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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 10:53:33 AM   
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I've been shocked by a tazer too, they aren't that bad! Its a pretty fun party trick too. You have a bunch of people hold hands and shock one of them and they all drop, its good as **** when your toasted! Lol

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 1:07:08 PM   
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They shoulda just shot her...


That's the dumbest ****ing thing I've ever heard. If that isn't a PRIME example of EXCESSIVE FORCE then i don't know what it....He had no reason for using that taser gun...Do you honestly know how many people have died from those things? Plenty...I lost a friend because of one those things. Did you hear the woman screaming that she couldn't put her hands behind her back and the idiot kept on tasing her. His partner had to tell him to stop...And she wasn't trying to attack him...She was trying to get him to stop shocking her.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 1:55:16 PM   
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Better hope no one gets caught for street racing by a cop like that huh? Bet you guys that think she deserved it would want some mercy with you being pulled over by a pissed off cop.


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She got what was coming to her. I don't believe she expected all that. Racism is still alive and strong in America. I'd like to see some of those guys that were commenting like that on the streets. Never happens face to face though, only behind computers.


You sound like your contradicting yourself. In the first you sound like you think the cops went too far and in the second you sound like you think she deserved it. But in the first post, would I expect some MERCY? I wouldn't need it. If I got pulled over the cop, he wouldn't have to tell me 7 times to step out of the car. The second he finished asking me the first time my ass would be out of the car with my hands on the hood or roof with the keys laying on the ground.

And for whoever said that it was Excessive Force because there was two guys and they could have "taken her down" then you would complain that there was no need for them to man handle her. Theres never pleasing people that think that, that sort of thing was excessive. You'll always find something that the cop did wrong. I'm not a cop myself but my father is, my aunt is, my uncle is, and a few of my friends are. That situation was not Excessive. In fact, I think that, that was the right move. If, he were to lean in to grap her and drag her out, who's to say that she didn't have a knife or something to stab him. Cops are trained to be able to handle hand to hand type things but if it was your family or friends being the cop and you didn't want them to get hurt you would be perfectly ok with that fact. Why endanger themselves or take the risk of them getting hit if they don't have to.

P.S. I'm telling you for a fact that those things aren't lethal. If you knew anything of electricity, you would know that Volts, even 1,000,000,000,000................... and so on won't kill you as long as there is no amperage. And those taser's don't put out amps. In fact there is no tazer out that puts out amps. I'm not trying to be mean, because death isn't a topic to joke about or make fun of someone about but there your friend either didn't die from the taser or he was holding or standing on something that changed the current of electricty and created an amp.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:00:57 PM   
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Better hope no one gets caught for street racing by a cop like that huh? Bet you guys that think she deserved it would want some mercy with you being pulled over by a pissed off cop.


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She got what was coming to her. I don't believe she expected all that. Racism is still alive and strong in America. I'd like to see some of those guys that were commenting like that on the streets. Never happens face to face though, only behind computers.


You sound like your contradicting yourself. In the first you sound like you think the cops went too far and in the second you sound like you think she deserved it. But in the first post, would I expect some MERCY? I wouldn't need it. If I got pulled over the cop, he wouldn't have to tell me 7 times to step out of the car. The second he finished asking me the first time my ass would be out of the car with my hands on the hood or roof with the keys laying on the ground.

And for whoever said that it was Excessive Force because there was two guys and they could have "taken her down" then you would complain that there was no need for them to man handle her. Theres never pleasing people that think that, that sort of thing was excessive. You'll always find something that the cop did wrong. I'm not a cop myself but my father is, my aunt is, my uncle is, and a few of my friends are. That situation was not Excessive. In fact, I think that, that was the right move. If, he were to lean in to grap her and drag her out, who's to say that she didn't have a knife or something to stab him. Cops are trained to be able to handle hand to hand type things but if it was your family or friends being the cop and you didn't want them to get hurt you would be perfectly ok with that fact. Why endanger themselves or take the risk of them getting hit if they don't have to.

P.S. I'm telling you for a fact that those things aren't lethal. If you knew anything of electricity, you would know that Volts, even 1,000,000,000,000................... and so on won't kill you as long as there is no amperage. And those taser's don't put out amps. In fact there is no tazer out that puts out amps. I'm not trying to be mean, because death isn't a topic to joke about or make fun of someone about but there your friend either didn't die from the taser or he was holding or standing on something that changed the current of electricty and created an amp.



Don't show your ignorance Foxrod.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-bk-taser-030806,0,862363.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/08/05/BAtaser05.DTL

Shall i keep on going....there's 166 more DEATHS here.

That woman didn't even have to stop for that officer...He was in an unmarked Car...I've heard plenty of stories of women not pulling over for officers in unmarked police cars...They drive to the nearest police station while on the phone calling 911 all the way, i can promise you he wouldn't have shot her with that gun in front of the police station...

