kick some ass at the drag strip at the same time. I understand that super hard front and back springs and some of the other road course stuff can make it a hard car to launch. But just getting into the 13's with what was said to be making 385rwhp(as OICW stated)is very bad. Now if it was just 385 crank, then it should be making around 335rwhp or so(which sounds more likely to me). Then i can see it only getting low 13's. I still think it should perform better than that, being as its a stripper car, but i would think that 13's would be because its a mag test or manufacturer quote, it could probably actually do more like high 12's. Still too much money for a high 12 second car. Again keep in mind though, it was made for the road course, so if we dont know how it performs there, it is hard to estimate its value to performance enthusiasts that actually only care about performance and priding.

Rusmisel01GT -> RE: LS1 (6/21/2006 1:50:20 AM)

This is the only place i could think of asking this... Is it true that Camaro's cant have an H/X pipe/true duals?

Pewterwssicc -> RE: LS1 (6/21/2006 3:16:40 AM)

It was true up until about two or three years ago. There where only a couple of home made true duals made and no product available to us. But now there a a couple of true dual products you can purchase for an LS1. I think GMMG makes one of the more popular ones.

98LS1 -> RE: LS1 (6/21/2006 7:55:09 PM)

I run true duals with an x-pipe and longtubes.

jersey98gt -> RE: LS1 (7/11/2006 7:47:17 PM)

should have read this thread before speaking

98LS1 -> RE: LS1 (7/11/2006 7:50:25 PM)

Don't feel bad man, that's why this thread is here. You're nowhere near being the first to do what you did. Hence the reason this is stickied at the top. Hopefully others will see it.

jersey98gt -> RE: LS1 (7/11/2006 9:09:58 PM)

crazy though in 2002 last year of the camaro it made 350 compared to a similarly priced GT at 260....just amazing

jersey98gt -> RE: LS1 (7/11/2006 11:30:19 PM)

Whats the deal with 02-04 Z06's??????????

Pewterwssicc -> RE: LS1 (7/11/2006 11:43:35 PM)

What information are you looking for. They are lighter than the original vette, come with 405hp, have a different block, heads, and cam than an LS1. The mufflers are made of titanium to cut weight. They have closer gears in the tranny, which equate to having around 3.90's in the rear. Stock they are an easy 12.4@ around 116 and some crazy good drivers have gotten 11's with them bone stock. Any other questions?

jersey98gt -> RE: LS1 (7/12/2006 1:51:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Pewterwssicc

What information are you looking for. They are lighter than the original vette, come with 405hp, have a different block, heads, and cam than an LS1. The mufflers are made of titanium to cut weight. They have closer gears in the tranny, which equate to having around 3.90's in the rear. Stock they are an easy 12.4@ around 116 and some crazy good drivers have gotten 11's with them bone stock. Any other questions?
you hit the nail on the head

  

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