anyways, yeah whatever i can do to my v6 to make it fast, which would be cheaper, also, there is nothing better than getting your ass beat in a gt by a v6, so yeah will you help me then? i would like to fix it up, and just to let SOME people know, i got 17x9" cobra r rims, and new exhaust with new headlights, so mine looks better than yours 100th96cobra...
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agreeing with what has been said here... if you want to produce more power out of your vehicle... the more cost effective and less agonizing way to do it is to build your 232... you have a 98... so you have the single port intake 232... powerful? no... can you make it powerful? hell yes... stroke her to 4.2 or 4.25 (4.3) using either a donor 4.2L truck engine or SuperSix's stroke kit. Then swap to a spilt port intake... port and polish... and you'll probably be happy with the power output
anyways, yeah whatever i can do to my v6 to make it fast, which would be cheaper, also, there is nothing better than getting your ass beat in a gt by a v6, so yeah will you help me then? i would like to fix it up, and just to let SOME people know, i got 17x9" cobra r rims, and new exhaust with new headlights, so mine looks better than yours 100th96cobra...
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congrats on upgrading to lights that my car came stock with, and i have 18X11 rear wheels....so now your 17X9s arent that big are they? regardless your car looks nice man
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anyways, yeah whatever i can do to my v6 to make it fast, which would be cheaper, also, there is nothing better than getting your ass beat in a gt by a v6, so yeah will you help me then? i would like to fix it up, and just to let SOME people know, i got 17x9" cobra r rims, and new exhaust with new headlights, so mine looks better than yours 100th96cobra...
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congrats on upgrading to lights that my car came stock with, and i have 18X11 rear wheels....so now your 17X9s arent that big are they? regardless your car looks nice man
why hate so much? And what in the hell is the big deal about having stock "rims?" Could someone please inform me about how buying a car is suppose to be solely on what the tires go around?
Anyway... I'm sure that he really could care less about what you have or how you felt when you had a v6, or much less about whats stock on a 1996 cobra that he had to "modify" to get.
And as a final note... a mustang is a mustang... regaurdless of the engine in the bay... modified or not, a mustang is still the symbol of this board.
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theres no hate man...much love to my lil v6 brothers...although he said his car looked better than myne. dont know why he had the need to say that. so i replied.
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theres no hate man...much love to my lil v6 brothers...although he said his car looked better than myne. dont know why he had the need to say that. so i replied.
I think he said that because you said "I just think v6 mustangs look like ****" The truth is, I think all 99+ V6 mustangs look much better than your model year, just my opinion.
ide agree...a 99 up v6 looks better thany any pre 99 v6. but sayin any v6 looks better than a cobra....but it doesnt matter everyone has their preferences
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One other note. There has been a big demand for V6 parts lately. GT's are putting on V6 rear bumpers and dumping exhaust behind the mufflers. Another part are the 03 V6 hoods is a 2k Cobra hood and people are requesting them. My mustang speed shop guy said people are paying more for 03 V6 pull off hoods than for after market hoods. V6 guys are putting GT side scoops on and the guys that sell them are selling back V6 side scoops to the Cobra guys, LOL. I haven't figured that one out yet.
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One other note. There has been a big demand for V6 parts lately. GT's are putting on V6 rear bumpers and dumping exhaust behind the mufflers. Another part are the 03 V6 hoods is a 2k Cobra hood and people are requesting them. My mustang speed shop guy said people are paying more for 03 V6 pull off hoods than for after market hoods. V6 guys are putting GT side scoops on and the guys that sell them are selling back V6 side scoops to the Cobra guys, LOL. I haven't figured that one out yet.
its all preference... I've got a mach 1 chin spoiler on the way for my car... Everyone likes what they like. I'm keeping my rear cover... because I'm doing side exhaust... in my opinion... side exhaust looks better when there isn't two holes on the rear cover where the tips were suppose to go.
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One other note. There has been a big demand for V6 parts lately. GT's are putting on V6 rear bumpers and dumping exhaust behind the mufflers. Another part are the 03 V6 hoods is a 2k Cobra hood and people are requesting them. My mustang speed shop guy said people are paying more for 03 V6 pull off hoods than for after market hoods. V6 guys are putting GT side scoops on and the guys that sell them are selling back V6 side scoops to the Cobra guys, LOL. I haven't figured that one out yet.
its all preference... I've got a mach 1 chin spoiler on the way for my car... Everyone likes what they like. I'm keeping my rear cover... because I'm doing side exhaust... in my opinion... side exhaust looks better when there isn't two holes on the rear cover where the tips were suppose to go.
I agree. I think thats why there is a demand for V6 rear bumpers. Which side exhaust are you going with? I'm thinking about it my self.
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Do it before me so I can see if I like it, lol. Headers and high flow cats give a meaner sound too, plus hp's. We put long tubes on the 99 we built with dumps after the mufs, very loud, but clean. But that V6 also had a pro charger and ported heads, intakes and a cam.