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:10:35 PM   
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Wait wait wait. Your getting pissy and calling me ignorant. In the first article they didn't even determine the cause of death. The guy could have had an epaleptic seizure or something. You can't deny facts that volts don't kill you amps do. Look it up. I'm not saying that it doesn't hurt like a B*tch but volts don't kill. Like the article said. The taser temp. disable you because the volts surge your body making use of normal functions almost impossible. So don't get mad at me and call me ignorant when science has already proven that volts don't kill.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:12:27 PM   
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And the second is of a guy that has a history of drug use? Bro please. If your gonna call me ignorant please at least have good articles to back up your claim of me being ignorant.

And again in the second article they haven't determined the cause of death to be the taser or if it was his drug use. The guy fell unconsious, generally not what happens to people that get tasered. He may have been doped up. And with the combination of the two maybe it set him off. I don't really know but there still holes in these articles. Can you show me one where the autopsy def. proved that the taser was the cause of death?

P.S. Blaming police for things is a hot button for the press. Just because it's in the media doesn't mean that the stories aren't twisted a little.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:16:05 PM   
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Wait wait wait. Your getting pissy and calling me ignorant. In the first article they didn't even determine the cause of death. The guy could have had an epaleptic seizure or something. You can't deny facts that volts don't kill you amps do. Look it up. I'm not saying that it doesn't hurt like a B*tch but volts don't kill. Like the article said. The taser temp. disable you because the volts surge your body making use of normal functions almost impossible. So don't get mad at me and call me ignorant when science has already proven that volts don't kill.


If volts don't kill....Explain the electric chair. Your making yourself look more and more ignorant with every post you make.

http://www.queensjournal.ca/articlephp/point-vol133/issue28/news/lead2


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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:17:52 PM   
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That woman didn't even have to stop for that officer...He was in an unmarked Car...I've heard plenty of stories of women not pulling over for officers in unmarked police cars...They drive to the nearest police station while on the phone calling 911 all the way, i can promise you he wouldn't have shot her with that gun in front of the police station...



How do you know it was an unmarked car? It could have had a light bar on top. All you saw was half the hood.



P.S. Tha sure looked like a Cobra to me for the original post.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:22:36 PM   
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That woman didn't even have to stop for that officer...He was in an unmarked Car...I've heard plenty of stories of women not pulling over for officers in unmarked police cars...They drive to the nearest police station while on the phone calling 911 all the way, i can promise you he wouldn't have shot her with that gun in front of the police station...



How do you know it was an unmarked car? It could have had a light bar on top. All you saw was half the hood.



P.S. Tha sure looked like a Cobra to me for the original post.


As i stated before....By law...you don't have to pull over for a cop, until your in an area where you feel safe...She could have driven for miles if she wanted too...I'm not saying the woman wasn't a asshole...All i'm saying it the officer had no reason to taser her....All that man wanted to do was see her scream for being an ass...He had no reason...If the role were reversed and 2 black officers would have done that to a rich white woman...The officers would have been suspended with out pay and probably jailed.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:22:55 PM   
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The electric chair send out amperage. Your making yourself look ignorant with these articles that don't explain anything. They are all theory. Show concrete proof.

Do you know what amps are? Amps are within electricity in a sense. It's how the current flows. The electric chair which I don't believe is used anymore except for maybe Texas, sends electricty through someone yes but it is electricity with a certain amperage.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:25:12 PM   
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The electric chair send out amperage. Your making yourself look ignorant with these articles that don't explain anything. They are all theory. Show concrete proof.

Do you know what amps are? Amps are within electricity in a sense. It's how the current flows. The electric chair which I don't believe is used anymore except for maybe Texas, sends electricty through someone yes but it is electricity with a certain amperage.



Dude taser's kill...PERIOD....You think people would be making this up if it hadn't happened. GET OVER IT....they kill and they've killed not only here in the US but all over the WORLD...

And another one...
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050514/NEWS01/505140385/-1/CINCI

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:26:48 PM   
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That woman didn't even have to stop for that officer...He was in an unmarked Car...I've heard plenty of stories of women not pulling over for officers in unmarked police cars...They drive to the nearest police station while on the phone calling 911 all the way, i can promise you he wouldn't have shot her with that gun in front of the police station...



How do you know it was an unmarked car? It could have had a light bar on top. All you saw was half the hood.



P.S. Tha sure looked like a Cobra to me for the original post.


As i stated before....By law...you don't have to pull over for a cop, until your in an area where you feel safe...She could have driven for miles if she wanted too...I'm not saying the woman wasn't a asshole...All i'm saying it the officer had no reason to taser her....All that man wanted to do was see her scream for being an ass...He had no reason...If the role were reversed and 2 black officers would have done that to a rich white woman...The officers would have been suspended with out pay and probably jailed.



Well I now know why the arguement is going. You feel it was a race thing. Wow bro, I know racism is still around and I don't doubt that you may have gone through some stuff but seriously not everything comes down to race. In fact on this note because I don't wanna get into another racist or not racist battle I'm just gonna leave it alone.


