hotrodman
02-25-2004, 12:08 AM
im car 495,,,83gt 351w all motor
local://upfiles/3882/Bz784150678.jpg
local://upfiles/3882/Bz784150678.jpg
|
View Full Version : hot rod man all motor time slip...351w hotrodman 02-25-2004, 12:08 AM im car 495,,,83gt 351w all motor local://upfiles/3882/Bz784150678.jpg WNDSOR 02-25-2004, 05:20 PM auto or stick? what kind of carb and gears are you running hotrod, with a auto, 600dp, and 3.73's you beat me 4 tenths in the 1/8th, but by 8 tenths in the 1/4. like to know what to do to pull out some elevens vfast 02-25-2004, 06:29 PM sure;) WNDSOR 02-27-2004, 11:19 AM sure? i'll show you a time slip vfast if u want lol hotrodman 02-27-2004, 12:49 PM i got it on video ,,but a need a video set up on the back of my computer,,..that a 351w .060 over,,10,7 to 1 compression ,kb pistons buy the way heavy,,stock rods ,,crank,,cam is a cam motion 246/256//,.580/.603 lift soild roller ,`1.6 rockers ,,edel rpm heads not touched,,2.02/1.60 vavles,,just but roller springs on it,,hp 750 holley carb ,,with victor jr intake msd6a box, with msd dist,,headman headers 1/3/4,,.3.5 in collectors,,flows under rear end 3,73s gears ,31 spline moser axles ,,still got c cilps,,runing mallory 140 elect, pump..had a time slip with the juice but my scanner was freaking out will try again later,,,,with m/t street ets.28x12.5 x15,,i got lt, weight ft k member coil overs in ft,, s/s bars in rear hd s/s/toque boxes.8 pt roll bar ..it ran 11,14 /124 .with the nos had to shut down on top end got squrrly on the top ,,had 9 psi in tires on that run ,,no nos run i had 12.psi,,,sorry that was with a std trans tko ,blow proof bellhoiusing ,,center force dual friction clutch..any thing else pm me like to talk to you,,,,,,,that was launching at 6000 mpms,,shifting at 7800 rpms,,crossed in 3 gear.. but with juice ,i was in 4 th gear and had more ,,just got my new motor in ,,got good rods srp pistons 11,to1 compression ,,1.72 rockers ,,victor jr, heads with $1000.00 port job ,,2.05/1.60.vavles with 1.72 rockers i got ,626/.648 lift now with same cam ,,got canton oil pan hoping to go 9.99 i will be happy ,, local://upfiles/3882/Ec880033857.jpg WNDSOR 02-27-2004, 06:32 PM well you definately have a some more beef than me, i just think mine has a lot more potential like it is, better than 12.50 at least. 600dp, victor jr intake, racing head service prepped heads(ky)(1.90/1.60, comp springs, manley valves, comp magnum 1.6 rockers, shaved), decked, .030 bore, lined honed, fully prepped block, stock rods, stock crank, keith black hyper-pistons(ashtrays) 9.1 to 1, rotating assem. balanced, mac 1 3/4 long tubes, crane hi6 box, c4 with 9" 4500 stall, 3.73's. pretty much stock suspension, have sub frames, strut tower, upper and lower lakewood control arms, 4 point cage. what do you see right off that could be some major help. run a holley red pump/mallory reg. still have clutch fan and fan assembly. thanks hotrodman 02-27-2004, 09:35 PM well my motor has a little more compression,,cam,,heads,,..what kind for suspension do you have ,,is it set up for race,,,let me know more ,,,what are you runing now??? hotrodman 02-28-2004, 01:55 PM can still run super unleaded ,,with no problems, i just use a mix when on the street so if i have to hit the jucie i will have octane ,when i go to track i run the best 117 octane,,:D WNDSOR 03-01-2004, 12:50 PM suspension is basically stock, stock struts/shocks, no front sway bar, rear has aftermarket control arms, subframes thats about it. cam is a edelbrock rpm with is .496/.520 lift. i can run 92 no problem, but i do run better gas at the track WNDSOR 03-01-2004, 12:53 PM run a 7.95 8th/ 12.50 1/4 @ 107 1.70 60fts hotrodman 03-01-2004, 