3.8 to 4.6 swap
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3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/2/2004 6:17:48 PM
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KKozik04
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I have a 98 3.8 V6 engine and I want to put in a 4.6 V8. How hard is it and what do I have to do.
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/2/2004 7:40:24 PM
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Hotrods_n_Booze
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It will honestly cost you around 5K by the time it's running right.
3K in your V6 will make a crazy fast six and it's more fun to smoke a V8 with a six, LOL
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/2/2004 8:17:09 PM
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nomocobra
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it wont take 5k...i did it for under 1k
but i still wouldnt recomend it
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/2/2004 8:19:59 PM
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slegos888
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i agree with hotrods a fast v6 is more fun then a fast v8 u expect a v8 to be fast but a fast v6 is a sleeper!!!!
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/2/2004 8:22:53 PM
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Hotrods_n_Booze
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We just did one in our club about 3 months ago. We had to change everything!!! It was kind of fun though, but alot of work and plus we made it a race motor by the time we were done. That added alot to the cost. IE: ported heads, intakes, cam forged bottom end. We thought it was a good motor when we got it used, but it was a basket case. 
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 2:28:55 AM
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NeoTokyo
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You people really need to donate your engines to me 
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 12:41:32 PM
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Hotrods_n_Booze
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Hey sUbLiMeStAnG, There are alot of great V6 products available these days for your car. I'll give you a couple links at the bottom. We talk about them quite a bit. I built a 99 V6 sprint car with my bro some time ago and I'm just getting started on my 03 V6. Neo is also in the early stages and has tons of info on modding methods from doing reasearch. Our motto here is:
"THERE'S NOTHING SWEETER THAN BEING A GT EATER"
Super Six Motorsports
Moana V6 Racing
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 2:07:13 PM
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NeoTokyo
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Indeed, THERE'S NOTHING SWEETER THAN BEING A GT EATER!!
Although, the GT's have been eating me lately, but thats because my o2 sensors were unhooked, I have them back up and runnin again now so no more free meals to those GT's 
Anything you want to know about modding your V6 just ask and we will be more then happy to help you. But like I said, if you are hard set on a V8, then please donate your V6 to CrainRacing (me) so we can modify it as a single port engine 
Dont listen to anyone that tells you that you cant get big power from a V6. Hell there is a guy here in sac running 11's with a stock bottom end and some bolt ons with a nitrous setup, thats crazy shiznit. Of course I believe this is his 3rd engine, So if your going to play with the big boys then you have to think smart and prepair for the unexpected. Building your bottom end up will prevent you from breaking the engine. From the money that this kid has spent on his 3 engines he could have built 1 STRONG engine that would produce more power with more consitancy and not have to keep replacing it. Appearantly the kid usues his nitrous to pass people in traffic too, so I guess its his own demise. The amount of nitrous he is pumping into the engine would break stock GT's, I think he is running a 350 or 400 shot. But it is possible for several thousand miles of this abuse, rather remarkable. As immature as this kid may seem, he has offered us some pretty valuable information of the breaking point on a stock 94-04 3.8L engine.
You can safely modify your engine and get 300hp out of it and not have to worry, and you dont even need Nitrous or boosted applications. There is a guy over at supersix running something like 425hp or something on a NA non nitrous car with just forged I-beam rods and stock-like forged pistons and stock internals with modified heads and intake and other easy bolt ons.
Anyways i need to head off to work, its kinda sscrewing me up for going to the track today but I can just go Sat or Sun. Oh by the way, a V6 is about 200lbs lighter then the GT and probably 300lbs lighter then the DOHC models, A hard top coupe is about 300lbs lighter then a convertable. So if you plan wisely and buy accordingly you can be as much as 600 or so pounds lighter then the SVT competition.
