RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 1:28:47 AM
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Not that im agreeing with your opinion on the T56 here but,
It's not an opinion! Its what Ford reliably tested it's version of the T56 to. LS1 Z28/SS T56s can hold 450 as well, the Z06 T56 can hold 500-525 and the SRT10 T56 can hold upwards of 650-700 hp.
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Got that from some magazine website, dunno which one. Just did a search on Yahoo!.
Im not saying that a E55 cant beat a 03. A stock 03 will get whipped.
What im saying is you and your "Friend with mad experence" are both on crack. If you cannot get a 03 into the high 11s with a custom tune, pullys, exaust and a CAI of some sort, and some sticky tires, there is something wrong with your driving.
03s arnt everything they are cracked up to be???? Im sorry, but I find a car that you can get for 35k (and you can, look around) and drop 1.5-2k into it, and have 475 HP dammed impressive.
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Not that im agreeing with your opinion on the T56 here but,
It's not an opinion! Its what Ford reliably tested it's version of the T56 to. LS1 Z28/SS T56s can hold 450 as well, the Z06 T56 can hold 500-525 and the SRT10 T56 can hold upwards of 650-700 hp.
Yes, and the T45 is rated at what, 350 HP or so? Yet I see an orgy of supercharged 99+ GTs putting out 400 and 450 horsepower, and still using the stock transmission.
Anyways, I have to be at work tomarrow at 9, so im done argueing. If you want to beileve it takes 650 HP to push a 03 into the 11s, more power to you.
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RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 1:37:48 AM
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You still haven't answered my question, I'll believe you over someone with real world experience with the 03 Cobras if you tell me you've had experience with them, but until then...I tend to believe experience over speculation.
i saw stock cobra doing 12.8, so if you just put some better tires, suspension clutch shortshifter, gears you will be able to do below 12.5 without any problems, the thing is ppl are putting a lof of hp on other stock parts and they getting power but the times cant improve.
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I am just saying that they are way more capable than you are saying. And there aint no way in hell that car should be losing if it has what he says.
And there anit to way it takes 650 HP to get into the 11s. That is exactly what you said.
I kindly challenge you to find a video that will prove me wrong with both a video shoot of the Dyno saying less than 650 rwhp along side video of the cobra laying down 11s at the track...with the same Tremec T56 6 sp manual that comes standard on the 03 Cobras.
Well this aint a vid but it should shut you up lol
RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 3:06:59 PM
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LOL no he didn't shut me up. I just went to bed, besides I can't read **** in that article. He's got the stock T56 and rear end pulling 11.6xx's with 441 rwhp? Cool...but I noticed he's also got some big ass non street legal slicks on & God knows what else done to his car that I can't read because of the tiny ass text. Yes I said "laying down 11s at the track" but you know as well as I do what I meant by that.
Is that Cobra still pulling 11.6s on the street with street slicks? I doubt it.
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LOL no he didn't shut me up. I just went to bed, besides I can't read **** in that article. He's got the stock T56 and rear end pulling 11.6xx's with 441 rwhp? Cool...but I noticed he's also got some big ass non street legal slicks on & God knows what else done to his car that I can't read because of the tiny ass text. Yes I said "laying down 11s at the track" but you know as well as I do what I meant by that.
Is that Cobra still pulling 11.6s on the street with street slicks? I doubt it.
Come on now owned...If it was a supra or a civic you would believe it. A 03-04 cobra comes from the factory producing 386 rwhp.....Yes Rear wheel Horsepower, so why do you think it's impossible for one to run 11's on street tires with just a pulley change.
One word my friend. EVILCARTMEN... Check out his site. All he did was put a lightning pulley on his cobra and he hit's 11's all day on street tires. If you upgrade the supercharger and Get a Kenne Bell you will be making more than 650 rwhp and that my friend would get you into the mid to low 10's on street tires. Supra's aren't the only beast of the streets now. Make way for the Cobra....LOL I hope i didn't offend you or anyone by my post....
Most likely that Supra has more $$$ in the engine than the Stang owner paid for the car. Imagine when the stang owner puts less than 2k in his car.....BYE BYE Supra!!!
RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 4:20:26 PM
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The thing you're forgetting about adding the cost of car in there too is the fact that you can buy a mid 90s TT Supra for about 15-20 grand, how much did 100th96 buy his Supra for? (for specific costs per mileage, etc)
Then throw that 18k into the engine, 38k Turbo Supra vs 38k Cobra, the Supra will walk the Cobra.
