View Full Version : Hellwig rear Anti-Sway bar install w/pics!
Truxtun 03-15-2006, 08:55 PM Well the rear Hellwig Anti-Sway bar is on... WOW!!! She corners like she is on rails, compared to how she drove before... Noir was with me on the first test drive, and he was thrown to the side of the car as I turned to head down the street. MAJOR difference from no sway bar to adding the rear... the front was a subtle, but noticable difference, this is like night and day. And I can move the bar to the stiffer holes if I want even more aggresive handling. The installation of the rear took about 2 hours with us taking our time, and using manual tools (no power tools or air tools) The bar comes with everything you need to install, and it is a bolt on only. I initially thought there would be some taping of screws or something, but there is not, only the nut/bolts and washers.
A few tips on the installation:
1. When putting the hardware together initially to get ready and mount them, the instructions said to put the hourglass shaped bushings into the hangers and the place the sleeve into it after greasing everything up (lube is provided in 2 tubes) What I failed to read, is that there are 2 different sizes of bushings and sleeves... so after getting them on wrong the first time, and being a pain to get the hour glass shaped bushings out once they are in ('C' clamp works) it is a good idea to read the part that says 'the bushings/sleeves WITHOUT the seam go on the hangers and the sleeves/bushings WITH the seam goes on the axle brackets'
2. Make sure you have an open ended 9/16 wrench in your tool set (and have not lost/misplaced it) or you will be making a run to the store. What, who? Me, don't know what your talking about :D You need it to hold the bolt for the axle bracket, and it is the only thing that will fit. For most of the other bolts/nuts, a normal socket set works.
3. A good torque wrench is a good idea... once again, to do it correctly, one must have the right tools and not have misplaced/lost them :D
I think that is about it, there were no cut/damaged fingers or hands, it was probably one of the easisest mods I have done. Hellwig sends you everything you need, and it is pretty easy using basic tools to get it done... and it makes a BIG difference in the cornering/handling of the car. Anyway... here are a couple pics... since is a basic bolt on, I skipped the pics of the actual turning of the bolts/nuts :D
For those that want this mod having heard how my install went, please call Nancy at Hellwig, and she will set you up $150 was the group buy price!
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Truxtun 03-15-2006, 08:56 PM More pics :D
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I can vouch for the preformance boost that truxten mentioned. The car feels much more solid and pulls alot harder in the turns. I drove my car, his car with the front sway bar only and then finally with both. I'll just put it this way. I was sceptical at first but now im sure I want this mod down the line. Anyway, the install was fairly simple and strightforward. We did come into one problem because of a wrench we were lacking, but we ran down the the autoparts store and grabbed one. Whole install will take the average person about 2 hours. Good mod ++
Hufenstang 03-16-2006, 03:18 AM awesome ive heard good things about the sway bars glad it worked out for you.
chris
WindVeil05DropTop 03-16-2006, 12:43 PM Truxtun,
Thanks so much for all of your detailed info! Just got off the phone with Nancy, my Hellwig rear anti-sway bar is on its way!!! :)
Also, I forgot to ask Nancy, what was the freight cost on yours?
Dean Martin 03-17-2006, 05:42 PM Thanks for the info Truxtun. Just spoke to Nancy and told her you had a nice write-up on this site. My orders in!
muze one 03-17-2006, 06:49 PM how do I contact nancy @ Hellwig to set my car up..?
Truxtun 03-18-2006, 01:45 AM Here is the link to the group buy thread... :D Sorry I did not include it earlier.
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_683937/tm.htm
Nancy can be reached at 800-367-5480 or http://www.hellwigproducts.com/antiswaybars/index.html
Hufenstang 03-18-2006, 02:18 AM hey truxtun what part of kwood are you in?
Truxtun 03-18-2006, 12:45 PM Hunters Ridge (corner of northpark and WLH)
Hufenstang 03-18-2006, 01:42 PM awesome, i've talked with noir some before but dont think i have ever had a chance to talk to you, im up in the back in sandcreek
beaustang 05-10-2006, 10:18 PM bump
Stewart 05-12-2006, 04:33 AM I have my rear sawy bar in and want to get it put on as soon as I can but I'm getting gears put in a week, is the shop going to have to remove the sway bar to do the gear swap or will it be left alone.