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 2:26:02 PM
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nomocobra
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there is nothing more gay than a v6 with a v8 in it. its a pain in the ass too. its soooo not worth it. just get a ****ing gt. you will be more happy. with the 6 you will still have the same gay wheels, rear bumper, rear end, suspensions blah blah blah blah
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 3:59:48 PM
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Hotrods_n_Booze
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there is nothing more gay than a v6 with a v8 in it. its a pain in the ass too. its soooo not worth it. just get a ****ing gt. you will be more happy. with the 6 you will still have the same gay wheels, rear bumper, rear end, suspensions blah blah blah blah
Thats the point *hands 100th96cobra a clue*
Well except for the gay part, you thought of that all on your own *hands 100th96cobra a condom* BWAHAHAHA 
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 4:53:34 PM
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nomocobra
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if your going to bash me atleast make it a good one bro
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/3/2004 11:14:22 PM
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Hotrods_n_Booze
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Why in the world would I bash you? Sorry you took it that way. Just having fun.
*hands 100th96cobra a mask hooked up to a bottle of nitrous oxide*  
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/4/2004 12:35:14 AM
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NeoTokyo
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100th96cobra if you have ever looked at my rims there is no way in hell that they are gay, they are stock factory opions too. 15" Chrome pony Rims with Pony caps, far from gay dude, far from it.
Something that isnt gay either is the fact that my V6 will always outhandle any V8 out there with stock suspension like mine, its just cause its lighter and easier to corner. The fact that I beat stock GT's right now with minor mods to my car says a ton.
In my opinion I would buy my car 100 times over before buying a GT, I just like my car a whole lot more, the engine is perfect for me. And unlike the stock GT's that I beat, I get 32mpg on a fresh oil change, new plugs and new air filter.
Dont get my wrong here, I'm not trying to bash the GT's here, they are awesome machines with lots of potential, but I dont want to go that way just yet :) I like the "Individual" and "Original" things that I am doing with my car. Its kinda like breaking ground for a new era.
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Slightly Modded 4.6L / 5.3L ModStroker
RAM King Cobra Super Duty Clutch
White Ext. Charcoal Mach 1 Int.
Mach1 Shaker, badging/Clone
18"x10.5" Y2K Cobra R's
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/4/2004 1:24:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: 100th96cobra
there is nothing more gay than a v6 with a v8 in it. its a pain in the ass too. its soooo not worth it. just get a ****ing gt. you will be more happy. with the 6 you will still have the same gay wheels, rear bumper, rear end, suspensions blah blah blah blah
You just went ahead and proved their point...
V6 with V8=hella fast V6 lookin car at lower V6 insurance costs but with two extra cylinders.
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RE: 3.8 to 4.6 swap - 3/4/2004 1:58:13 PM
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nomocobra
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ORIGINAL: NeoTokyo
100th96cobra if you have ever looked at my rims there is no way in hell that they are gay, they are stock factory opions too. 15" Chrome pony Rims with Pony caps, far from gay dude, far from it.
Something that isnt gay either is the fact that my V6 will always outhandle any V8 out there with stock suspension like mine, its just cause its lighter and easier to corner. The fact that I beat stock GT's right now with minor mods to my car says a ton.
In my opinion I would buy my car 100 times over before buying a GT, I just like my car a whole lot more, the engine is perfect for me. And unlike the stock GT's that I beat, I get 32mpg on a fresh oil change, new plugs and new air filter.
Dont get my wrong here, I'm not trying to bash the GT's here, they are awesome machines with lots of potential, but I dont want to go that way just yet :) I like the "Individual" and "Original" things that I am doing with my car. Its kinda like breaking ground for a new era.
neo dont take it offensively, even tho im sure you will, but 15X7 wheels couldnt be anymore gay. and i dont beleive you beat gt's. no way man. your car doenst weigh that much less. although the cobra with irs is a diff story. it also doenst handle better, gts come with better suspension. and no matter what bolt ons you do, it wont bring you up to 260hp, like your bigger brother. its not gonna happen. and everyone and their mom these days has a 3.8 stang. i was ashamed when i used to have myne. but if a v6 makes you happy, im happy for you man
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