01:54 PM going to run my new motor wed,night if it dont rain ,,but it \s going to i think ,,ill have to wait and see ,,,,you 60 ft time aint all that bad so you must be hooking ,,you need to change that cam its killing you ,,what kind of heads to you have agian ,to cant go back to the top right now ,,,,you got dished pistions??????or flat tops???need little more compression also ...???i think you are loseing out on top end ,,also need bigger carb,,let me know ,,you seen my nos tims slips ,in the same section??? WNDSOR 03-01-2004, 02:01 PM yeah it hooks good, will spin the tire on rim after a few runs, have dished pistons, not looking to go into motor except for cam, and have cast heads. been ported, 1.90/1.60 valves. 1.6 rockers. i think a lot of it like you said is the cam and carb, top end i seem to lean out WNDSOR 03-01-2004, 02:03 PM i'd like to go nos, but dont have the pistons (sucks), might do a 75 or 100 shot, should be safe. i'm trying to get in the elevens on motor first. hotrodman 03-01-2004, 02:12 PM you got kbs that what i had on that motor with the time slips no problem at all with 150 shot ,,i was running one fuel pump at the time also ,,mallory 140 ,going to carb,and nos plate,,your heads are stock heads??? ported ????tell me more about them??? red347 03-05-2004, 04:50 AM Can I suggest a good plate system? I highly recommend the Wilson Manifolds Pro Flow system. It costs a bit more, but one problem it seems to have solved for me was going lean (not a lot) on the number one and number 8, those with the longest runners in the intake (Super Victor). 88 spray holes in SS spray bars, excellent distribution and no copper corrosion to worry about. They are angle drilled and aimed directly into the runners, close to a fogger system. Wilson also prepped my intake, so that all runners flow within 1/2 %. Really a nice job by Wilson's on the manifold. Ron hotrodman 03-05-2004, 12:42 PM ORIGINAL: WNDSOR yeah it hooks good, will spin the tire on rim after a few runs, have dished pistons, not looking to go into motor except for cam, and have cast heads. been ported, 1.90/1.60 valves. 1.6 rockers. i think a lot of it like you said is the cam and carb, top end i seem to lean out i dont think your leaning out your motor running out of steam,,,do to small cam,, also limits cam for the tlow compression you have ,,i would sugguest i nos system,,with lower compression you can run more juice,,, WNDSOR 03-05-2004, 01:04 PM ok, i've been running a 1" spacer plate between the carb and intake, have anything do with it? small carb with big intake and spacer. thats lots of air space to take car of red347 03-05-2004, 01:16 PM If your'r running out of "oomph" at the top end, sounds to me like you are running out of fuel, not air. What does your fuel delivery sysytem look like? WNDSOR 03-05-2004, 01:42 PM old holley red, probably specs of the blue now, stock fuel lines, stock tank, 600dp, mallory reg. - 6pd pressure WNDSOR 03-05-2004, 01:44 PM 1 up on the jets in the secondaries, straight shot nozzles red347 03-05-2004, 01:59 PM With the kind of power you are making that might be the problem. You could try a cheap upgrade on the pump. Moroso makes an aftermarket fuel pump spring: Part Number: 65770 that brings the pump pressure from 12 to 19 pounds and increases overall flow. I think the price is about $7.50. One other thing to look at is the wiring to the pump. Are you running the pump through a relay? If the gauge is not big enough, and it is a long run, the pump will run slower and not deliver the fuel needed. I had that problem for a when the battery kept going down between rounds. Took me a while to figure out why the car kept going slower as