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Again, missing the point. a BUILT V6 is a rare thing. The 99 V6 street legal daily driver we built a couple years ago was at 385 RWHP and 800 lbs less weight that a stock GT. To reiterate...People appreciate a built car that is going against the odds. It show passion, ingenuity, skill and imagination. To put a couple bolt ons a GT and floor it around town is the same as every other guy doing the same. In 99, we had to custome make most of the shyt we did, but now there are alot of High performance V6 companies and it has become much easier. We will see 10 second street legal V6's this year. Of coarse they are Turbo and all forged and aluminum, but that is where it starts. The V6's were winning alot of the mustang events last year because of thier unique qualities.
This is not a statement to prove anything to the V8 guys, but it is a testament to the V6 enthusiasts to carry on and just nod and smile.
BS. There is no ****ing way a N/A 6 put out that much power and was anywhere near close to street driveable. And exactly where did you save 800 pounds? The entire 4.6 v8 doesnt wiegh 800 pounds. In other words, it wieghed less because you gutted it? Which is the same thing you can do on a GT.
Here is a website for a 6 with bolt ons. www.rpmoutlet.com About 2500-3k spent here with tires, and we are pulling a mighty 14.47@90MPH. WHOO HOO!!! For the same price, coulda bought a used 99 GT with about 30k on it, still been faster, and looked better too.
Neo: Your saying you can beat a stock GT? The car on the website above is putting out MORE hp (though slightly less Tq) that is dyno proven. And still isnt anywhere near beating a stock GT. I know that .47 doesnt seem like alot, but that is a TON of car-lenghts in a street race. Handling wise, you might have an advantage of MAX 300 or so pounds. Engines dont wiegh THAT much. My friend and I picked up and moved a 78 350 with everything but a carb on it by ourselves, with engine stand attached. Cant tell me a 6 wieghs that much less than a GT to make up for a softer suspesion, and smaller tire footprint.
BTW when 100th96cobra was mentioning it was gay to swap, and talked about having 6 suspesion still, you realise this means you have to change all of it too to make it even on the same level as a GT right? AKA, after the swap, you STILL have a ****tyer rear end, a T5 instead of an improved T45, and the suspesion will be killing you every launch.
In other words, you will have a car that is STILL slower than a GT. Your gonna spend close to 3k on engine alone if its new. Add another 1500 for trans (unless you wanna risk it and stay with the stock 6 T5 (theres a reason they come with T45 now) , maybe 800 for a new rear end, and then god knows how much on suspesion. This isnt even counting the computer and wiring harnesses, or all of the intake/exaust stuff.
Do do it properly, your looking at 6-8K to be ONLY AS FAST as a STOCK GT.
What again was the point?
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WOW nobody answered this guy's question........3.8 to 4.6 swap you need a complete 4.6 motor and the wiring harness has to be switched for the 4.6 and the ECU also you are going to need a tranny that fits the T3650, T56 (newer models) even though the older ones will fit fine and the motor should swap right in to the 3.8 motor mounts
Genral labor will be about 1500 It can be done for 3000 or so
V6 are only fast if highly modified and when they are they are unreliable for daily driving
i'm new to the mustang world, i used to run with imports and i figured i'd step on the other side of the fence, my bro had an03 cobra which was bad ass, power and sound wise i liked it, i got rid of my 03 celica gts ayear ago which ran mid 13's with about 1k in parts, anyways to the point, i just bought a 01 v6 mustang, used of course with some minor problems, but overall i like it alot more than my celica, i guess from the muscle background it has, but to comment on what was said about v6's looks like s*** eh have you any idea that pretty much all the mustangs from those year ranges look the same, maybe some minor body specs and just about what 60 more horses than the v6 maybe 70, not sure, haven't had time to do my homework on it, yea it would be easier to buy a GT or SVT but my bro payed around 600 a month on the note and the same on the insurance, while you gt and svt guys are payin out your asses on insurance i'll be putting my saved money on parts, and if i had either of those models i definately wouldn't keep the stock body, no stock car looks good to me, i'd slap a body kit on it and change the whole interior out to custom, like other guys above said, it feels alot better to fix up a 6 and run over v8's, and it doesn't cost no 6-8k to make it run quick, the site you get info from must suck, unless you wanna slap a supercharger or turbo on it, which would be the last thing i'd do, and i've seen 3 k put into some imports and they'll take a cobra or gt any day, and they have track times to prove it, so dont underestimate 4's or 6's, as far as swapping the engine it will be expensive of course, to swap any engine is expensive, the labor is almost as much as the engine, my stang with a cracked exhaust manifold and 5th gear syncs goin out ..& bad cats, i will stick take a stock camaro v6 and the v6 stang is a lil less than a quarter of a second faster, i love to see all these v8s get thiers handed to them by 6s or 4s, theres more devotion to thier game since they had to put time and effort into becoming that fast, instead going out blowing thier life savings on a cobra and puttin maybe some exhaust and some nice wheels on, seriously, my celica ran like high 14s stock maybe low 15s, and if i would have slapped on a turbo kit i would have easily ran 12s and ate most v8s hell a z06 runs like 11.8... .. anything lower than that i'd be illegal, i want a daily driver thats legit to street run, you guys want a drag car then go for it, i like to impress the world not a few people in some stands at a track race, . sorry if its a long post but i like to make a big entrance, and i'm not hatin on gts or svts.. i dont care what you drive but whatever you drive bring your fkin a game and run um, if you win . good.. if you lose .. build up and try again, and even if you put 6k into a v6 stang its still overall cheaper than a gt... v6 = 4-6 k.... gt pretty much 10k and up ...unless you want a crappy one with high miles and prolems out the azz.. then you'll end up making an engine swap yourself.. i just hate sht talkers cause you never bring your game... you just post a bunch of sht without even thinkin about it... anyways if anyone has any info on restoring my 2001 mustang v6 3.8l 252.. go for it.. i'm all ears or in this case eyes... i wanna totally restore it.. since the last owner disrespected it.. that should show you not to let a 16 year old have a car like this... his mom shoulda bought him a pinto or somthing... anyways thnx - Jd
I think its kinda funny watchin these V6 and V8 guys kick each other in the balls... Next they're gonna break out the 'your mom' jokes.... anyways, I just checked out this thread cuz I was wondering what all parts it takes to swap a 6er to V8 too. And I was wondering if anyone has ever thrown an old school carbed v8 into like an 04 v6 car. I was just wondering cuz I can throw together a 408w or 347 stroker pretty cheap and just wondering if its ever been done...