WindVeil05DropTop 05-12-2006, 01:11 PM They will have to take the bar itself off, but not the brackets. 95% of the install is getting the inserts into the bushings then mounting the brackets to the frame.
Go ahead and install it. When they do the gears it will literally take them 5 minutes to take just the bar off.
dalbert 07-15-2007, 11:10 PM Truxtun, thanks for the great info. I'm going to be installing a rear Hellwig sway on my V6 soon, and this should be excellent help.
Does anybody know if I'm going to need a jack? I really don't want to buy one or use one. I'm completely fine with being in an uncomfortable working position, so long as I don't have to use a jack. I can only afford to buy the Hellwig kit, not a jack lol
dalbert 09-11-2007, 07:08 PM thanks for those pics they helped a lot actually
dalbert 09-12-2007, 07:07 AM alright nevermind those instructions are all wrong...the sleeve with the seam goes on the hangers and the one without the seam goes on the sides. and also your hangers are facing the wrong way they should be flipped. hope your bar isnt totally screwed up.
dalbert 05-19-2008, 10:42 AM does anybody know for sure which way the hangers are supposed to be hanging??
So_Cali 05-19-2008, 02:47 PM Could you go with just the rear or would it be more ideal to go with front and rear for the biggest difference?
dalbert 05-19-2008, 03:26 PM Keep the stock front and add the Hellwig rear.
So_Cali 05-19-2008, 03:58 PM I didnt know we had a stock one:eek:LOL So just a rear sway is good enough?
jdphillips73 05-19-2008, 04:08 PM dont the 07 ponypackage cars already come with front/rear sways?
ToanTo 05-19-2008, 04:20 PM what i understand is the pony packages do, but regular V6's dont. I'm saving up for my own hellwig rear. Great write up/pics!:D
Sancho805 05-19-2008, 04:34 PM for V6's, only the PP's come with arear sway bar. I believe its 18mm thick. The stock GT rear sway is 20mm thick.
So_Cali 05-19-2008, 04:50 PM ORIGINAL: Sancho805
for V6's, only the PP's come with arear sway bar. I believe its 18mm thick. The stock GT rear sway is 20mm thick.
Yea thats what I thought, I knew regualr 6's didnt have any sways. So am I better off getting both front AND rear or will the rear be enough to feel a substantial difference?
06roushv6 05-19-2008, 05:21 PM ORIGINAL: So_Cali
ORIGINAL: Sancho805
for V6's, only the PP's come with arear sway bar. I believe its 18mm thick. The stock GT rear sway is 20mm thick.
Yea thats what I thought, I knew regualr 6's didnt have any sways. So am I better off getting both front AND rear or will the rear be enough to feel a substantial difference?
actually, all 6's come with a front sway, but the rear is only standard on the PP
Sancho805 05-19-2008, 06:10 PM ORIGINAL: 06roushv6
actually, all 6's come with a front sway, but the rear is only standard on the PP
+1....if you open your hood, you can see it below the fan. its 28mm thick i believe.
So_Cali 05-19-2008, 06:55 PM For the third time! LMAO so will having only a rear sway make a big a big enough difference?
Sancho805 05-19-2008, 07:11 PM YES IT WILL!!!. i currently only have the rear gt sway installed (20mm) along with the factory v6 front sway (28mm) both with factory rubber bushings and i felt a significant difference with the added rear. car stays pretty level when cornering and it really feels like it grabs the road much better. i will be purchasing some poly bushings this weekend and will replace the rubber bushings on the rear. i also have the GT front sway laying in my garage and will install that one as well once i get all the poly bushings i need. should be an even bigger difference:).
jdphillips73 05-19-2008, 08:14 PM i can only speak from pony package experience...but my car hugs the road VERY nicely
dalbert 05-20-2008, 08:01 PM best put the hellwig rear sway bar on the more agressive setting. When i had it on the normal I couldnt tell much of a difference. Set it on aggressive when you first put the bar on.
Sevalley 05-21-2008, 01:23 PM A rear sway bar should be REQUIRED on all V6s. It is night and day difference in driving the car. I almost feel like the car is unsafe without one, and you could lose control on any turn if you are going too fast. With sway bar you can just floor it and keep traction all the way through.
So_Cali 05-21-2008, 01:34 PM Awesome! I think I'll be ordering mine within the next month or so:D
ptkthekid 05-21-2008, 02:12 PM Great post! great info! Thanx!!
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