i want to get a SC on my 06 gt. which SC should i get? my dealer suggests roush he suggests they are better and have been around longer. but i have read a few post's that state the opposite?
Well if you want low boost (which put less stress on your engine) go with Saleen. The best are kb,vortech and procharger. But beware your car may or maynot be able to handle to much boost of I have heard and know a guy who blew his engine with a procharger, he was putting 475rwhp when his broke.
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longer how?..jack roush is older......steve saleen made his own s/c right?.... i think your dealer is retupid,cause neither is better to a point...the tune,and the set is what makes one better over the other.
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i want to get a SC on my 06 gt. which SC should i get? my dealer suggests roush he suggests they are better and have been around longer. but i have read a few post's that state the opposite?
Roush racing has been around way longer and is more reliable. The prices are about the same for each supercharger. Roush warrenty is better, comes color coded to match you car. The saleen supercharger says it can "produce more then 400hp" doesnt say RWHP or how much it actually gives. Both are safe. I have over 125,000 miles on the companys car and everything runs fine. because roush is MADE IN AMERICA. Go with the roush, saleen has looks(sporty) but if your just getting a supercharger its roush all the way. Also consider gears. by the way if he did call both companys what do you think there going to say? o yea the other companys products are better? ill put up the newer test tommarow somtime if you want. this is what a roush does to a saleen. i would rather pay less and get more power, then to just pay for the name.(S7) "When you drive a Roush you feel the difference. When you drive a Saleen you just think "This is a pretty car." "
HEAD TO HEAD
Roush Stage 3 Base Price: $37,500 As Tested: $48,975 Horsepower: 360 @ 5250 rpm Torque: 375 @ 3000 rpm Race weight*: 3650 lbs Quarter-mile: 12.831 at 107.36 * With 160-lb. driver
Saleen S281 Supercharged Base Price: $37,399 As Tested: $49,399 Horsepower: 365 @ 6000 rpm Torque: 400 @ 3000 rpm Race weight*: 3770 lbs. Quarter-mile 12.951 at 105.96 * With 160-lb. driver
< Message edited by 04Mach1DD -- 3/28/2006 9:30:20 AM >
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The Saleen supercharger puts out 435hp and 400lbs of torques it is a unique design that is built in house. In Irvine, CALIFORNIA. I apologize that we have not updated our website yet to show those figures.
Talk about reliability? "ROUSH Performance was established in 1995, with the development of a manifold package and tool kit introduced at that year's SEMA show" The first Saleen Vehicle and parts were available in 1984 from engine work, interior work, guages, body effects etc...
Both are safe. Im sure. Both are 5,699 msrp. As far as the looks go of the supercharger that is personal preference of the consumer.
If anyone lives in Southern California feel free to get in touch with me and i'll personally show you are facility and you can see where and how the cars and the super chargers are built.
As far as your "pretty car" comment ... Thanks for the compliment on the looks of our vehicles. There is actually more to them but thats a different story... Dont forget that Roush also does body modifications to their vehicles i would hope that your customers would think theyre roush vehicles were also "pretty" instead of just the Saleens.
Your Head to Head specs are reflected time differences by the respect of the difference of weight of the vehicles by 120lbs and driver abilities
hmmm sound like you just copyed that right from the roush website. So just how much HP does JUST THE SUPERCHARGER add? Exaltly? The Roush company has been around mid 70's. They didnt start MASS PRODUCING there parts untill late 94-95. Also tell me this, if Roush is at all unreliable then howcome Ford Dealerships sell only Roush performance products and not saleen? However i must say, the saleen is more clean then the Roush. He is looking for more HP and torqe
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I said nothing negative about Roush as far as reliability, you made a suggestions that reliability was based on how long the company had been around. And yes i did copy the excerpt from the Roush website. It says right it in plain writing when Roush Performance was established in 1995, i did not read the fine print about mass production, sorry.
The reason you can find Roush parts at Ford dealers is because Roush is considered a tuner.
While in comparison Saleen is small volume vehicle Manufacturer (built in not bolt-on) , each vehicle meets all governmnet regulations and is EPA certified. Each vehicle is uniquely designed and sold through selected delearships.
Be understanding of the fact that our aftermarket division sells parts to Saleen and Mustang enthusiasts. in the late 80's it was the company's decision to keep the parts department in-house. Brings better understading to "POWER IN THE HANDS OF A FEW".
In 1995 Saleen had sold cars to Ken Griffey Jr and George Forman both with Saleen designed vortech superchargers and built a total of 139 s351's and six SR models built to competition specs with 580hp, that were actually being raced around the country by Tim Allen, Bob Bondurant and Steve Saleen himself as a team.
Although a stage III Roush and a S281sc are pretty similar, one area they are not is in the blower. Roush is still using a roots blower on their stage III setup. The roots blower they use needs to push more psi than the Saleen series 6 unit, which adds to the Roush's heat buildup and lack of efficiency vs. the Saleen series 6 blower. The diffence is considerable, enough that if I was undecided between the 2, I would default to the S281sc. I'll be perfectly honest; not to flame on Roush, but their lack of a twin screw unit in their new cars shows that they are $ conscious and not performance consious. On top of that, the hp curve with the Roush blower is considerably flatter on top, compared to the Saleen's. Shame on Roush for using old, inefficient technology in the cars.(birdieman4)
Go with the Saleen supercharger. Better technology which = higher horsepower with lower boost. it's safe, reliable and much more efficient. And it's built in the USA with very good support from Saleen.
That's coming from a Roush fan not a Roush or Saleen employee.
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Let's not forget. Roush is in good with Ford. Don't they develop some OE stuff? Either way, they worked with Ford on their supercharger. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel when it came to the computer aspect of their supercharger kit.
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Let's not forget. Roush is in good with Ford. Don't they develop some OE stuff? Either way, they worked with Ford on their supercharger. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel when it came to the computer aspect of their supercharger kit.
Auto manufacturers have a vested interest in using roots type blowers - fewer moving parts which translate into more predictable reliability, which by extension means lower maintenance costs. Because roots blowers do not make internal compression they will never have the potential of twin screws or centrifugals. Roots blowers have the poorest adibiatic efficiency of the three types because of leakage blow back through the input shaft. The upside (besides maintenance and reliability costs) is that roots blowers make boost almost immediately and are at full boost often at 1800 to 2000 rpm. Roush, of course, will pick up the remainder of your 3/36 driveline warranty which is a big consideration for a lot of folks. So after all is said and done it seems to me to come right down to personal preference.
IMO, I'd love to have a Roush for the pros stated above but the group buy price for the Saleen is way too good to pass up so I've already contacted Haney Motorsports to put my name on the list. No reason to go into the pros of the twin screw because I think most people will agree that the current technology and potential for upgrading your car does not favor roots type blowers.
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