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Again, missing the point. a BUILT V6 is a rare thing. The 99 V6 street legal daily driver we built a couple years ago was at 385 RWHP and 800 lbs less weight that a stock GT. To reiterate...People appreciate a built car that is going against the odds. It show passion, ingenuity, skill and imagination. To put a couple bolt ons a GT and floor it around town is the same as every other guy doing the same. In 99, we had to custome make most of the shyt we did, but now there are alot of High performance V6 companies and it has become much easier. We will see 10 second street legal V6's this year. Of coarse they are Turbo and all forged and aluminum, but that is where it starts. The V6's were winning alot of the mustang events last year because of thier unique qualities.
This is not a statement to prove anything to the V8 guys, but it is a testament to the V6 enthusiasts to carry on and just nod and smile.
BS. There is no ****ing way a N/A 6 put out that much power and was anywhere near close to street driveable. And exactly where did you save 800 pounds? The entire 4.6 v8 doesnt wiegh 800 pounds. In other words, it wieghed less because you gutted it? Which is the same thing you can do on a GT.
Here is a website for a 6 with bolt ons. www.rpmoutlet.com About 2500-3k spent here with tires, and we are pulling a mighty 14.47@90MPH. WHOO HOO!!! For the same price, coulda bought a used 99 GT with about 30k on it, still been faster, and looked better too.
Neo: Your saying you can beat a stock GT? The car on the website above is putting out MORE hp (though slightly less Tq) that is dyno proven. And still isnt anywhere near beating a stock GT. I know that .47 doesnt seem like alot, but that is a TON of car-lenghts in a street race. Handling wise, you might have an advantage of MAX 300 or so pounds. Engines dont wiegh THAT much. My friend and I picked up and moved a 78 350 with everything but a carb on it by ourselves, with engine stand attached. Cant tell me a 6 wieghs that much less than a GT to make up for a softer suspesion, and smaller tire footprint.
BTW when 100th96cobra was mentioning it was gay to swap, and talked about having 6 suspesion still, you realise this means you have to change all of it too to make it even on the same level as a GT right? AKA, after the swap, you STILL have a ****tyer rear end, a T5 instead of an improved T45, and the suspesion will be killing you every launch.
In other words, you will have a car that is STILL slower than a GT. Your gonna spend close to 3k on engine alone if its new. Add another 1500 for trans (unless you wanna risk it and stay with the stock 6 T5 (theres a reason they come with T45 now) , maybe 800 for a new rear end, and then god knows how much on suspesion. This isnt even counting the computer and wiring harnesses, or all of the intake/exaust stuff.
Do do it properly, your looking at 6-8K to be ONLY AS FAST as a STOCK GT.
What again was the point?
I had to log into show how stupid you were. First off gt's don't run 14.0 with an average driver. they run about 14.2-14.5 So that v6 would be running close to a GT with bolt ons!!. A gt is nothing special I hate it when you GT guys come on here and act like you drive a fast car. Mustang GT are SLOW so are V6 but you don't have the right to come on here and act like you got a 500hp beast and talk down to us. A v6 with a turbo or supercharge will come out cheaper then it costs to have a gt. AND you get v6 insurance. And the v6 supercharged will make 300-400hp.
one of my friends is a pro 5.0 guy and he said that putting a 5.0 in a 6er would be alot easier to do because you would not have to change the computer because it is carborated. this is something im not interested in but this is what i here.
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Next they're gonna break out the 'your mom' jokes.... anyways, I just checked out this thread cuz I was wondering what all parts it takes to swap a 6er to V8 too. And I was wondering if anyone has ever thrown an old school carbed v8 into like an 04 v6 car. I was just wondering cuz I can throw together a 408w or 347 stroker pretty cheap and just wondering if its ever been done...
way to bring up a 3 year old thread. lol.
