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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 6:08:25 AM
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S8ER01Z
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umm.. all i can say is wow.. i was looking for HPvs$ and thought the new mustang GT beat all... (ofcourse I had only been looking at new cars) still... almost dissapointed in my buy.. ahh.. except i think the new mustang is the sexiest looking car to come out in awhile (atleast until the new challenger & camaro come out)... very impressive info on that camaro though (and im actually abit of a chevy fan, just always liked the mustang's body better)
To each their own, as they say. :) Personally I have no interest in buying anything else at the moment. My Z does it for me more than the New Camaro, or any other car. Of course the new Challenger is dead sexy (damn it hurts to say that).. but luckily it looks to be a pig so I am still content with what I have. :)
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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 9:48:38 AM
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Redneck97
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umm.. all i can say is wow.. i was looking for HPvs$ and thought the new mustang GT beat all... (ofcourse I had only been looking at new cars) still... almost dissapointed in my buy.. ahh.. except i think the new mustang is the sexiest looking car to come out in awhile (atleast until the new challenger & camaro come out)... very impressive info on that camaro though (and im actually abit of a chevy fan, just always liked the mustang's body better)
To each their own, as they say. :) Personally I have no interest in buying anything else at the moment. My Z does it for me more than the New Camaro, or any other car. Of course the new Challenger is dead sexy (damn it hurts to say that).. but luckily it looks to be a pig so I am still content with what I have. :)
I personally dont see the challenger becomeing a major threat mainly becouse of the HUGE dealer mark up thats going to be on them.....And the fact that it's only offering will be a V8 which will kill sales.
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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 10:19:57 AM
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S8ER01Z
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I wish the F-Body was V8s only... haha... look at the Corvette, V6s sales are not needed if the car isn't built to be a mass market machine.
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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 2:31:26 PM
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Redneck97
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I wish the F-Body was V8s only... haha... look at the Corvette, V6s sales are not needed if the car isn't built to be a mass market machine.
then what would be the point of the corvette....the f-body isa vette ina different skin with some other changes mainly rear end.....
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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 2:35:23 PM
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S8ER01Z
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I know... poor mans vette... it had to die...
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RE: LS1 - 12/17/2007 3:24:59 PM
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yea, plus you wouldnt be able to get a nice LS1 today for $12K if they didnt make the V6s. They would probly cost alot more.
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RE: LS1 - 12/18/2007 5:33:06 AM
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Wouldn't have bothered me one bit.
Some of (no offense v6 guys) realize the F-body is a peice of trash with a gift under the hood...take away the gift and I would never have purchased one in my life.
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RE: LS1 - 12/18/2007 4:42:44 PM
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The Stig
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Wouldn't have bothered me one bit.
Some of (no offense v6 guys) realize the F-body is a peice of trash with a gift under the hood...take away the gift and I would never have purchased one in my life.
No offense taken, but I have a different take on my car. I love it for what it is. Sure I could have gone the 1/4 mile a couple seconds faster and gone around that corner .35 seconds faster if I would have gotten a Z28. But I really like my car and Have alot of fun with it. Somday Ill get my C5 and have alot of fun with an LS1 too. But for now im loving what I have.
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RE: LS1 - 12/21/2007 12:59:11 PM
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For some different perspective, GM rated my '02 Z28 at 310 hp, while if you go to nhra.com and look around you can find tables of power ratings of stock cars, and nhra rates my '02 Z28 at 349 hp.
As I understand the differences, in 01 they changed to the ls6 intake but put a milder came which mostly evened out. Any difference in factory power ratings between models was mostly for marketing, but maybe a couple ponies for a different cat-back and lid, which nobody keeps stock anyway. By the way, my Z, about as stock as you get with a lid, kn, and catback, and it was the only time I ever went to a drag strip, with my manual tranny, I ran like 6 13.4's at 106-107.
Also, some people say how the 10bolt rears are weak, but mine is the original with 99k miles on it and god knows how many times I've powershifted through to a 3rd gear chirp, and my rear still works mint.