the day went on... As the car is moving forward it wants to push the fuel back, so you need good pressre and volume. Just a thought... hotrodman 03-05-2004, 02:53 PM tthats correct also pulling a g or 1,5 gs will lose pressure to the reg a couple of pounds ,,bg 400s are the **** dude ,,the money they cost its worth it ,,more motors are blowed up due to lack of fuel ,,cant skimp there,, WNDSOR 03-05-2004, 03:30 PM bg 400's? pumps - yeah it does need to be re-done, but looking at the specs on the pump you would think that it would be fine hotrodman 03-05-2004, 03:56 PM im running the mallory 140 dose just fine ,,got holley blue pump just for my nos ,,but my tannk to carb line is 3/8 in..line made new pickup tube out of 3/8 brake tubing it past houses ,,the stock line i have ruuning on the holley blue to the nos plate,,i dont like the holley red pumps...the blue arent really enoght either for carb,,thats why i got the mall 140.. the bgs are bad i seen them flow a gallon of gas in less than 10 seconds were my 140 pump is flowing a gallon in 28 secounds..holley blue in 45 secounds ,, red347 03-05-2004, 05:01 PM Listen to hotrodman...BG400 is the way to go. I run BG400 for both sides. N2O and carb. off the same pump. When you look at the specs on pumps, you are looking at free flow. Things change when it is in the car. I had a Holley Blue for my N2O side a few years ago. It went "belly up" and I lost the motor. One positive comment on Holley..they chipped in some $$$ when I proved it was their pump. Ron hotrodman 03-05-2004, 05:09 PM yes indeed 1 pump for both just run big ass lines ..hey man do you spray it out the gate???[&:]your 60 ft times are great red347 03-05-2004, 05:19 PM Yep. Spray out of the gate. I have a transbrake and an RTD box. I stage the car, push the T/B button. It pulls 12V away from the solenoids. I purge the system with my left thumb, hold the T/B with the right thumb. I wait for the other guys stage light to come on, and plant my foot to the floor. It brings it up to 5200 RPM on a rev limiter. I release the button on the top yellow, and the RTD box counts it down. When the T/B releases, it puts 12V back on the soleniods and N2O is flowing. It flashes to 5800 RPM, shifts at 7800 RPM on a Shifnoid. Ron hotrodman 03-05-2004, 05:28 PM what size tire you got ???my 60 fts are 1.63 with my old tires mt ets with cords showing ,,to run a 9,99 what do my 60 fts need to be??? red347 03-06-2004, 02:36 AM I run 10.5 x 28 x 15 MT slicks, about 10 pounds of pressure, with rim screws. Looking back over my time slips your 60 foot would have to be a low, low 1.40 or quicker. Ron Hee is one of the slips..car 373..that was a really good race BTW. Good reaction times and door to door all the way. http://www.rfedd.bigstep.com/woodburnsept2002.jpg hotrodman 03-06-2004, 05:33 AM now thats fast ..thanks for the time slip.. GSXRIntensity 03-06-2004, 04:31 PM Hotrodman...those are some awesome mods, & times! Now, I see why you don't need 4.10's, but MAN...you are 1 of the few car guys in here w/their cars pumpin out numbers like that! Congrats on the times, & I'm sure you'll hit your goal. hotrodman 03-06-2004, 08:04 PM ORIGINAL: GSXRIntensity Hotrodman...those are some awesome mods, & times! Now, I see why you don't need 4.10's, but MAN...you are 1 of the few car guys in here w/their cars pumpin out numbers like that! Congrats on the times, & I'm sure you'll hit your goal. thanks GSXR IM GOING FOR THE GLORY FIRST TIME OUT,,IM NOT A WAITING PERSON,,WILL GET TIMES SLIPS AND VIDEO..HOWS THAT ,,I GOT SOME OLD VID FROM THAT TIME SLIP ,,BUT NEED VIDEO CABLE SOMETHING FOR MY COMPUTER,,IT DON;T HAVE OR SOMETHING.. LET YOU KNOW ,,AS SOON AS I KNOW :D |