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The thing you're forgetting about adding the cost of car in there too is the fact that you can buy a mid 90s TT Supra for about 15-20 grand, how much did 100th96 buy his Supra for? (for specific costs per mileage, etc)
Then throw that 18k into the engine, 38k Turbo Supra vs 38k Cobra, the Supra will walk the Cobra.
Dude you can put 18k into a yugo and it would own a cobra and a supra...What's your point? This is what i'm saying...I get so tired of seeing fellas in there stock or nearly stock 03-04 cobras racing highly modified imports thinking there gonna win...It's not gonna happen. All there doing is giving muscle cars a bad name.
When i think of a muscle car the Toyota supra doesn't come to mind...But i honestly feel that it's in a class by itself when it comes to import and the street racing scene. Even in stock form there nearly impossible to beat.
If someone spends 18k on there car there gonna be tough to beat...It doesn't matter if the car's a supra or a sunfire.......18 grand worth of mods to the engine will make a big difference on the street.
RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 4:41:12 PM
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Dude you can put 18k into a yugo and it would own a cobra and a supra...What's your point? This is what i'm saying...I get so tired of seeing fellas in there stock or nearly stock 03-04 cobras racing highly modified imports thinking there gonna win...It's not gonna happen. All there doing is giving muscle cars a bad name.
Wow that was my whole point, whats this whole arguement really about? it's a stupid pissing match really. Since we agree on THAT right there, I'm done with this debate.
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LOL no he didn't shut me up. I just went to bed, besides I can't read **** in that article. He's got the stock T56 and rear end pulling 11.6xx's with 441 rwhp? Cool...but I noticed he's also got some big ass non street legal slicks on & God knows what else done to his car that I can't read because of the tiny ass text. Yes I said "laying down 11s at the track" but you know as well as I do what I meant by that.
Is that Cobra still pulling 11.6s on the street with street slicks? I doubt it.
ok once again stupidity, ignorance and being illiterate all rolled up in one post. For one thing the first picture says in big black letters. "MID-11S IS EASY WITH THE NEW COBRA. ALL YOU NEED IS A PULLEY AND MICKEY THOMPSON ET STREETS" They are street legal kid, cant you read. That was a bone stock cobra. The only other mods I didnt talk about was that they removed the air box. WOA that was most likely keeping them from 11s lol
Like your name... You just got owned !
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Wonder how much boost it takes that 281 to run 11's?
Well there hitting high 12's with 8 PSI from the factory...I would say 10 would be a safe bet. Cobras are supposed to come from the factory with the same pulley that's on the lightning...I don't know why they didn't leave it on there. Must have been a reliablity issue, or they just didn't want to experience the problems they had with the earlier models.
RE: 03 Cobra vs. Fast Supra video - 3/24/2004 9:43:10 PM
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LOL no he didn't shut me up. I just went to bed, besides I can't read **** in that article. He's got the stock T56 and rear end pulling 11.6xx's with 441 rwhp? Cool...but I noticed he's also got some big ass non street legal slicks on & God knows what else done to his car that I can't read because of the tiny ass text. Yes I said "laying down 11s at the track" but you know as well as I do what I meant by that.
Is that Cobra still pulling 11.6s on the street with street slicks? I doubt it.
ok once again stupidity, ignorance and being illiterate all rolled up in one post. For one thing the first picture says in big black letters. "MID-11S IS EASY WITH THE NEW COBRA. ALL YOU NEED IS A PULLEY AND MICKEY THOMPSON ET STREETS" They are street legal kid, cant you read. That was a bone stock cobra. The only other mods I didnt talk about was that they removed the air box. WOA that was most likely keeping them from 11s lol
Like your name... You just got owned !
Whatever, you owned no one.
Completely, totally, off the Ford assembly line bone stock cobra my ass. he pulled off a whole 1.2 seconds with slicks and a pulley... yeah, maybe with a few other little tricks here and there, no airbox, mirrors tucked in, **** removed from the trunk, etc.
His Best ET easing it out of gear (to reduce wheel spin even on the slicks) was 12.4 which proves my point right there, without basically slamming the gears like mad.... in other words destroying the transmission, there's NO ****ing way you'd run a pulley/slicks Cobra on the streets to 11.6. After all thats what all this **** is about, 11s on the street so you can illegally street race with Supras, right?
You owned no one. You proved that slicks and a pulley can get you 11s at the track, but take that car out on the road and I doubt he'll get anywhere near his 11.6.
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