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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:29:45 PM   
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Even the government, refuse to use them

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-17-tasers-usat_x.htm

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:30:43 PM   
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The electric chair send out amperage. Your making yourself look ignorant with these articles that don't explain anything. They are all theory. Show concrete proof.

Do you know what amps are? Amps are within electricity in a sense. It's how the current flows. The electric chair which I don't believe is used anymore except for maybe Texas, sends electricty through someone yes but it is electricity with a certain amperage.



Dude taser's kill...PERIOD....You think people would be making this up if it hadn't happened. GET OVER IT....they kill and they've killed not only here in the US but all over the WORLD...

And another one...
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050514/NEWS01/505140385/-1/CINCI



Bro stop using articles that are just theory. Show me something that has concrete proof. Read the articles yourself before posting. If you can't see it already I'll explain it to you. People that the police go and taser are 99% of the time bad people. (killers, drug dealers, drug users, theives, muggers, etc) Most of these people have extensive drug use which could kill them as well. Just understand that people that refuse to cooperate with police are generally the ones with drugs or weapons and are the same ones that would hurt or kill you or your family to get waht they want. Stop trying to use the race card.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:33:06 PM   
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That woman didn't even have to stop for that officer...He was in an unmarked Car...I've heard plenty of stories of women not pulling over for officers in unmarked police cars...They drive to the nearest police station while on the phone calling 911 all the way, i can promise you he wouldn't have shot her with that gun in front of the police station...



How do you know it was an unmarked car? It could have had a light bar on top. All you saw was half the hood.



P.S. Tha sure looked like a Cobra to me for the original post.


As i stated before....By law...you don't have to pull over for a cop, until your in an area where you feel safe...She could have driven for miles if she wanted too...I'm not saying the woman wasn't a asshole...All i'm saying it the officer had no reason to taser her....All that man wanted to do was see her scream for being an ass...He had no reason...If the role were reversed and 2 black officers would have done that to a rich white woman...The officers would have been suspended with out pay and probably jailed.



Well I now know why the arguement is going. You feel it was a race thing. Wow bro, I know racism is still around and I don't doubt that you may have gone through some stuff but seriously not everything comes down to race. In fact on this note because I don't wanna get into another racist or not racist battle I'm just gonna leave it alone.



I call it the way i see if Fox.....Like i said...The woman was a bitch...NO ARGUING THAT...My point was the officer didn't have to taser her. They found ways to handled situations like this before the taser was introduced in 1999...That's a poor excuse for training..

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:33:13 PM   
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Ok bro. Just to stop the arguement you win. Tazers kill people. Cops are bad and people that would do what they want to and hurt whoever they want to are good. Is that what you want to here? Not calling you out, even though I have a serious feeling your gonna take it that way but you are not a Proud American.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:34:45 PM   
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Ok fine they didn't need to tazer her. Would it have been ok to pull her out with the night stick? No then you would say something about Rodney King. Dude, let the past go.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:37:59 PM   
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Ok bro. Just to stop the arguement you win. Tazers kill people. Cops are bad and people that would do what they want to and hurt whoever they want to are good. Is that what you want to here? Not calling you out, even though I have a serious feeling your gonna take it that way but you are not a Proud American.


You know what...I guess people in the Pacific Northwest just see things differently when compared to people living in the southeastern part of the country....You guys are still 50 years behind. There was absolutely no need for that ass hole officer to use that gun....I want comment again on it.

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:40:43 PM   
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Ok bro. Just to stop the arguement you win. Tazers kill people. Cops are bad and people that would do what they want to and hurt whoever they want to are good. Is that what you want to here? Not calling you out, even though I have a serious feeling your gonna take it that way but you are not a Proud American.


You know what...I guess people in the Pacific Northwest just see things differently when compared to people living in the southeastern part of the country....You guys are still 50 years behind. There was absolutely no need for that ass hole officer to use that gun....I want comment again on it.



You mean "won't"? I might be 50 years back but at least I can spell the right word. Wow, now who's the a$$hole. Sounds like a racist minority. Care to comment on Rednecks now?

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RE: Cops using Cobras? - 3/22/2006 2:45:27 PM   
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Ok bro. Just to stop the arguement you win. Tazers kill people. Cops are bad and people that would do what they want to and hurt whoever they want to are good. Is that what you want to here? Not calling you out, even though I have a serious feeling your gonna take it that way but you are not a Proud American.


You know what...I guess people in the Pacific Northwest just see things differently when compared to people living in the southeastern part of the country....You guys are still 50 years behind. There was absolutely no need for that ass hole officer to use that gun....I want comment again on it.



You mean "won't"? I might be 50 years back but at least I can spell the right word. Wow, now who's the a$$hole. Sounds like a racist minority. Care to comment on Rednecks now?


Why should i continue to waste my time....We all know they exist, so why comment on them....in fact i'm talking to one right now...I bet your from Floyda...LOL...Don't worry...I didn't misspell it...I was just talking hillbillish so you can understand me better...

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