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I see.....I was going on the fact that i thought i read somewhere,that GM was tuning 5 more hp or something for 2000 and up.Im not sure exactly though.And yes,i fully acknowledge your info as true.
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Here is a detailed list of Cams that came with the cars.
So as you can see there has been basically very small differences in cams. The 01-02 is basically the same.
To answer some of your question 32valve. The vettes dont make more hp. There are equal to the F-bodies and sometimes actually make less power, because the independant rear suspension robs some hps. The differences are actually just weight. F-bodies are only about .2 behind the vettes on the 1/4 with everything being equal(not including ZO6's). The GTOs rated at 350hp where jsut actually given the proper rating. The F-bodies where underrated by about 30hp. They should have been rated at 350 also. The speculation is that the vette owners would get pissed and GM would lose some long time vette guys. Dont know what made them change there minds with rating the GTO correctly. Maybe they discovered it wouldnt matter.
Also i just wanted to let you guys know that LS1tech just opened up a new Forum site for the mustang. Here is a link to it, you should go and check it out.
Is it me or did we miss the power of the 2000 Cobra R in the same year of the LS1/LS6? Being that it is NA, lighter weight, and makes more power than a stock 03/04 Cobra...does anyone know the stats on its level? 330ci 4V Right?
I can't remember its stock capabilities....
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Holy sh..!!I dont mean to hijack but,is this predator03[dark grey]...as in streetfire!?Ive been watching those vids before i ever owned a cobra!!!
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Interesting Information...
It helps me gauge the LSx and its capabilities;)
Is it me or did we miss the power of the 2000 Cobra R in the same year of the LS1/LS6? Being that it is NA, lighter weight, and makes more power than a stock 03/04 Cobra...does anyone know the stats on its level? 330ci 4V Right?
I can't remember its stock capabilities....
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The Cobra R was a very impressive machine. However, it was too expensive for the average Joe to go out and buy one. The average Joe could easily buy an LS1 F-body and be almost as fast (low 13's, possible high 12's with slick gear-banging). The regular Cobra was a lot cheaper and not exactly slow, either.
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Does anybody know how i would do against an ls1. I have had the chance to race one with my nitrous in.???
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ok thanx jd
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About the Cobra R thing, I remember when R&T tested the Z06, Cobra R, and ACR Viper, they mentioned that the Cobra dynoed 385!
Anyone know if that's true? Were they really that underrated? Make sense to me when I think about it. The terminator Cobras dyno 360's or so, and most magazines comment that they're a little weaker in the mid - top range than the R.
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I have seen in person twice and have read and heard all over the least those ls1 put down is 315rwhp with open manifolds, and the hood open so he is probally right the engine does produce around 370 the way it is(just less restricted). That would be a 60-65hp gain over the stats from just removing a part(y pipe). I haven't seen another car do such a thing.
About the Cobra R thing, I remember when R&T tested the Z06, Cobra R, and ACR Viper, they mentioned that the Cobra dynoed 385!
Anyone know if that's true? Were they really that underrated? Make sense to me when I think about it. The terminator Cobras dyno 360's or so, and most magazines comment that they're a little weaker in the mid - top range than the R.
I'm pretty sure that is crank hp, not wheel. Is that the same article where they only mustered like a 13.5 out of the Cobra R?
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The Cobra R is rated at 385 at the crank; I don't know if they are underrated or not, so I dunno what one would put down at the wheels. As for 315 being the least hp an LS1 will put down with open manifolds, that may or not be true. Completely stock (closed exhaust) they routinely put down 300-305 depending on the dyno, so eliminating the crappy flatworm Y-pipe and huge restrictive stock muffler should give a fairly decent power increase I would think. 10 hp sounds reasonable, I dunno about 15.
"The 2000 SVT Mustang Cobra R debuted as the fastest factory Mustang ever produced. Its SVT-developed, naturally aspirated 5.4-liter V8 produced 385 horsepower, good for 0-60 mph in 4.7 seconds, the quarter-mile in 13.2 and a 170-mph top speed. As a true, lightweight R-model, it also had track-capable brakes, able to make a full stop from 60 mph in just 127 feet. Like all SVT Cobra Rs before it, the 2000 R came stripped of any stock feature not needed for track use or that would add excess weight."
Basic Specs Compression ratio: 9.60:1 Bore x stroke 90.2mm x 105.8mm Displacement: 5.4 liter/330 cid Horsepower: 385 hp @ 6250 rpm Torque: 385 lbs.-ft. @ 4250 rpm
The 2000 R was also stripped of un-needed every-day crap. No rear seats, radio, AC, etc. Hope this helps in anyway.
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