Mustang 2003 V6 VS Camaro 1996 RS
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Mustang 2003 V6 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 10:34:15 PM
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secretspyder
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I need so advice, my bro just got a camaro, I'll be racing him but who will win?
Me:
2003 V6 Auto
Diablo Sport Tuned
True Dual Flowmaster 40's
MotoBlue underdrive pullies , 42% crack pulley, 5% water pulley
BBK ColdAir intake
Him:
STOCK Manual 3800 V6
< Message edited by secretspyder -- 3/14/2006 1:21:34 AM >
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 10:40:53 PM
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jthorn9
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He'll win because the auto looses way more hp to the rear wheels than a maunal. Now here's how to win as I noticed you have a tuner. Before you race, raise your idel rpms to 1200 rpms, this will give you 100% better off the line time, then raise your shift pressure to 30psi, Harv has his set to 40psi, but that ones up to you on how firm you want your shifts, then set your shift points to 4750 rpms because you'll always shift 500 rpms later than what you should while in the WOT, don't ask me why, but you do. Then set your WOT shift firmness to 120. If you do these mods, you "SHOULD" be able to beat his ass. Also, raising your spark advance by 2% or so wouldn't hurt, but be sure your're running 93 octane in there, but don't go any higher than 2% because you could wind up loosing hp, and could hurt your stock spark plug wires.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 10:58:45 PM
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secretspyder
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thANKS for the advice man, keep the good stuff coming!
Here is my current diablo tune:
Removed speed limiters
Raised the RPM limiter to: 5800
Part throttle shift firmness 30 psi
WOT throttle shift firmness 100 lbs
< Message edited by secretspyder -- 3/14/2006 1:12:45 AM >
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 11:02:21 PM
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Clif Brohn
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You've got him without those mods, IDK what Jthorn is saying. I ran a manual '98 Camaro RS that is driven by a kid that goes to my school, so you should be fine with those mods.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 11:03:11 PM
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03YellowPony
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quote:
ORIGINAL: secretspyder
thANKS for the advice man, keep the good stuff coming!
Here is my current diablo tune:
Removed speed limiters
Raised the RPM limiter to: 5800
Part throttle shift firmness 30 psi
WOT throttle shift firmness 100 lbs
I'm thinkin it's a drivers race..Up the shift firmness on part throttle to 80 psi. Raise the rev limiter to 6250 rpm, like mine. I've taken 3.8 Crapmaros...
Whyat advantage he has wit the manual is deleted by being heavier.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 11:04:41 PM
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jthorn9
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Yea that's a start, raise that WOT firmness to 120, or mild shift, and you'll do good, don't forget to raise that idel rpm setting, if I drop mine back to stock I go from, 0-60 in 8.7s, to 0-60 in 9.5+seconds, it will make a drastic improvement in your off the line time and no, it doesn't cause you to burn that much more gas, maybe 1-3 gallons more, per tank, but it will cause you to ride the break in traffic or 25 mph zones.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/13/2006 11:47:47 PM
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tightdogal
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if hes stock, you should win. i ran against my friends 96 camaro when we were both bone stock and i was ahead about a car length.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 5:54:45 AM
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mustangman02232
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if hes stock, you should win. i ran against my friends 96 camaro when we were both bone stock and i was ahead about a car length.
must have been a 3.4, 3.8s are quick, weather its a 5 speed or 4L60-E auto, pretty much same times, and with a shift kit the 4L60-E is 100 times better then the stick.
im calling a drivers race.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 9:38:48 AM
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tightdogal
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it was a 3.8
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 9:39:15 AM
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tightdogal
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oh excuse me, it was a 97 instead of a 96, i just caught that now
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 10:17:36 AM
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That auto trans is what will kill your launch. I have raced my sons G/F's 03 V6 auto trans Camaro with my 03 V6 auto trans Stang with my son driving the Camaro. I smoke the Camaro, but the Camaro is all stock and I have 4:10 gears and a high stall converter amongst a few other things.
Bottom line, a V6 Stang is a commuter car and the gears and auto trans is a dog untill you change the set up make it quick. I can pull on small V8's just with my drive train mods and I haven't even touched the engine yet, just to give you an idea of how important gearing and auto trany changes are. Your Diablo Sport already put you above the curve, now do your gearing and stall converter and you'll be amazed.
In your case, he will take you off the line, but if the run is long enough, you'll catch him.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 10:39:46 AM
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tightdogal
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booze is right, off the line, the camaro got me. but i caught up to him and eventually passed him.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 10:54:09 AM
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mustangman02232
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maros have 3.08 gears, so they are more for the highway, but they have alot better auto tranny then us.
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 10:57:27 AM
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03YellowPony
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maros have 3.08 gears, so they are more for the highway, but they have alot better auto tranny then us.
Like I say...4.10's rule! And a tuner doesn't hurt either..
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RE: Mustang 2003 VS Camaro 1996 RS - 3/14/2006 11:23:26 AM
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hahahah ill race ya in my mean 82 4 banger lol!
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