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RE: LS1 - 12/21/2007 4:40:55 PM
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can someone look at my sig and tell me why that code is showing up instead of my sig pic? then I'll just delete this message, thanks.
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 10:59:30 AM
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The Ls series is deffinately something every american should be proud of i mean they were designed to perform
you guy notice how there is always a Ford vs Chevy debate and i don't see that ending anytime soon and i like the Chevy enigines and say they would be the **** in a mustang notice i said mustang not Ford hehe
ok now on to my question this is to all the chevy diehards how do Chevies stack up to Hemis and why are Hemis never metioned i personally think that they aren't given enough credit and is it true that Chevy wants to/has already sued Dodge for their engines being Ls like?
and weren't the orininal terrors of the 1/4 mile Hemis who makes the most powerful enigne Chevy or Dodge ford isn't in this i'm talking Na form of course that the only form that counts this includes crates 2 thanks in advance
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 11:11:34 AM
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the new hemi's arent anything like the old ones if i remember right. they only share the hemispherical combustion chamber which was supposed to be more efficient, and was at the time producing good numbers (like 180hp in their debut). I believe the new motors are mostly just hemi in name, but the aftermarket is kinda slim, aside from that, they put that motor in a tank of a car like the 300c or charger (which is a 300c with a cosmetic upgrade). hard to be impressed by a 375hp car that runs 14s unless ur real lucky. and i dont think any of them come manual.... but i could be totally wrong about that
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 11:47:34 AM
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yea the new 'hemi' isnt really a hemi there just useing the name to make a profit. Dodge did copy the LS series engine tho...
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 1:15:58 PM
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ORIGINAL: Injected Venom
The Ls series is deffinately something every american should be proud of i mean they were designed to perform
you guy notice how there is always a Ford vs Chevy debate and i don't see that ending anytime soon and i like the Chevy enigines and say they would be the **** in a mustang notice i said mustang not Ford hehe
ok now on to my question this is to all the chevy diehards how do Chevies stack up to Hemis and why are Hemis never metioned i personally think that they aren't given enough credit and is it true that Chevy wants to/has already sued Dodge for their engines being Ls like?
and weren't the orininal terrors of the 1/4 mile Hemis who makes the most powerful enigne Chevy or Dodge ford isn't in this i'm talking Na form of course that the only form that counts this includes crates 2 thanks in advance
+1... The LS1 is getting old now but still a great engine that responds well to mods(or so I am Told) but I defiantely like the looks of a stang much better. Chevy engine with a stang look is tough to beat..........until you step into a C5/C6 vette
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 2:37:38 PM
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yea the new 'hemi' isnt really a hemi there just useing the name to make a profit. Dodge did copy the LS series engine tho...
how so? ive never heard that the hemi motors copied the ls1. There are more than a couple ways to make good numbers on a stock smallblock
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 4:09:45 PM
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yea the new 'hemi' isnt really a hemi there just useing the name to make a profit. Dodge did copy the LS series engine tho...
how so? ive never heard that the hemi motors copied the ls1. There are more than a couple ways to make good numbers on a stock smallblock
Yea, plus I wouldnt say the new hemi isent a really hemi. The thing that makes an engine a hemi is the hemispherical combustion chamber. Hence the name "hemi." And if you disargee then get this, Chrysler owns the name "HEMI" and can put it on any engine they'd like. Technicly making that engine a hemi
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RE: LS1 - 12/22/2007 11:19:01 PM
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[Slight thread detour]
The new Hemis are actually really great motors. I would say that, in stock form, they'd be on par with the LS1 and LS3. It's just that, right now, they are all shoehorned into montrous boats. Drop a 5.7 or 6.1 Hemi into a 3400 lb car and get out of the way. It's a shame Dodge is gonna make the Challenger so heavy. A 3400-3500 lb offering could have really demonstrated what the new Hemis can do.
And, of course, it doesn't help that they made it very hard to modify and tune those motors. But hey, that's a German carmaker for ya.
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Now back to our regularly scheduled LS1 thread.
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